Armed for War: Pentagon surplus gives local police an edge

Fox 59 – by Russ McQuaid

As the American military draws down its commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan, stateside ports, armories, depots and warehouses are packed with excess military material and vehicles, some of them none-the-worse from their tours in overseas war zones.

A lot of those weapons, uniforms, trucks and mine-resistant vehicles are patrolling the streets of central Indiana at virtually no cost to local law enforcement agencies.  

“It saves a substantial amount of money,” said Steve Harless, deputy commissioner of the Indiana Department of Administration. “Last year alone we saved approximately $14 million and this year we’re on pace to save a little over $13 million.”

That’s millions of tax dollars saved by 326 Indiana sheriffs and police chiefs who otherwise could not afford the gear they say they need to protect the public from increasingly heavily armored criminals.

“When I first started we really didn’t have the violence that we see today,” said Sgt. Dan Downing of the Morgan County Sheriff’s Department. “The weaponry is totally different now that it was in the beginning of my career, plus, you have a lot of people who are coming out of the military that have the ability and knowledge to build IEDs and to defeat law enforcement techniques.”

As he spoke, Downing was perched in the driver’s seat of a $650,000 Mine Resistant Vehicle (MRAP) that once protected soldiers in Afghanistan from mines, rocket-propelled grenades and .50-caliber weapons.

The Morgan County SWAT Team acquired the armored vehicle for essentially the cost of gas and the time of two deputies to drive to Mississippi and pick it up and bring it back home to Martinsville.

“We were actually approached when we’d stop to get fuel by people wanting to know why we needed this…what were we going to use it for? ‘Are you coming to take our guns away?’” said Downing. “To come and take away their firearms…that absolutely is not the reason why we go this vehicle. We got this vehicle because of the need and because of increased violence that we have been facing over the last few years.

“I’ll be the last person to come and take anybody’s guns.”

Downing said his department could have used such a vehicle when it responded to a barricaded gunman during a SWAT call out in 2011, or when it was faced with removing children from a Martinsville middle school during a shooting earlier that spring.

All police chiefs got a wakeup call in late February 1997 when two men dressed in body armor and carrying automatic weapons robbed a North Hollywood, Calif., bank and engaged in a shootout with police. The high-powered weapons of the LAPD SWAT Team were locked up in the armory of the department’s training academy. Officers literally took weapons off the walls of local gun stores to arm themselves against the gunmen.

“If we go to a bank robbery, let’s say, and we’re armed with our sidearm, we’re going to be outgunned,” said Franklin Police Chief Tim O’Sullivan who has acquired several M-16 rifles from the Pentagon 1033 surplus program. “And so we’re trying to be proactive and not try to be scary but we need to be as well-equipped as the bad guys sometimes, so…if they’re going to be having an assault rifle, we better have an assault rifle.”

O’Sullivan says every officer in his department has been issued an M-16, some of them from the military surplus. His officers advised military and state officials of the status and whereabouts of the weapons several times a year to protect against theft and misuse.

“You have quarterly checks and once a year you have to do the Memorandum of Understanding and a physical check once a year and then quarterly checks.”

When the weapons reach the end of their product life, they are returned to the military.

Georgia Congressman Hank Johnson may unveil legislation next month to better track the military gear and restrict the program. Several southern law enforcement programs were investigated for excessive and disproportionate participation in the program, essentially applying for and receiving items that are unsuited for their mission.

“We get requests on a daily basis and verify what their requests are and that they actually need those items and then we approve those requests or deny them based on their eligibility,” said Harless of the Indiana program.

Not all the military surplus is lethal. The Cumberland Police Department has a pickup truck, a Humvee and an ATV that it acquired through the program, along with a handful of rifles and some clothing.

“We’ve been able to get a lot of other vehicles and equipment through the program and for small departments, especially it’s a really a big benefit to us to be able to do that,” said Cumberland Police Chief Mike Crooke. “You don’t use it daily but when you need it, it’s really good to have it.”

The Law Enforcement Support Office estimates it has transferred $4.3 billion worth of military property to local and state agencies since its inception in 1990. Much of this is gear that observers say would be scrapped, stored or transferred to foreign governments if not reused by the military.

“At the end of the day, it gives the guys the ability to go home safely,” said Downing, “So, no matter what the price tag is on it, as long as they get to go home, that’s all that really matters.”

 

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7 thoughts on “Armed for War: Pentagon surplus gives local police an edge

  1. I could go into a complete (with historical citations) 12 page dissertation of the fallicies laced (used as support for BS that won’t fly on its own) within this article – or the startling incompetence [ignorance+malfeasence on steriods] of the purported author (it may not be really McQuaid) – but, suffice my humble opinion to be reduced to one word: Bullshit

  2. That’s millions of tax dollars saved by 326 Indiana sheriffs and police chiefs who otherwise could not afford the gear they say they need to protect the public from increasingly heavily armored criminals. That’s the BS that the cops are spewing to justify their using this type of equipment on the citizens in the form of no knock raids and other forms of tyranny they engage in with impunity. The cops view the nation now as their own private war zone and their criminal behavior only re enforce that fact everyday across this nation.

  3. I can`t wait untill they get RPGs , or Stinger missiles !! Like taking candy from a baby !!!! Start the ball Tector !!!!!

  4. ” “It saves a substantial amount of money,” said Steve Harless, deputy commissioner of the Indiana Department of Administration. “Last year alone we saved approximately $14 million and this year we’re on pace to save a little over $13 million.”

    That’s millions of tax dollars saved by 326 Indiana sheriffs and police chiefs who otherwise could not afford the gear they say they need to protect the public from increasingly heavily armored criminals. ”

    AHAHAHA a d student at a public common core education center.
    If you dont have the money to buy in the first place you are not “saving” money by getting gifted something. And those “millions of tax dollars” where spent… so there is no SAVINGS YOU STUPID F%#$%^#.

    Try this..
    “These vehicles and gear would normally be sold off at auction. So no metal scrap for the steal industry and no discount “camping and hunting gear” for the everyman. And the people who paid for the stuff got no say because they are slaves.”
    -that about does it.

  5. “I’ll be the last person to come and take anybody’s guns.”

    You’d be killed just as quick as the first if you tried.

  6. I see something goofy in that picture of the guy holding the gun ( think its an AR-15 or could be M4?)

    anyway
    why would you have an optic site behind the carry handle in the field of view thru that site? its an obstruction to the site, plus the site radius would be greatly reduced and affect the site accuracy in any long distance targeting..

    looks stupid, and useless, plus the front site would probably show up in the field of view thru the optic site..it just looks silly

    maybe it dont matter to a cop, they just spray and pray anyways, they show they cant hit the broad side of a barn anyways..this would give me reason to show why that is

  7. giving this stuff to street cops is how this stuff is going to “fall” into the hands of Mr. criminal..or just average citizen when it gets taken from pussy cops .. how many times have you heard of cop cars getting stolen or broken into?

    bring on the stupidity

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