Is Government Readying For A Shooting War Against Gun Owners?

Is Government Readying For A Shooting War Against Gun Owners?Personal Liberty – by Bob Livingston

Gun grabbing lawmakers at both the State and Federal level continue to push forward with their anti-American, anti-2nd Amendment, anti-gun agendas, even as more individuals, State legislatures and manufacturers of weapons, weapons accessories and ammunition push back. It almost seems as if the elected class is itching for a fight.

And when one considers that the Department of Homeland Security has contracted for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition — much of it hollow points or for use in sniper rifles — for its 55,000 armed agents, plus 2,717 armored personnel carriers and 7,000 select fire “personal defense weapons,” it seems even more apparent that’s the goal. For perspective, 1.6 billion rounds is enough to fight the Iraq war for 20 years. It’s enough to shoot every American five times. It’s 28,000 tons, or the equivalent of three guided missile destroyers. It’s almost 30,000 target practice rounds per armed agent — but of course, because they are more expensive, hollow points are not used for target practice.  

These purchases have long concerned many of those who pay attention. But only the alternative media talked about it — to derision and catcalls — until Feb. 15. That’s when The Denver Post ran an article by The Associated Press about the purchases. That prompted a column by Ralph Benko at in which he said it’s time for a national conversation about the purchases.

More than that, it’s time for a national conversation on the link between the purchases and the ongoing push by the elected class to collapse the economy and pass legislation against the will of the people.

Recall that Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), speaking for the state, informed us that, “One of the definitions of a nation state is that the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence. And the state ought to have a monopoly on legitimate violence.”

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban bill passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday on a partisan 10-8 vote. The bill’s primary sponsor, Senator Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) — who has said she’d like to see all guns removed from the hands of Americans — knows “the road is uphill” for the legislation’s passage. If that’s the case, then why pass it if not just to poke in the eye a significant portion of the American population already upset over the anti-gun rhetoric and attacks on lawful gun owners by the gun grabbers?

But while the ban on so-called “assault weapons”  is more than likely to fail, it’s not unlikely that Republicans who want to go along to get along will glom on to legislation requiring universal background checks, which passed out of the Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. Universal background checks are the camel’s nose under the tent. As former Attorney General Janet Reno said in 1993 during discussions of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban (AWB): “Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.” Remember that the elites are content with incremental steps that I call gradualism.

Remember also that gun control is not a partisan issue, although it appears so now and conventional wisdom says so. Prominent Republicans (including much of the field for the last GOP Presidential nomination), in a bid to appear “reasonable” to the establishment crowd, have supported various measures that restricted gun ownership. The last GOP standard-bearer, Mitt Romney, said he would have signed the 1994 AWB if it came to his desk. If he were President today, a gun bill would be more than likely to pass because he would provide cover for statist Republicans to go along with a gun ban — as George W. Bush provided cover for Republicans to support anti-liberty measures like expanding Medicare and passing No Child Left Behind and other government-growing legislation.

President Richard Nixon, in a taped conversation with aides, said: “I don’t know why any individual should have a right to have a revolver in his house. The kids usually kill themselves with it and so forth.” He asked why “can’t we go after handguns, period? I know the rifle association will be against it, the gun makers will be against it.” But “people should not have handguns.”

Even more insidious — and likely more harmful to gun rights — are the States that are passing anti-gun measures against the will of the people. New York rammed through legislation banning weapons and large-capacity magazines, violating its own procedures in the process. Since then, 52 of New York’s 62 counties have introduced legislation calling for the repeal of the New York State Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act. The legislation has passed in 40 of them. Colorado has passed bans on magazine capacity, and a bill that would require background checks is close to passage. Governor John Hickenlooper has said he will sign the bills despite threats by gun supply manufacturers to pull out of the State if he does.

Sheriffs, other law enforcement agents, some groups and many individuals are vowing to resist gun-confiscation efforts. Twenty-eight States have introduced or passed bills to preserve the 2nd Amendment. Fourteen have introduced or passed Firearms Freedom Acts.

Manufacturers of guns, gun accessories and ammunition have put their financial health on the line by refusing to sell to State and local governments that pass restrictions on gun ownership by individuals. That list is at 136 and growing.

And the Outdoor Channel, a popular cable channel for outdoors enthusiasts, hunters, fishermen and shooters, has told Colorado it will pull its production out of Colorado if gun control measures are signed into law.

If gun grabbers thought the Sandy Hook shooting would cause Americans to stand passively by and allow their 2nd Amendment rights to be snatched away, they have learned differently. The question now is: How far is government willing to go now that it’s getting push-back?

President John F. Kennedy once said, “Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life.”

It appears those people are stepping up.

24 thoughts on “Is Government Readying For A Shooting War Against Gun Owners?

  1. No, they’re definitely NOT ready for a shooting war, and they know they have no chance of winning one, and that’s why they’re employing endless scare tactics to try and convince people that they ARE ready for one.

    These people live by deception, and that’s the most effective weapon they have in their arsenal. They could have kept their ammo orders secret, but they were “leaked” as a scare tactic. Then there’s all the endless spying news released to convince us we’re all being watched in an attempt to silence people. And there’s the fictitious high-tech weaponry inventions that don’t exist. And the 100,000 box-cars with shackles and guillotines that no one seems to be able to find or photograph. I still think the whole “Brandon Raub” event was a psy-op to silence dissent. Right after 9-11 there was also a story circulating about the FBI visiting someone for expressing doubt in the official story. Now 87% of the population doubts the official story. Then there are the constant numbers games that try to make you feel like you’re all alone, and the only dissenter in America.

    See a pattern here? They do this stuff endlessly. This is what spies do for a living. Ignore what they say, and do a little arithmetic instead. The entire U.S. population is gearing up for war (no, it’s not a small group of “preppers” –it’s the entire nation with the exception of a few idiots), and there’s an endless amount of real evidence that proves it.

    Remember that our “government” consists of a gang of blackmailed pedophiles and sissies who only have a small group of brainwashed thugs to do all their fighting for them, and even their “tough-guy” thugs only attack when they they have a house surrounded and the occupants out-numbered twenty to one. None of them appear all that brave to me, and the fact that they’ll also be outnumbered by about a hundred to one when things kick off is pretty much the end of the story.

    The biggest problem we’ll have in a “shooting war” is finding the enemy, because they’re going to flee to the far corners of the planet as soon as things heat up. They’re not stupid enough to stick around for the fight, but they’ll employ every propaganda technique available to hold on to their power as long as possible. This fight will be over shortly after starts.

    1. Definitely something to think about, if the military has been mired in war in Afganistan for so long without a decisive victory when they are up against poppy growers how would they do against the agro redneck patriots fueled by patriotism.
      Not so good i suspect

      1. Actually, the U.S. military is Not “up against poppy growers” – the U.S. military is Guarding the poppy fields. Check out for photos of the military in the Afghan poppy fields.

    2. Absolutely agree here. Didn’t we just see what 1 person can do in Southern California? How long and how many agencies did it take to hunt down and kill 1 guy? Oh man what a boondoggle that was. Can you imagine what it will be like if these same people encounter only minor resistance. Say a couple of hundred out of hundreds of millions.

      The people who are planning this war sure as hell aren’t going to be the same ones fighting it and the people who do try to fight it are going to wake up pretty fast to the mess they will be getting themselves into.

      1. I agree on your point… While we are kicking their ass, we can also crash the fiat dollars by starving the system by not paying any bills to the system. Let the people crash the dollar.

      2. Absolutely true, remember the beltway sniper? He had people in five states scared to leave their homes. Or how about Son of Sam? He wasn’t even a sniper, just a lunatic with a revolver. He had ten million people scared to make out in their cars. Twenty snipers could effectively shut down the entire country.

        1. I live in a town of 50,000. Even if half the population took-up arms along with the Sheriff’s office… Those bastards would be smashed… After that, we take their weapons and mrap tanks and wait for the next group of cowards.

    3. That’s right.
      All they have is intimidation which is why we see all of these ammo purchases, etc.
      Pennsylvania alone has 1 million deer hunters roaming the woods each year.

      That one state has a lot of men with high power, accurate rifles.
      How many DHS slobs would it take to disarm PA?
      How about Texas! (Ha-hahaha, right!)
      Now add the rest of the states.
      Now add the rest of gun owners.
      We are many, they are few, they fear us.

  2. In the Russian Revolution the Czar made the serious mistake of setting up machine gun nests overlooking street intersections as a show of force. Two weeks later he lost.

  3. I also think it’s bluff and bluster because a shooting war with citizens intodays age would be sucicdal for the government. They are attempting to dry up ammo becuase they fear us, not the other way around. So, once the people figure out they have all the power, the elite will run for the hills or some remote island where they haven’t pissed everyone off yet.

    1. I also agree… Add to the shooting war a population who will stop paying their bills… We would starve them in addition to blasting the crap out of them.

  4. BOYCOTT the military. Get every AMERICAN out of the military. Let Feinstein and Jim Carey, and Obama and all the gun-grabbers go fight the wars. AMERICANS are ON STRIKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. The purchase of those millions of rounds of ammunition by the DHS seems to be more of a form of covert gun control than anything, in which the purpose is more about buying them all up to reduce their availability for everyone else than it is about arming themselves for a civil war.

  6. Aware?????????????? Are they also buying 7000 FULL AUTO ar15s to deplete the stocks??????????,how about those 2300 mrap city tanks JUST aquired to deplete the shelves of tanks?????????????? As it is EASTER I will keep it at this but you are in serious need of 2 red pills see ya in the morning.

    1. It doesn’t matter…you can’t win against the number of Americans with an attitude and guns…they will lose badly. Most of DHS will run like little girls and most of our military and cops will not shoot Americans… The Gov is screwed.Just wait and see what happens when the bastards try looting our accounts… That’s when SHTF and they find out what awaking a sleeping giant really means.

      1. I hear that said a lot and it isn’t true. the cops have already proven they are willing to shoot at anything that moves and the military will shoot at US citizens. Look at the bonus army as an example of this and they were vets.

        1. Ther are always those who will, but I don’t think the cops or military will stand a chance if some of them do. I think most cops will be focused on their families if they have one. Like I said, some will and some will not.

    2. Yes, they are also buying the rifles and MRAP’s, however a quick look at numbers shows that’s all bluff, too. There are a little over 3,000 counties in the US so 2,700 MRAP vehicles is less than one per county. Seven thousand rifles is only a little more than two per county. Somehow I’m not impressed.

      As for all of the zillions of rounds of ammo, it is on IDIQ contracts (indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity) and DHS has not taken possession of this ammo, and may never. These gigantic “purchases” are on paper, meant to intimidate us. We the People’s response has been an even bigger ammo buying spree, only ours has not been buying paper, we’ve been buying the real stuff and taking immediate delivery. DHS tried to bluff us and it backfired.

      The fine print in the ammo contracts is what counts, and if DHS ever calls in these contracts, they get absolute priority in production, in which case they WOULD be able to dry up the market. So they’ve given themselves that capability at the time of their choosing, but right now the shelves are empty because we’re buying it faster than manufacturers can produce it. The government is trying to put a brave face on this, but they’re doing it because they’re terrified. They’ve probably watched this six-minute film, The Tiny Dot:

    3. There’s a big difference between placing an order and taking delivery. How many of those AR-15’s did they receive so far? How many of the alleged billion rounds?
      All we have so far is a piece of paper saying they want them, and manufacturers who are already having a hard time meeting demand. (civilian demand)

    4. I didn’t say that they weren’t going to use them for any other purpose. I’m just saying that there are multiple angles to it.

  7. There will be an armed and determined patriot behind every blade of grass. The DHS storm-trooper traitors will be slaughtered and the politicians, corporatists (a.k.a. fascists), and banksters that have subverted the country and shoved us off a cliff for a few pieces of silver will find themselves in excruciating pain before being hung by the neck from the nearest light pole or tree branch or torn limb from limb in short order. The War of Restoration (thanks to Smilardog for this apt title) will not go well for the enemies of the good citizens.

  8. Lets hope this government maneuver gets another few hundred thousand shooters into handloading. It’s usually easier to get powder, projectiles, and primers to load cases you already have than finished bullets. All the materials except the cases are generic, and the bullets can be cast from wheel weights.

  9. And if I were a criminal, I’d be the first person in line to buy a gun through the legal channels, right. Stupid. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what this is really all about.

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