Media: the most shocking interview that “never happened”

Jon Rappoport

Suppose a reporter interviewed players behind the scenes re the question: who really runs the US government? Who really sets national policy?

A legit interview. Actual people. Actual quotes. Not just a circumstantial case.

And suppose these players answered the big questions directly and unmistakably?  

And then…nothing happened.

No further coverage. No media hounds let loose to dig further. No government investigation. Nothing.

Well, it’s true. There was an interview. The questions were asked and answered. There was no tap-dancing or beating around the bush or vague reference.

Anyone who was anyone in Washington politics or media had access to the interview. Understood its meaning.

But no one shouted from the rooftops. No one used the conversation to force a scandal. No one protested loudly.

The conversation revealed that the entire basis of the Constitution had been torpedoed, that the people who were running US national policy were agents of an elite shadow group.

And yet: official silence. Media silence. The Dept. of Justice made no moves, Congress undertook no serious inquiries, and the President, Jimmy Carter, issued no statements. Carter was himself a covert agent in the White House, a willing pawn, and despite his proclaimed religious values, was nothing more than a rank con artist, a hustler, a phony down to his fingertips.

I’ll boil down the 1978 conversation between a reporter and two Trilateral Commission members:

“The US has been taken over.”

“Yes, so?”

By the way, the infamous Trilateral Commission still exists.

Many people think the TC, created in 1973 by David Rockefeller, is a relic of an older time.

Think again.

Patrick Wood, author of Trilaterals Over Washington, points out there are only 87 members of the Trilateral Commission who live in America. Obama appointed eleven of them to posts in his administration.

For example:

* Tim Geithner, Treasury Secretary;

* James Jones, National Security Advisor;

* Paul Volker, Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee;

* Dennis Blair, Director of National Intelligence.

Several other noteworthy Trilateral members: George HW Bush; Bill Clinton; Dick Cheney; Al Gore.

Keep in mind that the original stated goal of the TC was to create “a new international economic order.”

In the run-up to his inauguration after the 2008 presidential election, Obama was tutored by the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Brzezinski wrote, four years before birthing the TC with his godfather, David Rockefeller:

“[The] nation state as a fundamental unit of man’s organized life has ceased to be the principal creative force. International banks and multinational corporations are acting and planning in terms that are far in advance of the political concepts of the nation state.”

Any doubt on the question of TC goals is answered by David Rockefeller himself, the founder of the TC, in his Memoirs (2003):

“Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

Okay. Here is a close-up snap shot of a remarkable moment from out of the past. It’s through-the-looking-glass—a conversation between reporter, Jeremiah Novak, and two Trilateral Commission members, Karl Kaiser and Richard Cooper. The interview took place in 1978. It concerned the issue of exactly who was formulating US economic and political policy.

The careless and off-hand attitude of Trilateralists Kaiser and Cooper is astonishing. It’s as if they’re saying, “What we’re revealing is already out in the open, it’s too late to do anything about it, why are you so worked up, we’ve already won…”

NOVAK (the reporter): Is it true that a private [Trilateral committee] led by Henry Owen of the US and made up of [Trilateral] representatives of the US, UK, West Germany, Japan, France and the EEC is coordinating the economic and political policies of the Trilateral countries [which would include the US]?

COOPER: Yes, they have met three times.

NOVAK: Yet, in your recent paper you state that this committee should remain informal because to formalize ‘this function might well prove offensive to some of the Trilateral and other countries which do not take part.’ Who are you afraid of?

KAISER: Many countries in Europe would resent the dominant role that West Germany plays at these [Trilateral] meetings.

COOPER: Many people still live in a world of separate nations, and they would resent such coordination [of policy].

NOVAK: But this [Trilateral] committee is essential to your whole policy. How can you keep it a secret or fail to try to get popular support [for its decisions on how Trilateral member nations will conduct their economic and political policies]?

COOPER: Well, I guess it’s the press’ job to publicize it.

NOVAK: Yes, but why doesn’t President Carter come out with it and tell the American people that [US] economic and political power is being coordinated by a [Trilateral] committee made up of Henry Owen and six others? After all, if [US] policy is being made on a multinational level, the people should know.

COOPER: President Carter and Secretary of State Vance have constantly alluded to this in their speeches. [untrue]

KAISER: It just hasn’t become an issue.

Source: “Trilateralism: The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management,” ed. by Holly Sklar, 1980. South End Press, Boston. Pages 192-3.

This interview “slipped under the mainstream media radar,” which is to say, it was ignored, buried, sat on, censored.

US economic and political policy run by a committee of the Trilateral Commission—the Commission had been created in 1973 as an “informal discussion group” by David Rockefeller and his sidekick, Zbigniew Brzezinski.


When Carter won the presidential election, his aide, Hamilton Jordan, said that if after the inauguration, Cy Vance and Brzezinski came on board as secretary of state and national security adviser, “We’ve lost. And I’ll quit.” Lost—because both men were powerful members of the Trilateral Commission and their appointment to key positions would signal a surrender of White House control to the Commission.

Vance and Brzezinski were appointed secretary of state and national security adviser, as Jordan feared. But he didn’t quit. He became Carter’s chief of staff.

Think about this: if the interview had gained exposure, if it had ignited a firestorm in the press, with reporters pouring gasoline on it day in and day out, for months, interviewing Trilateral players and their government allies and their banking allies and their mega-corporate allies and their shills…with rats coming out of the closet and confessing exactly how the US government had been taken over…

…with headlines like:





On and on and on…

This would have created the seeds of an alternative future, a future quite unlike the present we are living through now.

Of course, the naysayers would say it’s futile to imagine a future that didn’t happen, and we should just lay down and forget and let the takeover proceed. Yes, they always say that. They always say there is no chance for victory, because they’ve given up on their own lives, they’ve made their own internal compromises, they’ve sold themselves out over and over, they’ve bargained away their last chip of power and imagination, and they want companions in their spiritual narcosis.

But there it is. The interview that “never happened.”

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails or OutsideTheRealityMachine.

4 thoughts on “Media: the most shocking interview that “never happened”

  1. “…the naysayers would say it’s futile to imagine a future that didn’t happen, and we should just lay down and forget and let the takeover proceed. Yes, they always say that. They always say there is no chance for victory, because they’ve given up on their own lives, they’ve made their own internal compromises, they’ve sold themselves out over and over, they’ve bargained away their last chip of power and imagination, and they want companions in their spiritual narcosis.”

    They’ll be dealt with accordingly, when the time comes.

    Congressman McDonald paid with his life for trying to expose the TC. So did everyone else on that flight.

  2. In the year 1215, a French religious heretical sect called the Albegensians were ravaging the French countryside, killing all the Catholics they could find in villages, small towns, hamlets, etc. The Catholics managed to muster 200 horse (mounted cavalry) and 800 infantry (in those days infantry were just cannon fodder). Most of the Catholics had no combat experience and very little training to none. The Albegensians were “all horse mounted calvary, and battle hardened, all 100,000 of them. – True and documented story.

    100,000 vs 1000 or 100 to 1: The Catholics knelt down, prayed the Rosary and attacked: After the battle 8 Catholics were wounded and 2 killed, the Albegensians were annihilated.

    In 15th. century Spain; a huge Muslim army faced a small contingent of Queen Isabella’s Spanish Catholic Knights, enormously outnumbered, the Catholic Knights said their prayers and attacked across a large plain, with the opposing massive force coming towards them also. As the Catholic Knights were riding in their charge, out of the clouds came three men on horse, St. Michael, St. Raphael and St. Gabriel, the three Archangels, who rode in with the Catholic Knights and helped them literally wipe out the opposing force. True and documented story; and in remembrance of this battle, which was even recorded by some of the Muslim survivors, is a statue in Spain to this day, commemoration that event and the charge with the three Archangels.

    In between the four Crusades, the Crusaders left some of their men in various forts throughout the Middle East, around Jerusalem. At times they, the Catholic Knights would ride out, 40-50 knights against 1000 or more Moors, or Muslims, sometimes the odds were even greater. Each time they would kill large numbers of the Moors and loose maybe one or two, maybe one or two wounded. 50 vs 1000 to 5000: Fact and true story documented.

    One might search “The Marine and St. Michael” – a true story read to over 5000 Marines before they embarked for Korea in 1950-51. The story of how St. Michael the Archangel helped save a young Catholic Marine – I’ll leave it to you to read it.

    War is a punishment for sin – abortion, homosexuality, pornography, contraception, drugs, greed, immodesty in dress, divorce, so say the saints and mystics, who also have warned that God is going to let our enemies punish us severely very shortly, possibly by next late spring, notwithstanding something big happening in the mean time, this for a punishment for our sins. The saints and mystics warn that Russia and China win everywhere for the first year or so of a near three year war. First sudden, very sudden civil war and revolution in Europe and America, and when all is in turmoil and chaos, we get attacked from five sides.

    1. Florida: Brazil, Cuba, Venezuela, and other S. American Marxist countries side with Russia. These agreements have already secretly been made and preparations under way.
    2. Alaska: Russians attempt to drive to US/Can border, but are stopped by US/Can forces (and civilians also in all these encounters en mass)
    3. Minnesota: Russian and Muslim forces and units strike out to sabotage railways, bridges, airports, utilities, dams, electricity, etc. Tens of thousands of Muslims and Russians reside in Minn. Mich. and the Dakota’s.
    4. Mexico: Sides with Russia as the other S. American countries. That’s why the occasional Mexican forage into and across the border by Mexican troops. Intelligence reports have said that they have discovered large weapons caches of heavy weapons, personal carriers, and artillery and others in Mexican salt mines, undetected by satellite, all Russian and Chinese made. Note in Mexico city last year thousands of Russian and Chinese troops marched in the parade.
    5. Pennsylvania: Russian and “other ? forces, attempt to drive from the East Coast through Pittsburgh towards the interior.
    6. One million man Chinese amphibious assault “with help from within our own government”. The Chinese take to the Rockies for six months, killing and murdering possibly millions of American men, women and children. Here search and read the speech given by the Chinese Minister of Defense in 2005 to Chinese military officers and government officials. – a must read. We eventually drive them back into the ocean.

    We win in the end: First sudden and the most violent civil war and revolution in history for three to four months and then when all is in turmoil and chaos, our enemies attack. No electricity, utilities, gas, stores, transportation, pharmacies, etc, for over a year, just chaos, anarchy, massive and oppressive government martial law, gangs, mobs, neighbors once docile now monsters, starvation on a level never imagined in America leading to widespread cannibalism – so say these mystics and visionaries whose descriptions go back even to the last century of what is going to happen soon – they specifically mention the 20th century filled with heresies and the abandonment of God, the wholesale apostasy of both the hierarchy of the Church and its peoples. When all seems lost, when both the world and Church seem doomed, then God, when His justice has been appeased, intervenes and turns the tide so to speak. All those who are enemies of God, His Church (including those within up to the top), and our country will be annihilated, all, not one will escape, so say these mystics, saints and holy souls. All those who supported in any way abortion, homosexuality, contraception, pornography, etc, even by association (i.e. voting for a Democratic Party which “publicly” endorses all these vices is guilt by association}, but the “chastisement” is specifically for the sins against the first three commandments, which are sins against God’s Majesty Itself. God forgives, He knows each one’s mind, for those who now make an attempt to amend one’s life, to ask for the grace to be sorry for your sins and neglects, God forgives, but for the others they will all be annihilated. This will be recognized in the last year of this coming chastisement and war, that the war is between God and Satan, between good and bad, vice and virtue. No matter your training, your preparation, your experience, etc, if you are against God, His Church and our country, you will meet a terrible end.

    Read just a few Catholic prophecies from reputable Catholic mystics and saints, etc:

    – The prophecies of Blessed Elena Aiello: Italian mystic and stigmatic (1895-1961) who warned: Russia will attack and overrun all of Europe and America with her “secret ?” armies. Every major city in the world will be destroyed by massive earthquakes, tidal waves and the war, whole cities, provinces and several “countries” will disappear in these massive earthquakes, those happening now are just small warnings of what is to come and man is not listening.
    – In 1984, Pope JP II asked a German mystic what he had seen in his visions to which he replied: I saw the sky black with planes and missiles coming out of Russian towards the West (Europe) and two submarines surfacing on the East and West Coast of America and firing their missiles at the coastal cities.
    – Read: The prophecies of Alois Irimaier: Austrian mystic whom even the Austrian government attests to his authenticity and foreknowledge.
    – Read: The prophecies of Blessed Elena Aiello: Italian mystic and stigmatic.
    – Read: WW3 Prophecies and Visions from Central Europe: Here several Catholic prophecies of note.

    Lastly: Marie-Julie Jahenny: (1850-1941): French Catholic mystic and stigmatic, who in 1888 was shown by Our Lord WWI, WWII and WWIII in detail. Among many other revelations she describes the Russian attack in three wedges against Europe. 1. Russia attacks and overruns all the Scandinavian countries. (note: just recenty these countries have complained of the practice and mock attacks on their country by Russian planes). 2. Russia attacks through Eastern Germany towards France and Spain. (note: Reason Russians want the Ukraine in order to move their forces closer to European borders). 3. Russia attacks through and with Iran to Turkey, Greece and then to Italy. (note: Pope St. Pius X had a vision, as many other mystics have had, of the Russians raising their flag over the dome of St. Peters and killing all the priests in the Vatican.). Russia wins everywhere for the first year or so and then the tide turns.

    A man of royal blood, of a family thought to be extinct, that has been hiding in exile for a few centuries, in the middle of what seems to be a total Russian victory, he surfaces, rallies what is left of Europes forces and meets a massive Russian/Islamic army in the Birch Tree Country of Germany. A battle ensues and this is the beginning of miraculous events, this man of royal blood, chases the Russians into Russian and annihilates their armies, and then turns to the Muslims, chases them to the Middle East and also annihilates them. This man, of Royal Blood, called the “Great Monarch” in many Catholic prophecies that go back centuries, becomes “King”: of a Holy Roman Catholic Empire, he rules justly and charitably for years and even oversees the rule of all the other countries, including America.

    Lots to say, but get ready, get what you need, arm up big time, and find a cabin, farm, relative, to go to when things begin, and don’t show up empty handed. Now you have the time and according to your abilities, prepare. God sees if you believe and prepare and tor this will help you with what you cannot do, but to just say, God will help me – no go.

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