Damage Control Propaganda: Agencies tamp down speculation over hollow-point ammo purchases

Uh huh if you say so.  What about the other 1+ billion rounds?

FOX News  Obscure federal agencies triggered a firestorm of conspiracy theories this week after they put out orders for thousands of rounds of deadly hollow-point bullets.

But the agencies, most recently the Social Security Administration, are trying to put a damper on the speculation — noting the ammunition is “standard issue” and simply used for mandatory federal training sessions.

“Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately,” said a message on the official blog for Social Security’s inspector general office explaining the purchases.

The bullet purchases drew widespread attention as the website Infowars.com published several stories on them that were linked off the widely read Drudge Report and other sites. Infowars.com catalogued a string of recent purchases — first by the Department of Homeland Security, then by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and then the Social Security Administration.

The Social Security Administration solicitation, posted Aug. 7, called for 174,000 rounds of “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition.”

Infowars.com speculated that the purchases were being made in preparation for “civil unrest,” imagining a scenario of economic collapse where seniors could cause “disorder” if denied their Social Security benefits.

But the Social Security Administration statement, posted Thursday, noted that their agents need firearms and ammo in the course of training, investigations and responding to threats against offices and employees.

“As we said in a recent post, our office has criminal investigators, or special agents, who are responsible for investigating violations of the laws that govern SSA’s programs,” the office said.

The agency said it has 295 special agents across 66 offices in the country. “These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests,” the statement said.

As for concern about the type of bullets — hollow points, which expand upon impact — the statement said the type is “standard issue” and is used during “mandatory quarterly firearms qualifications and other training sessions.”

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA, found itself scrambling to respond to a similar report this week about an order for 46,000 rounds of ammo. Though the agency initially indicated it was for the National Weather Service — leading to questions about why the National Weather Service could possibly need so many bullets — a spokesman clarified the bullets are actually meant for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement. A “clerical error” resulted in the order saying the ammo was for the weather service.

Spokesman Scott Smullen said the error’s been fixed in the bidding system. He, too, said the ammo is “standard issue” and will be used by 63 enforcement personnel at NOAA during qualifications and training sessions.

“NOAA officers and agents enforce the nation’s ocean and fishing laws to ensure a level playing field for fishermen and to protect marine species like whales, dolphins and turtles,” he said.

According to NOAA, the specialized agents are supposed to have 200 rounds in their “duty bag,” and qualification and training requires another 500-600 rounds per agent.

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17 Responses to Damage Control Propaganda: Agencies tamp down speculation over hollow-point ammo purchases

  1. REDHORSE says:

    When i first saw this i thought they were going to say that they bought 174,000 snap caps for training due to the one in the picture.

  2. Tattau says:

    Bull Shit!!! Hollow point bullet are NEVER used for “training” and “practice.”

    • beijingyank says:

      Right on! Complete BS!

      The government is rogue and the country is under occupation by a gang of criminals from both sides of the aisle.

      The current administration is busted sending guns and hand grenades to Mexican drug lords to demonize the 2d Amendment. If they can do that, and they did, they can do anything…

      Training? BS…it has the same aroma as Whitman’s 911 comment, “The air is safe to breath and water is safe to drink.”

      I don’t believe anything this government says. And the propaganda press is in collusion with these criminals. When the Patriots take power, and they will eventually, you can kiss the license renewal on the Lame Stream/Sewer Stream Media goodbye.

  3. joel715 says:

    Training with hollow points, humm thats some expensive training.

  4. Duane says:

    Hollow Points are a direct violation of the Geneva Conventions and all other moral and ethical codes. HP is being chosen because CIVILIANS will not have body armor. HP is LESS effective against body armor. FMJ is the ONLY legal and ethical round …….. but it IS effective against body armor.

  5. robertsgt40 says:

    Anybody but me not buying this BS. I’m on SS. Stop my check, I’ll be in for a discussion

  6. #1 NWO Hatr says:

    “But the agencies, most recently the Social Security Administration, are trying to put a damper on the speculation — noting the ammunition is “standard issue” and simply used for mandatory federal training sessions.”

    “As for concern about the type of bullets — hollow points, which expand upon impact — the statement said the type is “standard issue” and is used during “mandatory quarterly firearms qualifications and other training sessions.”

    What a freaking crock!!! Anyone who believes THIS B.S. deserves what’s coming.
    I just checked a box, and it CLEARLY states ‘TRAINING AMMUNITION’ on
    it. How can ANYONE be GULLIBLE enough to believe they need HOLLOW POINTS for TRAINING???

    As for this information coming from A.J., I have to believe they want it known, in a pitiful attempt to instill fear in resistors.

    All the more eventually lying around to be picked up and used against them, I say!

  7. knackers says:

    wad cutter’s are the norm for target practice

  8. Strayhorse says:

    When American citizens start ordering and buying hundreds of thousands of rounds of speciality ammunition, I CAN GUARANTEE you will become a person of interest; yet government agencies due so without consideration – WHY – because soon their will be a complete ban on any further ammunitions purchases by American citizens, and the only way to insure no further sales is to ban sales too……………..

    • Angel-NYC says:

      True.
      We all know it’s coming. We need to save our casings and learn to reload them. (old skill that we need to utilize)

      • diggerdan says:

        That`s right Angel ,but if they pull all the ammo or restrict how much ammo we can have or who can have ammo we will still need the powder to use with the reloader and if they restrict the ammo I am sure they will also outlaw the gun powder . I would think wouldn`t you. Just a thought. Not to mention the primers and the bullets to use with the reloader.

        • Henry Shivley says:

          Gun powder is actually quite easy to make and the components are everywhere: charcoal, sulfur, and salt peter. The fact is, among gun enthusiasts, making the cases, the primers, the powder, and the bullets, is quite common. Remember, we are Americans and as for the high technology and firearm perfection, we invented the shit.

  9. #1 NWO Hatr says:

    Or stock up plenty while the stocking’s still good.

  10. oldvet says:

    They obviously think “all” americans are fools! Now some limp-wrists and a few soccer moms may be fooled by their statements…..but hey!

    They are asking for a Bad Dayum Day and By-God they are fixing to have one!

  11. Victor says:

    My wife and I had a heated discussion on guns via Skype few days ago. She is in Ukraine now. For some countries the strict gun law is a must otherwise it will be inevitable civil unrest with shooting all corrupt bureaucrats and party officials.

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