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SELCO: What to Do If Unwanted People Show Up at Your Door When the SHTF

The Organic Prepper – by Selco

We all have worries about people that will show up at our doorstep when SHTF.

I am thinking here about family members or friends that we know will be problematic when they show up. Either they are complete burdens without any real values in a truly hard situation or they might even possibly be a danger for us. 

So what do we do with those folks?

What do they mean to us?

If they are friends, and they are not worth taking in when they show up then they are probably not real friends to you. If they are family then the situation is a bit different, because for family, it is often worth the effort to try to make something “useful” from them. SHTF makes bonds stronger and more important, and usually there, is no stronger bond than your own blood.

But again, it is the thing of mentality and it may be different in different part of the world.

What does reality look like?

When it comes to SHTF and what we expect, it almost always looks a bit different than we imagined it.

It is like that with the kind of people we are gonna cooperate and maybe live with when SHTF.

During our physical courses, we have different types of people as a students, and often on a course, we have at least one student who is completely different from the majority.

Let’s say we have 5 students who are in good shape, physically in good condition, or skilled.

And then we have at least one who is out of shape or a bit less skilled. Or a student who is stubborn, or wants to play on his own.

And then, since we play a lot with group dynamics, we have students in situations where they are saying to us things like: “We can not finish the task, or be brilliant at the task because of that guy, his poor perfomance (or bad shape, or skills or no will to learn or whatever).”

We as a instructors say to the students, “Then imagine that person is a your father, mother, or that when SHTF your girlfriend shows up at your door with her old aunt. Are you are going to shoot them or learn to operate with them?”.

Almost always, they as a group find a solution to operate as a group, and what is even more important that person too learns their own value just like their own imperfections.

It is reality.

You will cooperate with people who you love or hate, or people who slow you down, but you will have to manage that somehow. 

Why are they going to show up?

The first and easiest step in solving this problem of not wanting people on your doorstep is to start from this: “Why will they want to show up?”

  • Do you pose yourself over the years as a secure place to them if something serious happens?
  • Do you “paint” yourself as a person who definitely knows what to do if the world as we know it were to suddenly collapse?
  • Or do you drag that person along by helping to him all his life, even if you clearly know that person does not deserve it, so you know if something really bad happen that person going to look for you immediately?
  • Is it simply a matter of good old lack of OPSEC, because over the years you keep talking to that person that he (or she) needs to get it together and start to prepare because bad things are coming, and you show him how well prepared you are as an example?

Whichever answer might be, if you do not want this person to show up. it is probably best to solve that now, and not when SHTF. If you do not want that person with you now it is time to cut all connections and to make that clear to him.

Keep in mind this simple advice through an example of myself:

I also have some worries about people showing up on my doorstep, but very small worries.

Why?

Because as far as they know, I am not prepared, I am scared too, I do not know anything about survival, I follow media, I am brainwashed. When the SHTF, I will be scared, confused, and I will look in all directions for help.

At least all this is the picture that I paint about myself. This is part of being the gray man.

Those who are important to me know my capabilities. Everybody else is probably worried that I might show up on THEIR doorstep, because that’s me, just an ordinary sheep.

“But they WILL show up.”

Yes, I know. This is the real world we are talking about here and of course, some people might still show up.

Friends you like but who are useless, members of the family that are awful but they are family and you are their only help, etc.

By the mere fact that they showing up at your doorstep you are in a situation where you need to decide:

  1.  Are you going to refuse him and make a possible enemy of him, especially if he knows your survival preparations?
  2. Will you accept him and put yourself at risk of possible problems because that person is not reliable, not skilled, dangerous, or because of whatever reason?

Refusing the person might be the solution, but you need to factor in things like how bad situation is around you and how much your personal preparations that person knows about. For example, if there is a complete absence of law and that person knows you are a prepper and have good stuff with you and you refuse him, guess what happens?

That person become your enemy at a time where there is no law, and you have cool stuff with you.

That person becomes your enemy with information about where some good stuff is.

In a drastic situation (complete SHTF), refusing the person who has a lot of info about you may be a situation where you need to “terminate” that person.

During drastic situations, be ready for drastic measures.

In most of the other less drastic situations (collapses, SHTFs) mostly feelings are only things that are going to be hurt, and you should not worry about it if you have kids to feed or more important and closer people then that person who shows up.

On the other hand, accepting the person that you do not really want to have with you wh SHTF, because of whatever reason, may work in your favor if you cover two things in the correct way: group and leadership.

This is another example where you can see how important is to have an organized group when the SHTF, or in other words, you can not be alone.

By accepting a not-so-wanted person inside an already organized group where each member has and knows his duties and responsibilities, you are by default pushing that person to meld into the organisation.

If you are alone it is hard to control that person.

And it does not need to be ultra hard core survivalist group of 15 armed men, that is not necessary.

Just a group of people with already-known skills, duties, and responsibilities…

Do not be alone.

Correct leadership is other thing that will help you a lot when undesirable persons are staying with you.

I am not talking here about democracy. Sorry folks, but real democraty does not work very well in situations like this.

If you are a strong leader of your group, you have the skills to set the rules and to make the people obey the rules. If you do not have those skills, someone else will.

With correct leadership within a group, the person who shows up suddenly and does not want to contribute in the right way can be “pushed” to contribute. 

Strength in numbers

With all the combined things above, you need to keep in mind that when SHTF strength is usually in numbers.

So, even if you think there is no use of some person who shows up on your doorstep, think hard. Is there actually a use for them, and do you have skills and force to implement that use of the person?

I would like to have skiled persons with me when SHTF, but often it is more important to have people that can be trusted (even if they have no skills) so you need to think about it on that way too.

Also, there are many uses of people besides hardcore survival stuff. I survived some of the hardest situations with people whose only skill was to talk, and I appreciated that skill a lot.

The Organic Prepper

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7 Responses to SELCO: What to Do If Unwanted People Show Up at Your Door When the SHTF

  1. Jolly Roger says:

    “I can’t feed the planet, and that’s why I told you to prepare for this many years ago”.

    “If you ignored my dire warnings for all these years, you obviously think I’m some kind of an idiot, so go away and enact your own plan for dealing with this situation because it must be better than mine”.

    “Yes, I do have food to eat, but what I have a lot more of is work that needs to be done, so don’t think you’re here to retire”.

  2. Martist says:

    In today’s current “see something, snitch something” zionist created mindset, they already ARE dangerous. Distance between them as of yesterday is already crucial. It takes one sentence, from you or them, to force you into an unwarranted, unlawful interaction or incarceration. Picking who stays or goes after the horse is out of the barn is a little late.

    • Freeillinois says:

      Martist; you used the key word, Snitch!

      All of these states passing these Red Flag laws are really nothing more than snitch laws. How many people want an anti-gunner in their group.

      Think about it

      Authorities show up at the door and offers food for guns and the snitch tells them where the guns are kept and in return you get some crackers and peanut butter left over from Vietnam.

      Make sure everyone in your group is of like mind.

  3. OKC koyote (super genius) says:

    THIS is the most cowardly “advice” I have ever read….”gray man”???
    LMAO!!!!!

  4. flee says:

    I would just treat them like Jehovah’s witnesses that used to wake me up in Vegas on Sunday.

    I’d Just turn the sprinkler system on for them.

    But they’re like plants and weeds.

    You have to keep watering them.

    • OKC koyote (super genius) says:

      Draw a chalk body outline on the sidewalk, and spread around a few watchtower pamphlets…

  5. Bluwater says:

    Wait until you cook your first meal when most have nothing.

    ‘Build it, and they will come’.

    And come they will….

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