Mother Who Questions Vax at Hospital Has Newborn Taken Away

The Healthy Economist – by Sarah  I am having a great deal of trouble typing this post.  I am so upset and outraged over what was done to Jodi Ferris and her baby at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center in Pennsylvania shortly after she gave birth that I am having difficulty staying composed enough to write a coherent story.

If you recall, this is the same area of the state where officials allowed a serial child molester like Jerry Sandusky, former Penn State assistant football coach, to go free for decades and continue to abuse children unfortunate enough to come across his lecherous path while a mother who gives birth in a government hospital has her baby taken away for questioning whether vaccination with Hep B is truly necessary.

Does something seem very very wrong with this picture?

Jodi and Scott Ferris’ Story

Jodi had hoped to have a homebirth.  After going into labor early and given the distance to the nearest hospital, Jodi and her husband Scott were advised by their midwife to call an ambulance and get to the hospital.

Jodi and Scott’s baby girl was born in the ambulance in the parking lot of Hershey Medical Center.  Attending personnel at the government run facility took charge of “Annie” and Jodi very quickly.

Jodi was unable to see and hold Annie after the birth and hospital personnel were totally unresponsive when she continued to inquire about her newborn.   Jodi was also given an injection of oxytocin without first being told what it was.  Hospital personnel only inquired whether she was allergic after the injection was given.

Jodi’s persistent inquires about Annie continued to go unheeded.  She was simply told that “she is in good hands and you’ll be able to see her soon”.

Finally, a doctor told Jodi that Annie had scored a 9 out of 10 on the APGAR test given to newborns which was very good considering that an 8 or above indicates a healthy child.

A short time later, a different doctor told Jodi that Annie was very sick and would need to stay in the hospital.  This doctor also arrogantly indicated his dislike for midwives with the comment “too many people think they know what they’re doing”.

About an hour after being told Annie was very sick, Annie was finally brought to Jodi.  She was told Annie was doing well and would be able to go home shortly.

Baby Detained at Hospital For No Medical Reason

A few hours later, the story changed yet again as another hospital staffer told Jodi and Scott that Annie would have to remain in the hospital for 48-72 hours for observation.

When they inquired why, they were told that the “law” required Annie to stay for at least 48 hours.

There is no such law in Pennsylvania, by the way.

After consulting with risk management about why Annie had to stay at the hospital, it was admitted that even though Annie was fine and there was no reason she couldn’t go home, she was being held prisoner at the hospital for 48-72 hours not for any health reasons but out of concern that if anything went wrong after Annie was discharged that the hospital might get sued.

Hospital risk management ultimately relented and said a 24 hour waiting period was sufficient and that Jodi and Scott could stay with their baby overnight.

A Parent’s Worse Nightmare Begins

Later that day, a social worker came to Jodi and Scott’s room and announced that she was going to conduct an investigation of them.

The social worker also claimed that it was “against the law” to show Jodi the allegations before she was questioned.

When Jodi resisted and said that she was not comfortable answering questions when she didn’t even know what was going on, the social worker threatened to call police and take custody of her baby.

It soon became apparent that the problem was Jodi and Scott’s apparent refusal to consent to medical treatments for Annie.  The social worker claimed that she had refused the Vitamin K shot for Annie. Jodi said that no one had even asked her about the shot and that Annie had already been given the shot based on a conversation she overhead from hospital personnel.

The social worker was unable to provide a single example of necessary medical treatment that Jodi and Scott had refused.

Scott had to leave shortly after that as their older children were staying with friends and he had to go attend to them.

Hep B Vaccine Questioned

After Scott left, hospital staff demanded that Annie be given the Hepatitis B vaccine.  Jodi said that would be fine if she and Annie were tested to see if they actually had Hep B first.

The social worker pressed Jodi to consent to the shot immediately even though no testing for Hep B could be done that day.  Jodi asked if she could wait until Scott got back before a decision was made.

Once again, the social worker threatened to call police and take custody of Annie if Jodi did not make an immediate decision about the Hep B vaccine.  She also pressed for Jodi to sign a “safety plan” so she could conclude her investigation.

Jodi said that she wanted her husband and an attorney present before she signed such a document as she felt that she was in no physical state to read and sign it at that time.

Annie Taken Into Police Custody

When the social worker could not pressure Jodi to sign the document, she went and called police.

With no court order, police took custody of Annie claiming she was ill which was completely false.

With Annie now in her custody, the social worker approved the Hep B vaccine for Annie, completely overruling the desires and wishes of her parents to have their baby tested for Hep B first before the vaccine was administered.

Then, the hospital kicked Jodi out of the hospital where she was told she could return every 3 hours to nurse Annie.

Scott rushed back to meet Jodi at the hospital entrance as she was being escorted out and with nowhere to go, they spent the night in the parking lot of the hospital, sleeping in the car while their baby was in the hands of police and social services inside the hospital.

Annie Finally Returned to Parents

No doubt exhausted and emotionally distraught, Jodi and Scott attended a shelter care hearing with a judicial officer the following morning.

After hearing the evidence, the officer immediately returned custody of Annie to her parents.

Parent Rights Being Eroded

The moral of this story is that government and hospital workers will lie about the health of your child and quickly violate your Constitutional Rights in order to to force medical treatment upon your children without your consent.

Jodi and Scott Ferris have bravely decided to take their case to court in order to put an end to this madness so no other parents ever have to endure the ordeal they suffered at Hershey Medical Center after the birth of Annie.

If this case moves you as it has me, please consider donating to the Homeschool Freedom Fundwhich will assist the Homeschool Legal Defense Association with the funds necessary to support Jodi and Scott’s case in court.

No social worker should be able to play God with someone else’s baby and get off on her own power making up “rules” and “laws” as she goes for her own convenience and personal satisfaction.

There is no doubt that this social worker’s intentions were entirely personal; she was aiming to teach these homeschooling, homebirthing parents a lesson they would never forget.

It’s high time a court of law draws a line in the sand once and for all to establish that parents and not the government have the ultimate right to determine both medical and educational decisions for their children.

There is no such thing as “your government family” as Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security is so creepily fond of saying.


Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist

Source:  Newborn Seized in Hospital by Police, Social Worker

59 thoughts on “Mother Who Questions Vax at Hospital Has Newborn Taken Away

  1. If that isn’t a horror story, I don’t know what is! I hope the social worker, the hospital, and anyone else involved in this crime gets the book thrown at them, but knowing our corrupt judicial system, I would be surprised if it happened.

  2. Here’s the real kicker: it was the ‘medical establishment’s cover story of an experimental Hepatitis B vaccine back in the late ’70’s / early 80’s that started the AIDS epidemic among the gay community in this country. These people are SICK, in more ways than one. That’s why I avoid hospitals and ‘doctors’ at ALL costs!

    1. You hit the nail on the head! The awakened ones are being born now with the new 12 strand DNA. What do you think these “vaccines” can do to genetic make up?

  3. A friend of mine just gave birth to a girl the other day. I overheard the nurse tell her that she was going to give the baby the Hep Vaccine. I was going to tell her about the problems with vaccines before the shot, but I ended up not saying anything and wanted to hit myself for it later. Luckily her baby was fine after the shot. This story just reminds me of it. Damn Vaccines!

  4. This is scary, This is what happen in our country, all because no one has any common scent any more. They don`t teach it in school, and you sure don`t get from playing vetogames all day long! I can understand why you were so up set, I would have been too. The first thing I would have done was call a lawer if they wouldn`t tell them why, while still in the hospital.

  5. It seems our American cousins are learning from British social workers who over here are a law unto themselves.

    British social workers act like this as a matter of routine, since local authorities lost millions in the Icelandic banking scandal, British children are now stolen to order to “sell” on the adoption markets, a prime blond baby boy is worth anything up to 50,000 pounds in the shared “pot” paid out by the taxpayer.

    Social workers across the globe to ensure their position are ramping up small issues into huge and alarming crisis, in Britain alone it is said that up to 85% of British children who are stolen and forever torn from their families, were stolen on faulty or bogus evidence and horrendous corruption within the system rubber stamps it.

  6. Time to randomly beat and terrorize all these evil nazi psychos…. BTW, was a phlebotomist and never took my third Hep B, I heard it destroys your immune system, the last one is the death knell. Some people never recover from it. I quit the job, I’m not taking flu shots and other murderous ineffectual eugenics shots.

    1. Thomas Paine created the original version of the Bill of Rights in the USA. He is not associated with the New World Order (NWO) and you are a complete idiot for suggesting he is.

  7. According to local news, the story seems true, unfortunately. But please be more accurate with your geography. The Sandusky reference was probably not needed as this story is horrible enough. PSHMC is in Hershey, Pa…where as State College is 3 hours away to the NW. Hersheys not exactly in Jer~Bear’s backyard.

  8. there is no doubt in my mind ,,,being an ex – gangster id have taken these actions as the most serious threat to my childs life and that of my wife and myself – id have left the hospital , put a balaclava on grabbed my guns and put that saturn worshipping alien in the ground,,,a clear cut case of them or us,,,,non violence in this particular set of circumstances would only end up with one winner,,,,the demons!! those from el/chronos/shani/saturn that have now infultrated every aspect of good humans lives.

    1. Much truth in these statements above, more so than virtually all know. This Elite Cult hijacks minds in many ways, and although I seriously doubt the social worker is a card carrying Satanist or Luciferian (although social work attracts deviants like flies to sh*t), the constant brainwashing and propaganda that women of her ilk are fed on a daily basis erodes morality, ethics and decency, which is ironic because social workers are well-known for their belief that they are the saviors of all children. Well, in reality, they are Pan, the flute playing chimera who leads children towards their doom. Violence is the last resort, but have we picked the last straw? How many social workers would be quick to push a little personal vendetta if one of their own was publicly slain? It’s no longer acceptable to hear… “hey, I’m just doing my job sir”… when lives of our children are at stake. We all choose how we get that pathetic paycheck, so suck it up sunshine and accept the consequences. Eye for an eye, it must be, as the judicial no longer cares for thee.

  9. Medical tyranny/medical freedom is one of the most important issues facing our society in a system rapidly spiraling out of control.
    We really need to back off the vaccine protocol and allow freedom of choice (also known historically as informed consent). But first they must do ethical testing because their presently controlled system is murdering and maiming a huge number of people.
    The level of absolute criminality in the vaccine program and medical tyranny is at a critical juncture. Obamacare merely makes this much, much worse because it prevents you from avoiding the criminals.
    And, of course, the captured Supreme Court does whatever it can to further corrupt our society and the tenets of freedom which are the hallmark of a great society.

  10. The moral of this story is that our government and police have gone completely “darkside”. Their behavior demonstrates that they no longer have any claim to legitimacy.

    As another person said, the victims need to put their experience in detailed writing, naming names and adding pictures if possible. We can’t stop criminal activity if we can’t identify the individual perps.

  11. Be patient. The present neo-comunist Zio-regime is nearing its end, having run out of ‘air’ money. Its ‘useful idiots’ will be abandoned as they flee for greener pastures (India). The records of the names of these tool(Z) and their actions will remain, There will be tribunals. There will be a ‘Day of the Rope’.

    1. Bull crap. The Bank of International Settlements and the 150+ central banks worldwide control everything: govt, media, economies, social movements, military, agriculture, EVERYTHING!

      Running out of money is the LEAST of their worries, you idiot. Learn to do some basic research sometime, idiot. Idiocy contributes to the problem.

  12. Where did this person think they gained the authority as a tax eating servant of the people to do all this to this couple? From experience I can tell you home schoolers and home birthers are gentle smart caring people who only want the best for their children so why all the state sponsored terrorism against them? Do these terrorists have names? Obviously there is plenty of evidence to bring these social workers up on charges. Maybe they lost their minds and should be evaluated? This kind of hostility is a symptom of mental illness, is it not?

  13. Their choice to utilize the hospital services makes them responsible for anything that happened thereafter.

    1. So, if you walk into a store, you can be murdered for no reason because it was your choice to go into the store?

  14. They tell us that “The Bible was made up to Control You” yet people go to church voluntarily with their Families. The state forces children out of their homes to teach them about evolution and “science” while banning the world’s oldest collection of geneologies and historical records. So who is really controlling who?

    1. Its a false dichotomy. Evolution and Bible are both there to control the masses. Its called a dialectic, negation of negation. Science is the new religion.

  15. This is why parents should never fill out the form for a birth certificate. Instead, have the babies birth recorded at your local church. Filling out the form creates a birth certificate or, in legal terms, a TITLE to the baby. The BC that you get is not the ACTUAL BC. It is a COPY. And just like a TITLE to your car, whoever HOLDS the title – like when a bank HOLDS the title because you have a LOAN on it, the HOLDER of the cars TITLE OWNS the car. The HOLDER of the actual birth certificate, ie TITLE to the HUMAN, owns the HUMAN. Again, you do not get the ORIGINAL BC (title), the GOVERNMENT holds the ORIGINAL BC/TITLE which legally means they OWN the human (like you own your car when the bank gives you the title). You can not take possession of the BC (title) because to do so means the OWNER of the title has to SIGN IT OVER TO YOU, which the Government WILL NOT DO. That’s how the Gov. OWNS each and every one of us, and how we are LEGALLY BOUND to their rules (laws) and how ILLEGALS do not have to FOLLOW the rules/laws. Because the Government DOES NOT HAVE POSSESSION OF THEIR “TITLE”, or birth certificate. Illegals, who BECOME legals have a title created, WHICH THE GOVERNMENT TAKES POSSESSION OF. That’s today’s “legal lesson” and what “they” don’t want you to know.

  16. This really is an abomination and yet another incident proving that social services Destroying Children and Families HRS and every other government agency that is paid to monitor children are nothing more than glorified snakes with deep seeded issues from living in their delusional concept of reality. Taking a child from their parents who question whether poison should be injected into their perfectly healthy child for no reason other than the snakes are without faith and obcessed with control and altering dna. They use any excuse to cling to any child they believe may increase their life force flow without any concern about whether their presence alone could compromise the childs natural connection. All those workers should be gathered up and sold or traded for syrian children then ban them from ever entering this country again. Call it crimes against divinity against nature and for interference with the emotional spiritual and physical development of human mind body soul complexes

  17. When our son was born (21 years ago this month) the hospital did not have much of a problem with our not being on board for vaccinations ( we refused all vaccinations) although they made me talk to a MD first, my questions to him about mercury adjuncts and the safety of the shots etc really set him back on his heels, ( he did not know what I was talking about).
    It was when we were filling out the birth certificate app that I crossed out the SSI application part and wrote on the NA in big letters.

    The nurse taking this info did not care for my not volunteering my son to the SSI ponzi scheme, she told us that we could not pick up our son till we signed and filled out the SSI application.
    Upon which we told her she should call the police and the hospital administrator or there was going to be a problem.

    She did call the police and the hospital administrator, the hospital administrator and their lawyer showed up first.

    The first words out of the lawyer was “Mr——–, I’m very sorry the nurse did not understand that the SSI part of the birth certificate is
    VOLUNTARY!!! then the hospital administrator give my wife a gift basket.

    Sorry to see that today that might have cost me my son, our hearts go out the that family

  18. @sue meeeeee: Good for you. Glad to see people finally waking up to the fact that these vaccinations are nothing more than another NWO plot to exterminate us.
    @Ron: You’re very close in your assessment of the BC, but it is actually a stock certificate.The proof of this? There’s a set of numbers on that certificate. If you were to give that set of numbers to a stock broker and have him run them, he’d be able to tell you what your ‘strawman’ is worth on the stock market. Your ‘strawman’ is the corporate fiction the govt. created with your BC, so that corporations could deal with you on the same level. That is why your driver’s license, credit cards, passport, bank statements, etc. all have your name in all capital letters. That’s not the flesh and blood you, it’s a corporate fiction. It’s a brilliant concept, unknown by most. If you want more information on this subject, feel free to ask. I’d be more than happy to comply.

    1. Ok, I’ll bite NWO. What do they do with us as stocks? Do the elites trade us behind closed doors in dark rooms? I’m not being snarky, I would not be surprised.

  19. Some rightly angry people here use the terms fascist and nazi in describing the behaviour of the social worker and the institution for which she works, but it wasn’t the communists of Russia in 1917 who were opposed to private central banking; whereas the nazis were, turning the private central bank in Germany into a state central bank, and so had to be destroyed.

    The NWO is therefore neither fascist nor nazi, it is communist.

  20. @ Chris Diluzio: Actually, that’s not far from the truth. The BC’s are bundled up and sold on the International market. They’re sold according to the government’s assessment of your future production based on a certain set of statistics. However, I seriously doubt that this will be a viable option for them much longer, considering the rate at which they’re killing us off these days. This started back when they first created birth certificates, when we had a much longer life expectancy.

    1. Depends on how you look at it. What need do the elite have for us to live past 50? Once we hit 50, many people stop working or start looking to retire and they have no reason to keep us alive. Therefore, maybe their system still works, allowing us to be cattle and sheep of the system until we hit 50. Then, they could care less what happens.

    2. But then they can have a form of “dead peasant insurance” out on you, kind of like derivatives and options, so you would even be putting more control of human value in their accounting when you die. If you live too much longer than they estimate, they start losing on their options. Hey, maybe you should play that market and get stock in yourself. But those who own “you” already have that covered since almost no one can afford to buy the bundles or aggregates that contain your corporate person. If you can, then your worth is higher, so the aggregate with your “straw man” would cost more, so basically you can never afford to buy your straw man back once it enters the market. I guess there are other ways though, like separating your natural person from the artificial person, etc.

  21. I remember reading somewhere an Immunologist stating that Hep B shots given before the age of 6 months were medically useless. And he (of course) was certainly not anti-vaccine. So it is possible that this family may find some medical professionals who will give them some begrudging support.

  22. Im sooooo glad that many ppl are now opening their eyes to all da shit da government are doing to us. The problem is, maybe its too late to take a stand. For da sake of my children and others i hope its not too late.

  23. These people are evil to the core!!! Once Obama care kicks in, this kind of thing is going to increase dramatically. I feel that it is high time Americans kick off the yoke of these oppressive vermin and assert their liberties and freedoms by their own hand. This society is completely corrupted and not a single, living politician or judge can be trusted with your family and your rights. They think they own you. Americans are nothing but chattel property and these people are your masters.

    1. Remember obama care is romney care. Both corporate parties are composed of corporate representatives. We now have representation without representation… and michael mazur, this is economic fascism not communism. In communism the government owned the businesses. In fascism the businesses own the government.

  24. If I have a child I am so afraid of this happening to me that I will simply not go to the hospital. I will attend a birthing center or hire a midwife. I will also not notify the government of my child’s birth. If I do have complications I will attend a private hospital and pay the price. Not sure if at that point I could get away without filing a SSI form on the BC. This is horrifying to me! I did have a flu shot for the first time last year and ever since then I have had the worst cold sinus problems in my entire life. Stay away from them! There is no telling what is really in them or any vaccine for that matter! I can’t believe they can do this!

    Our new healthcare is very scary indeed. If they can get away with this now what will they do when it is totally put into effect?!

  25. The central bankers who run the world behind the facade of the United Nations and governments worldwide are MALTHUSIAN FABIAN SOCIALISTS. Malthusian = wanting zero population growth or a decrease in population, to prevent useless sheeple from diminishing resources owned by central bankers. Fabian = fulfilling the socialist agenda in a covert way by infiltrating existing institutions and controlling mainstream media messaging through social engineering organizations such as the Tavistock Institute for Human Relations in London, UK.

    Read this. Prove it to yourself. Then tell everyone you know.

    Otherwise, you become part of the problem, and willfully so.

  26. Thank goodness for all the truly good, even great, comments here. I waited to see what kind of stuff might come along before posting this.

    OK, here’s a nice long comment to add to all the more reasonable shorter ones. If it stops being interesting then you can skip it. Surely someone will say it better anyway, if it even needs to be said, so just skim it if it’s too long for you today. Also, I lost track of political correctness toward the end there, but religious people could stand to be less narrowly fanatic and easily manipulated. “Christians” especially have strayed far into narcissistic territory, easily outraged over individual freedoms and little things that are none of their business.

    Although I am grateful to this site for the increasingly rare opportunity to comment without being tracked, traced, and twittered or facebooked by every social network intent upon stealing back the internet for the bad guys, there is a downside to this lack of trendiness. People on this site act as if the internet is some new thing, not a part of everyday life (thanks to Steve Jobs for the PERSONAL computer, and again for the Web’s conception and it’s first server) that gives you power that was hitherto monopolized by various oppressive authorities. You can quickly discover by using almost any search engine, even one that you have coded or created yourself, that there are several psychopathic liars in leading positions at the University of Pennsylvania, particularly at it’s medical school and in the “health” sciences. Of course, nowadays the public may be focused on Penn’s sports programs and other areas.

    Do you not know that the notorious Dr. Offit is there at Penn, albeit probably not right in Hershey, claiming to be a humanitarian vaccinologist? Since narcissistic personalities feel that any contradiction of their views are personal attacks, upon which they project the typical defense of “ad hominem”, it should be stated that their personalities are relevant here. This is the man, along with a now convicted felon Poul Thorsen and admitted heroin addict (relevant and not ad hominem) Seth Mnookin (whose medical knowledge is nothing by comparison to the doctors he deigns to attack ad hominem), used every kind of sociopathic power game and projection of their own evil personalities to ruin doctors who suggest that vaccination of infants needs further safety studies, or that mass vaccination schemes may be excessive, particularly for decidedly overhyped “pandemics” and other profitable figments of brainwashed doctors fevered and fearful imaginations. Of course Dr. Offit, not to mention his criminal associates, profits in the tens of millions from these vaccination drives. This is also relevant and not to be dismissed as “ad hominem”. The family in the article had managed to find, on the poor advice of midwives, the one worst place to take a home birthed child, and were then punished by the hive of hospital authorities for the ignorant midwives’ mistake.

    Oh, and let us not ignore the likes of Dr. Emanuel, also at Penn, who pushes the idea that people with certain diseases, or past a specific age, should just die. Even if they could be successfully and economically treated with what has become non-standard procedure, Dr. Emanuel advocates prohibiting access. Those useless people over a certain age, i.e. past retirement and with insurance exhausted by modern medical thievery, should just die, even from curable diseases, because our overpriced sickcare system is not getting enough money off of them to cover expensive ongoing superficial treatment of symptoms. Symptomatic treatment means “pain management” until you run out of money, then they “humanely” execute you by terminating any effective health support and denying any access to more economical and successful alternatives. Dr. Emanuel recommends that our “precious health resources” be limited to a chosen few. Dr. Emanuel is not concerned with the trillions expended blowing up hospitals and killing medical personnel overseas rather than building our medical resources and ethical medical industries. That would detract from his assumptions at the base of his healthcare allocation schemes.

    So don’t be so stupid. And yes, Dr. Offit is intimately connected with Merck and the people who created the hepatitis vaccine that spread HIV among several carefully targeted populations, particularly the best, healthiest and most activist of gay men. Dr. Offit’s professorship is funded by Merck as the Maurice Hilleman Chair, named after the guy who lead the creation of the Hepatitis vaccine, including recruiting the most altruistic gay health activists to volunteer as test subjects. Only truly clueless (Christian? bigots, but I repeat myself) homebirthing homeschoolers would have ever chosen any medical facility of Penn’s to send these poor parents to. The midwives should be severely excoriated and banned for ever doing so. But perhaps this is some small part of Divine Justice for Christians’ failing God’s AIDS test during the Reagan days. Ah yes, Peace Be Upon Him (PBUH), the American Taliban’s Holy Choice.

    Perhaps Merck could fund the private prison where the fan(atic)s and surviving associates of a crypto-Nazi like Hilleman should be “chaired”. Perhaps a postwar refugee, protectively self-designated so-called “Jew”, who did typhoid “vaccine research” infecting real Jewish victims in the death camps should have had another kind of chair to honor his memory. By the way, has Offit been subjected to all the doses he advocates so passionately for everyone else? A few hundred large injections of the standard version of all the vaccines he advocates in his “humanitarian” efforts (see his work with Bill Gates too) and scaled up for his body weight and age, in public without his associates to cheat on the doses, and recorded on film or video, should do to prove how harmless it all is. Of course there is no way a true criminal personality could be trusted not to find a way to cheat to accomplish the desired effect. Honesty is just not in him.

    This being said, report the social worker, if not the rest of them, to the appropriate authorities. Hospital workers and state workers abusing children should be reportable to some part of protective services, but beware. Check the entity’s track record first and be wary of any bad attitude from them detectable over the telephone. Anonymous reporting might be better in that case. At the very least the social worker at Penn has not been adequately trained at executing the overall game plan. She should be disciplined for power-tripping beyond her assigned role and retrained to at least give a better show of respecting parent’s best wishes for their children. I’ve had these narcissistic power-tripping psychopaths demoted to beginning trainee and put on probation and close supervision if they want to keep their career. Of course it might be recommended that she be terminated and never able to work in any related field or medical situation ever again. Narcissistic personalities do not learn very well and will do it again, only worse, to prove that they were right the first time. A test for narcissism would be to check for a real sense of humor about themselves. Narcissists do not have the grace to sincerely laugh at their own foibles or correct their own mistakes.

    So, to discipline the social worker, doesn’t Pennsylvania have any responsive “conservative” politicians that would like to look more convincingly “pro-family” by the next election, and not by just distracting the stupider kind of voters with their basically murder-the-Gays “agenda”? (The hymn “Bringing in the Sheaves” comes to mind, but with the words of Reagan’s newer kind of politically handy “Christian”, “killing all the, we shall be rejoicing …”.) Isn’t that what “Christians” have become all about anymore? No wonder social research shows the kids are choosing atheism. Young people say they just can’t get with the hate agenda, and the Christian lies about “love” just don’t cut it.

    I heard that one’s “likeability” is increased by being brutally honest. I wouldn’t know, but it doesn’t have to be stupid, and I hope you can forgive me for wordiness in the comment section, and lack of editing. There just seems to be so much that need be said, so I’m grateful for all the good comments here. Don’t make me do all the work.

    1. I will be brief, but I would kindly like to remind you that Christians might have a few gay haters and uneducated narcissistic freaks, but hardly should be stereotyped for what should be considered separate issues that really implicates a portion of the population religious or not. I believe conditions such as these fall under every category of peoples. I do appreciate the heads up about the vaccinations and their proliferation of them. It just bothers me that so many people scrutinize a class or group for something that really does not represent the entire group. Don’t you think that Christians have murdered, killed, raped, stole, cheated, changed there sex, became gay? All is true. They are people not perfect who believe in God and God’s forgiveness. Guess what? I do not believe in any particular religion but I believe in fairness and the freedom to choose any religion. And as an objective person I feel that the Christians are ostracized a little too much these days and it is really getting old!

      1. celeste, A Texan view was was giving “a Texan view.” I understand where both of you are coming from. My husband and I are both from very old Texas families. We were both born and raised there and our families are still there (@ some point, I may have to change my handle to Angel-TX).
        A Texan view’s description of the Majority of today’s Texas Christians is quite correct. I could certainly expound in depth, but in a nutshell, they (especially the Leaders) are hypocritical and extremely intolerant (my personal beliefs run closer to yours). Of course there are a few exceptions, but they are very few and very far between. In the last 30 years, I’ve found the change in mentality and agenda of the overwhelming majority of Texas Christians to be scary and (IMHO) disgusting. That’s just the way it is. Glad you live in a more open-minded place. 🙂

  27. Also, for anyone interested, try looking at the line you sign your name on in your personal checkbooks with a magnifying glass. It looks like any other line on the check, but on close inspection, it’s actually very tiny words. Hence the saying “read the fine print”. Let us know what you see, anyone. It’s just one more aspect of the corporate fiction concept, albeit one that’s actually visible.(somewhat)

  28. Im surprised more fathers dont return to the hospital armed in situations like this and make a violent and public statement that baby snatching is not ok.

  29. The proper way is to calmly tell them you will not allow your baby to take the Hep B shot. It is blood borne and sexually transmitted, so unless your baby is going to be shooting heroin/sharing needles/having sex, there is absolutely no reason to give a vaccine to a newborn. Tell them you plan to give it to them when they are older. Stay calm. Do not become argumentative, no better way to trigger a civil servant than to argue with them. If CPS shows up stay calm, say nothing, tell them you are represented and call an attorney immediately. If you really want to be proactive contact an attorney prior to giving birth and draft and sign your parental objections prior. That social worker completely crossed the line, however, we don’t know how the mother was behaving and at times our behavior can exacerbate this kind of situation. Either way, if I were that mother I would sue the shit out of everybody.

    1. These people are f-king criminals. We don’t beg for what is ours by right and by law.
      Have a midwife deliver your child and if these loathsome c-ksuckers at any level try to interfere, blow their f-king heads off, and f-k your administrative admiralty esquire attorney, agent of the unlawful United States Corporation. Every one of these bastards are going to be hung by the neck until they are dead.
      They will never subjugate our people and take our country away from us.
      You don’t beg for your rights, you do as your ancestors did and enforce them at the barrel of a gun, as is your right and your duty within the ratified law of December 15, 1791.
      These f-king curs are too worthless to spit on.
      Never stay calm when somebody is trying to kill your child.

  30. When the flying f’g hell did “people” put the “courts” in charge of them and move the safety of their babies into the courts opinion? What a f’d up line in the sand that SHIT is!!!!

    My apologies, Henry. This warranted full disclosure with capital letters. Just absolutely infuriating and mind boggling.

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