VA Writes Letters to US Veterans: 2nd Amendment Rights Revoked Per 2013 NDAA

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Michael Connelly, executive director of the United States Foundation, says that US veterans are now receiving letters from the US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) regarding the disarmament of those former service men and women under the guise that they are in a questionable physical or mental condition because of their exposure to combat situations.

The letter goes on to say: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”

Without “specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency” the VA is determining that veterans are incompetent. Disregarding due process and the US Constitution, the VA has begun to disarm American citizens under their control.


In December of 2012, before President Obama signed the 2013 fiscal Year National Defenses Authorization Act (NDAA), the Senate, as part of a defense cuts proposal is an amendment to curb the rights of US veterans to access guns. Senator Tom Coburn would like for the veterans deemed “mentally incompetent” to have the Department of Veterans Affairs decide that they would have their 2nd Amendment rights revoked and not be able to purchase or possess firearms.

Coburn said to the Senate: “We’re not asking for anything big. We’re just saying that if you’re going to take away the Second Amendment rights … they ought to have it adjudicated, rather than mandated by someone who’s unqualified to state that they should lose their rights.”

The Coburn amendment #3109 states that in order “to protect the Second Amendment rights of veterans” they must be deemed mentally competent so they may retain their right to bear arms.

According to Chapter 55, Title 38 of the US Code (Section 5503): “In any case arising out of the administration by the Secretary of laws and benefits under this title, a person who is mentally incapacitated, deemed mentally incompetent, or experiencing an extended loss of consciousness shall not be considered adjudicated as a mental defective under subsection (d)(4) or (g)(4) of section 922 of title 18 without the order or finding of a judge, magistrate, or other judicial authority of competent jurisdiction that such person is a danger to himself or herself or others.”

This amendment is part of a package of additions to the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

Coburn said to the Senate: “We’re not asking for anything big. We’re just saying that if you’re going to take away the Second Amendment rights — they ought to have it adjudicated, rather than mandated by someone who’s unqualified to state that they should lose their rights.”

Senator Charles Schumer retorted: “I love our veterans; I vote for them all the time, they defend us. But if you are mentally ill, whether you’re a veteran or not, just like if you’re a felon, if you’re a veteran or not, and you have been judged to be mentally infirm, you should not have a gun.”

In 2011, Senator Richard Burr introduced The Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act that mirrors the assertions of Coburn with respect to restricting the rights of veterans to their 2nd Amendment based on mental health.

Coburn explained that veterans returning to society may “have their day in court if you are going to take away a fundamental right given under the Constitution” yet downplayed the 2nd Amendment as not inherent.

Dan Gross, president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence pointed out that veterans that could not “manage their own affairs” due to a “disability” and are “deemed unable to handle [their] own affairs . . . likely constitute[ed] a high percentage of people who are dangerously mentally ill.”

The Department of Veterans Affairs released a study that found nearly 250,000 returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan were diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and could become violent and a danger to society.

Last year, Obama signed an executive order (EO) entitled, “Improving Access to Mental Health Services for Veterans, Service Members, and Military Families” with the supposed focus on strengthening “support for the emotional and mental health needs of our service members and their families.”

In this EO, Obama takes control over the evaluation of the mental health of our returning service men and women by providing US government controlled “effective mental health services for veterans, service members, and their families.” Obama is authorizing the coordination of the Departments of Veterans and the Department of Defense (DoD), as well as the Departments of Veterans Affairs (VA) and Defense to “transition” veterans back into “civilian life”.

Keeping in line with touting all veterans as mentally defective, substance abusers and suicidal, Obama demands that the VA and the DoD collaborate to provide proactive measures and a psychiatric pre-screen of returning service men and women to prevent erratic behavior. The DoD will “review all existing mental health and substance abuse prevention, education and outreach programs” within the military services and access their effectiveness.

During a private “roundtable” discussion at Fort Bliss in Texas, Obama met with members of the military and addressed active duty troops. The Obama administration’s focus is on identifying and “providing additional support” to soldiers who have been diagnosed with “post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injuries (TBI)”.

Previously, the DoD have come out publicly to state that US veterans suffering from TBI and chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) are considered potentially violent and dangerous.

Doctors for the DoD claim CTE is an incurable disease soldiers may develop after having injured their brain in battle. CTE is explained as causing large bursts of anger and depression while having their vital motor skills and memory impacted; as well as being degenerative of whose effects can manifest themselves days, months or years after the initial trauma.

The DoD is tracking soldiers diagnosed with TBI/CTE because, according to the US government agency, they may display personality changes that could come on without warning and effect their ability to acclimate back into American society.

At Fort Detrick and Fort Bragg, in conjunction with the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the US military is conducting clinical trials on 2,000 solders to create a medical screen to detect a person’s propensity toward TBI/CTE by measuring biomarkers.

The Obama administration devised a report in 2011 entitled “Strengthening Our Military Families” that focuses on the mental stability of our US service men and women. It questions whether or not their exposure to battlefield conditions, TBI/CTE, and diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder (PSTD) is causing them to be a potential danger to society. Hidden under bureaucracy of promising to develop governmental systems to aid veterans, the document is directed at identifying all veteran’s potential to become mentally incapacitated due to some psychiatric disorder which would cause them to become violent, depressed, aggressive and inevitably dangerous to society.

The EO also allocates the US government-sponsored use of local community mental health clinics, community health centers, substance abuse treatment facilities, and rural health clinics to assist the DoD in identifying veterans who may be suffering from mental illness and would therefore have federal agencies working with private sector health providers to ensure veterans get the psychiatric help they need in “a timely way”. Obama has ordered 15 “pilot projects” to be established to create an integrated mental health system wherein the DoD would have complete oversight. The DoD would also be at the liberty of defining the parameters of the objective need of mental healthcare of veterans.

The Secretary of Veterans Affairs (SVA) will employ 800 peer counselors by 2013 that will be controlled and disseminated by the DoD under directives of the SVA. Collaborative tools and monetary oversight will remain with the SVA as an estimate 1,600 mental healthcare workers is expected to be needed to deal with the issue of mentally ill veterans nationally.

A National Research Action Plan will be established by May of 2013 that will be sponsored by the US government to use biomarkers for “early diagnosis and treatment” of veterans who tested positive for a propensity toward TBI/CTE. Obama wants to integrate electronic data sharing of information about veterans and their predetermined mental status between federal agencies, academia and state-sponsored research facilities to create pharmaceutical and psychiatric answers to this supposed burgeoning problem.

The goal of the Obama administration is to devise a “comprehensive longitudinal mental health study with an emphasis on PTSD, TBI, and related injuries” to identify mental health issues in veterans and enroll veterans in a long-term plan coordinated with the Department of Veteran Affairs which will be directed by the DoD.

The creation of a Task Force to advise Obama on how to deal with mental illness and veterans will be established within 180 days of the EO. This Task Force will alone define specific goals on how to best combat veterans alleged fall into mental illness with specific regard to TBI/CTE and post-traumatic stress disorder (PSTD).

The US government’s goal is to identify these veterans and label them with a progressive, unstable and degenerative disease so that they can refer them to mental hospitals for further evaluation and/or admittance.

13 thoughts on “VA Writes Letters to US Veterans: 2nd Amendment Rights Revoked Per 2013 NDAA

  1. My Fellow Veterans,

    We know why this is being done.

    We know there is only one outcome to this.

    Get ready,… stay frosty,… and watch for the signal that we have reached D-Day,.. Zero-hour.

    Good Luck My Fellow Veterans – We are the guardians of freedom and liberty for our country,.. and the world. Let us pray to God for the strength and courage we will need to face this monstrous evil that now besets our country,… and all the worlds people.

  2. Another gubberment “policy “that bit em in the backside,alieanating and infuriating how many tens of thousands of already misled into a war based on lies these same vets, maybe they really are as inept ,stupid and incompatent as they seem. How can any single corporation destroy every thing it touches,its almost comical, like watching a dangerous three stooges movie.

  3. It has nothing to do with mental health, but everything to do with freedom. The whole “health care” scheme was devised to take everyone’s freedom and allow the government control over its “biological resources.” Veterans are experienced and have an idea of what is coming. You are a threat, because you swore to protect those they plan to kill and have proven you will put your life on the line to do it.

  4. Last I checked, there was no law against the people that Obama has not disarmed yet keeping an extra gun for their veteran buddy. The vet could even pay for it.

    Broadly, I wonder how many are affected by this? Is there a site where they can meet each other, network, and put up a sensible legal defense?

    1. Hi Joe,

      1) Thank you for your thoughts and support.

      2) Legal defense is a complete waste of time and resources, the Courts, Congress and White House are corrupted beyond repair, and this strategy would be rlying on the very people, agencies and parts of government seeking to destroy your Rights.

      3) The method you suggest of buying firearms is called a “Straw Deal”. Although ALL the tennets of federal gun laws are actually unConstitutional, our treasonous Fed Gov’t does not have the power of legality, but it does wield the power of coercion.

      As such, anyone advocating a “Straw-Deal” (openly anyway) is subject to arrest and removal of their firearms as well. It is best to not post any such opinion.

      I would suggest the following however:

      People who know veterans, or person who have had their Right to firearms stolen by this government, may, in a time of necessity, may be looking to utilize firearm type items when this tyrannical gov’t pushes the American people to confrontation. At that point in time, what a private seller, and a private buyer does is of little consequence.

      Keep this in mind – When this “Enemy Force In Occupation”, called the US Fed Gov’t decides to push for the final disarmament, it will be shortly after that, that open confrontation will ensue. At this time, EVERY American will make a decision, and when they decide they have had enough, and point a firearm, or any weapon at any form of gov’t official,… they have gone,.. “All-In”.

      From that point forward, the gov’t will be viewing all such persons with one of two objectives in mind:

      1) Kill them with overwhelming and brtual force (make an example out of them to cow all others into submission)

      2) Capture and incarcerate while making a public spectacle of it to cow all others into submission.

      THEN,.. after disarmament,.. the culling of the herd can begin.

      So you see,..either way, you will be dead,.. unless Americans fight to win,…. and we will.

      JD – US Marines – Courage by the American people is not dead,.. it just took a little nap, and is starting to wake up Riiiiggghhhtttt now!

      1. Nice post JD.
        Like I always have said…Who is going to fight harder…those who think they have everything, or those that know they have nothing?

        ~Blessed Be to all~

  5. Justice and Victory belong to the Righteous. All Vengence with NO QUARTER given will win the battles. They are weak and will be destroyed by their own wickedness and they know it!

  6. They work on percentages. They’ll pass a law every week and hope people comply, and hope they’ve disarmed another small percentage of the people.

    What vet is going to surrender his guns right now? As soon as this law is passed a hundred thousand vets will be hiding their rifles underground, in their friend’s house, in Mom’s attic, etc. etc.

    This nonsense is going to disarm absolutely no one. Keep dreaming, Feinstein.

      1. Hey #1 Saw/read your post on LA living and been there done the rat race thing.I would have responded sooner but a guy came by needing a plow fixed and since thats what I do had to knock out a job ,myreal interest lies in building old mopars but have to make a couple bucks when you can but old hotrods really turn my crank ,I live a simple life eating most my own food canned by me ( you name it, its in the basement from applebutter to spaghetti sauce) and of couse meats beef, pork ,deer (my deer jerky is damn near world famous no brag juset fact)and the wife but still go to town for the basics. anyway good to meet ya .

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