Published on May 24, 2016 by David Vose
It is illegal to fly the Mexican flag, or any other, above the U S Flag. Well, in Reno Nevada, a Latino Community did just that. What happened next wasn’t what they thought would happen. A Vet found out about it. What he did made many American’s proud. It upset some Mexicans.
There used to be Flag Etiquette lessons when this geezer went to school, backwards, uphill both ways in year round blizzards, back in the day. Why, even my dear departed older brother nearly got beat up in 1968 for flying the flag upside down. The VFW made the sheriff threaten jail time if he did not stop desecrating the flag. In truth, he was only expressing an opinion, that being that the country is in trouble, but he was not a mariner so I guess it didn’t count.
Alright! Now here’s one of those vets Henry spoke of today in light of “where are they.”
He wasn’t at a rally, but he did the absolute and coolest thing I’ve seen in a while.
Short of gettin’ the aluminum bat out, that was pretty cool.
I’m surprised we don’t see a gay rainbow flag flying above the US flag at the white-house.
I’m Darzak, and I approve his message.
This veteran didn’t “organize a protest against the business”, he didn’t “write to his ‘representatives’ in Congress”, he didn’t post a YouTube video or whine about it on talk radio or on the Internet, he took action. I thought leaving the Mexican flag on the ground was a nice touch. I also loved how the cowardly cockroach scurried back into his hiding place. It will be no different when American Nationals finally stand up and restore the Republic.
An accidental fire at the business would be nice!
I’m gonna go against the grain here and call that a classic example of patriotardism.
The Mexican flag can be used as toilet paper for all I care. But you know what? So can the US flag. It’s a tool of Pavlovian mind control, used to elicit emotions that ensure loyalty to one’s “country” (i.e., the ruling oligarchy) and encourage people to join its mercenary forces. What does the US flag even symbolize anymore, other than endless war, Orwellian surveillance, corruption, hypocrisy, betrayal, and lies?
That video shows just another vet who has been conditioned to have strong homosexual feelings for “our” piece of colored cloth. He obviously doesn’t give a hoot about private property rights or free expression. (Regardless of what’s “illegal,” people have the RIGHT to do whatever they want with their flags, US or otherwise.) He’s proud to have served the tyrannical US government that’s destroying our freedom, and now he just served it again in a small way.
I’m not saying Mexicans should be allowed to flood into this country. But principles matter, and as long as any of them are here, their expression should be just as protected as my right to say that trannies and faggots are repulsive. No one has the right to not be offended by mere speech or expression — including us. When people express opinions we don’t like, the way to deal with that is to talk back and tell them why they’re wrong, stupid, obnoxious, or whatever.
In short: screw the flag, protect the Bill of Rights. When that vet in the video decides to do the latter in accordance with his oath, rather than worrying about flags, then that will be noteworthy.
I disagree with you. The American flag is more than a piece of cloth. It is an international marker of territory and jurisdiction and putting it beneath the Mexican flag is an act of war that declares Mexico the owner of the property it marks. Under that Mexican flag, that mother f#@ker has only one right in these sovereign United States and that is to be put up against the wall and shot as the foreign invader he is.
How could you possibly declare some kind of rights for these mother f#@kers under that Mexican flag in my country? Better rethink it, pal, because you couldn’t be further off base.
Well Henry, under the US flag, none of us have any rights at all.
No doubt you’re familiar with the NDAA and all the other ways “our” government rejects our Bill of Rights. As far as they’re concerned, the only “right” you and I have is to be assassinated, or perhaps imprisoned secretly without trial and tortured indefinitely. Everything else is considered a privilege that they can take from us on a whim.
Can this even be properly called the United States anymore? And whose jurisdiction is it under?
We are in DEEP crap in this country, sir. In fact, the fate of the world is at stake due to the psychopaths who are running things. Is it really a high priority for us to worry about protecting the symbol they’ve taken for themselves?
Now, we don’t disagree that Mexicans have no business being allowed to flood into this country, as I said earlier.
That flag, like our Bill of Rights, means what we say it means and what we will enforce with our guns.
I really don’t have time for this, but I’m not considering but what the world sees when they see the Mexican flag being flown above the American flag within our sovereign borders.
I’m with the vet, you’ve got to fight me. This is the problem. See how easily one American national with a pair hanging between his legs shut those two weasels down? This is an invasion and it is time we started treating it as such.
See my reply below for more, but I saw no indication that those Mexicans were in the country illegally. If I overlooked it somewhere, then fine — in that case they’re invaders and should be kicked out, REGARDLESS of what they’re doing with flags.
As for the Bill of Rights, you violate it any time you “protect” the flag from disrespect, just as surely as if you forbade criticism of the president or Congress because of the “dignity of their office.”
“But principles matter, and as long as any of them are here, their expression should be just as protected as my right to say that trannies and faggots are repulsive.”
I disagree. They have no protected expression, they are criminal felons. Same with the transgenders, they should have no protected status.
I take the Founders’ view that ALL people (yes, even those I find repulsive) have certain inalienable rights, and that these rights aren’t given to us by masters in government.
The Bill of Rights covers these pretty well. One such right is the free expression of opinion — even if others, or I personally, find it objectionable.
If government has the right to imprison someone for “desecrating” a flag because it offends people, then it has the right to lock you up for being “insensitive” to trannies, faggots, or Jews/Zionists because it offends people. Both positions are absolutely contrary to what America was meant to be.
Now, any Mexicans (or others) who are in this country illegally should be deported ASAP. Obviously we can’t have a territory that protects rights if any random joker, from any culture and belief system, can waltz into it. But anyone else in this land legally should be protected by the Bill of Rights. People should only lose rights in proportion to their denial of those rights to others.
Your theory is asinine and if followed to its root would say that when the Germans invaded France and raised their flag, the people should have accepted them as Frechmen and invited them to the voting booth.
The flag is covered under military law, you ass, and whether you realize it or not, what those two little pr#@ks were presenting was that they are in Mexico, hence, the protections of the United States would not apply.
In reality both could have been shot dead, right there in the street as foreign invaders, but then we haven’t lived in reality for a long time, have we?
Were the two Mexicans in the country illegally? Or were they INVITED in by “our” government? You know — the government of the CIA, NSA, FBI, DEA, DHS, DARPA, and all the rest of those enemies of our freedom? The ones who are controlled by the Zionist Jews who are pushing all this “diversity”? The ones who use that flag you love so much as their standard, and who WILL be wearing that flag if they come for you?
*** Your theory is asinine and if followed to its root would say that when the Germans invaded France and raised their flag, the people should have accepted them as Frechmen and invited them to the voting booth. ***
Where the hell do you get that from? I explicity said that anyone in this country illegally should be deported. Or did you fail to read my post before getting righteously indignant?
If you want to draw an analogy, it would be German people LEGALLY entering France, becoming French citizens, and then being entitled to any inalienable rights that the French CLAIM to protect. Of course, the French have no regard for protecting inalienable rights such as speech, but we’re talking hypotheticals.
If you don’t want Mexicans in the US at all, even legally, then that’s a separate issue. Personally, I don’t have much of a problem with the idea of white separatism anyway. Freedom of association and all that. But good luck getting that under the current system.
*** The flag is covered under military law, you ass…” ***
And I give a sh!t about military law because…?
The military is supposed to protect the Bill of Rights. Instead, it works for the enemies of the Bill of Rights. Big government. The police state. AIPAC. Crony capitalists. The people you cheerlead for every time you wave the flag they wear on their uniforms, pin on their lapels, and fly above their buildings. The people who would bust you in a heartbeat for possessing that weed you smoke, and who will possibly someday arrest you for having this blog. Yeah, they’re your allies. Spew your vitriol at freedom-lovers like me, not at them.
This hasn’t one goddamn thing to do with protecting the flag. This is INTERNATIONAL LAW of the flag, any and every flag. The flag at the top of the pole is the jurisdiction of the land beneath it, hence, according to this array, the property beneath the flag, under international law, is Mexico and under Mexican law there is no allowance for any rights for the peons who are ruled under it. And raising that flag over our sovereign land is an act of war.
Forget about the American flag except that the fact that the Mexican flag is on top declares superior jurisdiction over the flag beneath it, which is the flag that identifies the sovereign United States under international law.
This hasn’t a goddamn thing to do with expression. It has to do with sovereignty. And raising a foreign flag over any land in the United States is an absolute declaration of war.
That American flag, whether you like it or not, represents our sovereign boundaries and our law, as in our Bill of Rights. The display put forth says on that piece of property the Mexican law is in effect and our Bill of Rights is beneath it. That is not me, that is the internationally recognized law.
Okay, Henry, one more response from me on this. I’ll put it here because the software won’t let me reply directly to your last post.
First of all, if the Bill of Rights (or human rights in general) are ever in conflict with international law, then to hell with international law. Just throwing that out there.
Second, merely flying a flag does not establish actual sovereignty over any territory, regardless of what any law might say. If I fly an English flag over my yard, my yard does not magically become part of England.
In any event, I doubt those spics in the video were trying to “declare war.” I mean, come on — they were also flying a US flag, even if beneath a Mexican one. It might have been a disrespectful gesture for those who care about such things, but whatever. If they’re here illegally, then they need to leave, no matter what they do with any flag. Otherwise, the First Amendment says they can do as they please with their flags, short of harming someone else.
Now for the big point you’ve been missing: America has ALREADY been conquered! Though I and others may still often refer to this land as “the USA” and “America” for the sake of convenience, this is NOT the same country that Jefferson, Madison, et al. founded. That country was defined by the Bill of Rights, which is no longer in effect. Further, our traditional values, such as the concept of inalienable rights, are long forgotten by most.
What still binds us together as a nation? Nothing but living on the same dirt and being governed by the same murderous, power-mad oligarchy — an oligarchy consisting of Jewish supremacists, bankers, the MIC, and other wealthy special interests.
“Old Glory” no longer represents the Founders’ America OR the Bill of Rights. Only two kinds of people continue to display it: those who still don’t realize that America has been overthrown, and those who are part of the occupying force.
Therefore, you’ll pardon me if I can’t get upset about a couple of wetbacks flying flags the wrong way, or feel admiration toward some goof who threw a tantrum about it and now faces charges under the very same flag he defended. I tend to be a whole lot more concerned that we’re living in a homicidal police state that is determined to reduce us all to slaves. And it’s likely to succeed, judging by the way so many in this movement can’t even disagree with one another without making personal attacks and alienating those who should be steadfast allies.
The problem is, the Mexican flew it wrong on purpose. It wasn’t by mistake. So what is trying to say BMF?
He is saying F you, that’s what, if he wants to go down that road, he is going to taste gun metal, and experience large holes suddenly appearing on his body with lots of red fluid coming out of them.
Let me put it this way, Mark. Who is the greater threat to us: dwarfish Mexicans like those in the video, or “patriotic” government agents who fly US flags over their homes and their headquarters while trampling the Bill of Rights?
It reminds me of those black “professors” and others who’ve been quoted on occasion speaking about the need to “exterminate whites.” Pardon me while I yawn. They can talk about it all they want to, and they have the right to say what they want; it’s when they try to ACT on it that it will become my problem (and theirs).
Damn good points BMF, hard to argue with.
Thank you, sir. It brings me no pleasure to say these things, but I have to call it like I see it.
The problem with your “theories” BMF is that you believe and buy into the take-over, rather than stand your ground. “They” only win when “we” – American nationals believe their lies supercede our truth, e.g. the Common Law and the Bill of Rights.
It IS International Law governing where and how a flag is flown, and it DOES declare who has the territory. For example, every foreign embassy OWNS the land their embassy sits upon and that is why they can lawfully fly their flag. They own that land.
For these hispanic people to fly a US flag underneath a Mexican one denotes subjugation by the Mexican government over the US where (physically) this occurs. It doesn’t really matter whether you agree with that in principle or not, because that is the agreed upon law of the land, and has been for over 1000 years. AND it fits within the confines of Common Law which originated via the Magna Carta… and from which the Bill of Rights was fashioned.
Kitty, I believe you’ve misunderstood me. Yes, I maintain that America has been conquered from within, but that doesn’t mean the situation can’t be remedied. The “real US” may be long dead, and the government we have now doesn’t give a hoot about the Bill of Rights, but rights don’t come from governments anyway. We can still stand up for our rights even if the government doesn’t recognize them.
In the long term, I think the best we can hope for is some kind of breakup of the country into smaller territories, one or more of which can be rebuilt into something much closer to what America was originally meant to be.
Regarding your points about international law: I’m not a lawyer, but I suspect you and Henry are putting the cart before the horse. Yes, I’m aware of the protocols regarding embassies, etc. But as mentioned before, I don’t make my property into English territory simply by raising a UK flag outside my house. I think the proper interpretation is that FIRST a certain territory is designated the territory of country X, and THEN international law says that the flag of country X is properly used to label that territory.
Whatever the case, I consider the point about international law to be entirely moot. Laws are just words on paper. They don’t create reality, and no one is ever going to think that part of the US is actually Mexico just because someone raised a Mexican flag over it. What CAN make part of the US into Mexico is having too many Mexicans living there (even legally).
Again, though — does the flag issue really matter? Tyranny under a US flag is no better than tyranny under a Mexican flag. The flags flying over the buildings of the NSA, FBI, CIA, DEA, DHS, DARPA, and all other alphabet thugs are all those of the US, not Mexico. Should that make me feel any better?
I did not seek to insult you, but rather to educate. You seem to have already surrendered. The fact is there hasn’t even been a fight yet. If some Mexican walked up to me and declared this country is Mexico, I’d beat the dog shit out of him on the spot. Repeat a lie enough times and people tend to accept it as it becomes a fate accompli. This country is not conquered; otherwise we’d be disarmed and laying in a ditch with a bullet through our head. These foreign mother f#@kers have no right to expression or anything else in my country.
Why don’t you take an American flag as the piece of cloth you say it is down to Mexico and run it up a pole above the Mexican flag? I guarantee you the consequences would be harsh and that you would be prosecuted as an insurgent into that country.
If we do not enforce our sovereignty and our law, we lose. These foreigners have already invaded our country under the guise of some right to do so. This is about sovereignty. We are in a fight to determine who that sovereignty belongs to, us or any son of a bitch who wants to walk onto our sovereign property. Each country has boundaries and laws that are in effect within those boundaries. Our enemies are trying to redefine what those laws are. And the notion that some foreigner can raise a foreign national flag above ours is aiding in that theology.
You say international law does not matter? Well you are wrong. Laws are what maintain peace. They are barriers that define the ownership of real property and if they are violated on an international scale, you get international war because the peace is breached when the law is broken. International peace treaties under international law establish international peace.
I don’t care about the reasons of the man who cut down that flag. If this would have been an area squared off in the desert on US territory with that Mexican flag at the top of a pole and those two f#@king invaders would have been wearing kakis and toting guns, I guess you might have seen it different. The fact is, in our common law, there is a clause known as the fighting words doctrine. When these foreign nationals put their foreign flag above the national flag of this country, they breached the peace, as any American who would not defy an assertion that any part of our country belongs to Mexico, is not an American.
The international communists are telling us this country doesn’t belong to us, that we have no borders, that we have nothing. This is the fight and when it is put in our face like it was put in that American’s face, who happened to be a veteran, it is our duty to fight or are failing in acquiescing. And I don’t give a shit what you say, I know the law of the land we live in and that flag is not just a personal expression, it is an internationally recognized territorial marker based in international law.
You’ve taken up a lot of my time, which may be nothing to you, but I consider valuable. I will never give up so long as logic controls the thread. I think I’ve found a way to put this to you that you might understand.
You say the FBI, CIA, in short the insurgents, operate under that flag and that is true, but what you do not see is that the fight we are engaged in is essentially in defining what that flag means. Our enemies proclaim it is just a rag and that my country is just a whore that anyone can take a piece of, and that is what the flag represents. They would stand by gleefully and watch a foreigner grind it underfoot.
I proclaim that that flag represents my people’s Bill of Rights and my sovereign freedom and liberty and that it will never be conquered. There you have the fight.
What is your position? Is it a meaningless rag that any foreigner or internal enemy can piss on and destroy at will? Or is it the representation of our people and our rights that we will never cede?
*** You’ve taken up a lot of my time, which may be nothing to you, but I consider valuable. ***
I didn’t steal your time from you, Henry. You freely chose to have this discussion, as did I.
Please be advised that my time is also valuable. I work long hours, and not infrequently on weekends. So rest assured that I’m not trying to waste your time OR mine.
*** I did not seek to insult you, but rather to educate. ***
You did take a hostile tone from the start and quickly resorted to name-calling. Not that I’m crying about it — I’m a big boy and can take a few jabs. And this is your site; I’m only a guest here. But it was disappointing. I mean, you and I probably agree on 95% of issues, and you’re going to call me an ass? Really? If the fight to restore the Bill of Rights is to go anywhere, we need to strive for unity and deal with inevitable disagreements in a civil manner. I’m not easily offended by insults, but some people are, and we cannot afford to lose allies.
Anyway, we’ve been back and forth on this issue quite a lot already, so I’ll try to address your questions more generally rather than go point-by-point. After that, the last word is yours if you want it — I won’t post another reply to you here unless you ask me another question. Even then, we just might have to agree to disagree on some things.
*** You say the FBI, CIA, in short the insurgents, operate under that flag and that is true, but what you do not see is that the fight we are engaged in is essentially in defining what that flag means. … ***
And this is where our fundamental disagreement seems to arise.
My view is that the current US flag has been utterly defiled (if it was ever truly “pure”) by the sheer quantity and magnitude of the evil that has been committed beneath it for the better part of a CENTURY — evil that continues to this day unabated.
It’s not as if “our” government turned evil on us only recently and we’re hoping to reinstate deposed officials who were constitutional and benevolent. Those government officials and their jackboots are not really “insurgents” or an “occupying army” (as I’ve admittedly referred to them myself) but the LONG-ESTABLISHED government of this land. Granted that we have an unconstitutional government that lacks the consent of the governed, so therefore it lacks legitimacy. But we can’t claim this government and political system aren’t fully established and deeply entrenched.
Similarly, the association of the US flag with the US regime and its enforcers, as well as with any territory they rule through force, has been chiseled in granite over many decades. That flag has presided over the destruction of liberty, property, and many millions of innocent lives all around the globe for longer than you or I have been alive. Now, after years and years of relentless assaults on human rights and freedom, we’re going to claim that flag stands for the Bill of Rights?
When was the last time the Bill of Rights was even fully observed in this country? Has it ever been?
Going further, how often has anyone fought FOR the Bill of Rights, or anybody’s freedom, beneath that flag? How many US wars were fought for the benefit of humanity rather than geopolitical power, MIC profits, or Zionism?
Basically, what I’m asking is: WHY is it so important to stick with the US flag as a symbol of liberty when liberty has never been seriously defended under that flag, and when in fact the opposite is true?
(I won’t deny that the US has done some good in the world. What I will deny is that the good was done for the sake of goodness rather than for propaganda purposes, profit, or other ulterior motives.)
In conclusion, any attempt today to reclaim the US flag as a symbol of the Bill of Rights and freedom would be like a heterosexual pride movement adopting a rainbow flag as its symbol, or a human rights group adopting the swastika (as you’re probably aware, the swastika is an ancient symbol that long predates Nazi Germany). Once associations are made and sufficiently reinforced over time, trying to undo that process is akin to trying to stuff toothpaste back into its tube. To recognize this isn’t “surrendering.” The Bill of Rights, or at least the principles it sets forth, can still be defended vigorously. It just makes no sense to do so under a flag that been, and continues to be, invariably displayed by the enemies of the Bill of Rights and their apologists.
*** What is your position? Is it a meaningless rag that any foreigner or internal enemy can piss on and destroy at will? ***
It’s not meaningless. For me it symbolizes evil, as explained above. I also view it as a kind of cloth idol that serves as a focus for citizens’ worship of the Powers That Be. Witness how much more anger is generated, even among most Christians, when someone burns a flag than when some “artist” desecrates a cross.
*** Or is it the representation of our people and our rights that we will never cede? ***
It certainly doesn’t represent my rights. But I will never surrender those anyway — EVER — and I need no flag or symbol to remind me of that.
If others prefer to have a flag, that’s cool. I just think The Gadsden or the Moultrie flag would be MUCH more appropriate than the current flag that symbolizes our evil government in the eyes of the world (and in international law, for that matter).
Thank you for taking the time to read this and for allowing me to express my views.
BMF,
You come back at me with a condescending tone. You cannot compare your time with my time. I’ve been devoting my time to fighting for my people’s Bill of Rights for 35 years. My time has been spent in study, application of the knowledge gained, and the consequences of the application.
How much of your time have you spent in a jail cell as a documented political prisoner, or healing from beatings administered by those who refuse our rights?
I see you think yourself quite intelligent, as did I, which is why I actually thought you understood the subject matter of which we were engaged in.
I’ll try to make this as simple for you as I can.
The first United States Codes established prior to any takeover describes the VARIOUS United States flags. I have lived under and fought under the Title 4 USC 1 free flag of peace for the united States of the Americas. You won’t find this flag flying over FBI, CIA, DHS headquarters, nor will you find it flying over any military base or ship of war at sea. You won’t find it in the courtrooms of today, in fact when it makes a rare appearance, it is draped over the casket of a soldier, as all soldiers are returned to a state of peace as a final act.
My flag is of a different dimension than the national and military flags you see flown around this country. In fact when I fought the unlawful jurisdictions in the county, state, and common people’s courts, my wife had to sew the flag I took into court with me. It is the only flag I have ever captured a common law jurisdiction with. And when I captured that jurisdiction, I enjoyed absolute justice in that court that day. On the other occasions I was beaten, arrested, and jailed and I saw the faces of the enemy cringe like a wolf presented with bane at the very site of my flag.
You see it is not so much the piece of cloth, but the rather the intricacy of the law when it comes to flags. I promise you our enemies know the law of the flag, that though our flag is almost exactly like theirs, they hate our flag because the Title 4 USC 1 is a free flag of peace, is the lawful representation of the people’s Bill of Rights as it was inserted into the United States Codes to represent the people’s supreme authority. No flag flies above it, not even that national flag that was flying beneath that Mexican flag. There is no gold ball or gold eagle that can set above it without violating the code. I have seen it with my own eyes when I forced my flag in, they took theirs down. They had to as they had no choice because to do otherwise is a deliberate act of absolute treason.
Read Title 4 USC 1 and understand the differences in the flags. You can order a Title 4 USC 1 free flag of peace and you might like to see how people react when one goes up the pole on your property with nothing above it but the sky, as this is a declaration that that property is under the common law and that all persons upon it are fully endowed with their rights.
You see, it wasn’t the Mexican flag flying above that national flag that was the problem. It was that it was at the top of the pole where the Title 4 flag should have been, with the national flag beneath it, and the military flag beneath that. That is the proper order if the country is under our law. You see, the people at the top, the free flag of peace of which the field is a far longer field. The description can be read in Title 4 USC 1 and AR 840-10, the same with the national flag and the gold fringed military flag.
You see, Title 4 USC 1 and the free flag of peace are the absolute declaration in the United States Codes that the people and their flag are the superior authority. This is why the insurgents love to see the military and national flags ground in the dirt, pissed upon, and disgraced (these institutions have been already subverted and are foreign to the insurgents) because they know that the majority out there are too f#@king stupid to know the difference. I guess it is kind of like all those people that don’t understand the difference between a Confederate battle flag and the Stars and Bars national flag of the Confederacy.
Sometimes I believe it is our failure to listen to those who have fought the fight from the beginning that allows us to actually help the enemy in their effort to destroy OUR Bill of Rights under OUR Title 4 USC 1 free flag of peace. That is not my opinion, that is the construct of law that describes and differentiates from one another the government, military, admiralty laws and jurisdictions from the people’s superior common law and jurisdiction. It is the reason that we can nullify any law per our jury. Our nullification can only be examined through the common law by another jury of the people under our jurisdiction. The government cannot overturn our decisions because their inferior courts are of inferior jurisdiction.
Their courts, if government, fly the national flag with a gold ball on top and have only jurisdiction over those working in the government. (Federal courts including the Supreme Court) The military courts, by law, fly the military flag with gold fringe and a gold eagle on top. They have jurisdiction only over those serving in the military.
What differentiates the flags is the dimensions and I tell you if you refuse this you refuse reality because the reality is the Bill of Rights is a piece of paper, the Title 4 USC 1 flag is cloth. The Bill of Rights is the common law inserted in the Constitution. The Title 4 USC 1 flag is the Bill of Rights insertion into the body of law that assures the supremacy of the people. It is the flag I have always fought under and will always fight under. It has been usurped by government and military through an unlawful act of treason by removing it from the public square and replacing it with the national flag. It has been replaced in the common law courthouses with the military flag, transforming the common law courts into military courts of admiralty.
I will finish this conversation by telling you something absolute. The Title 4 United States Code 1 flag, free flag of peace, is not the flag of this nation. It is not the flag of this treasonous government and it is not the flag of the international military flying in semblance. It is distinct and apart and absolutely, by the law of mathematics and physics, as can be clearly and absolutely understood by the human mind, the flag of every free American national of the united States of the Americas. Every act that has been perpetrated against our people has been an act of treason against the Title 4 USC 1 free flag of peace and our people and law it represents.
If you care to take any further offence against my flag, make your assertions clear within the law, because to attack my flag is an act of treason, whether perpetrated by an insurgent government and its agencies or a foreign national who thinks he can take this country away from me and fly his national flag at the top of the pole or just the ignorant masses who don’t know any better.
I do apologize about the time thing, as time spent bringing understanding to the problem is an aid to formulating the solution. I’m taking it that your argument was presented because you do not understand the different forms of the flag and what they mean. Maybe now you will understand why our Title 4 USC 1 flag, like our Bill of Rights are very honorable and worthy of our ultimate sacrifice, because when we restore them we will indeed restore ourselves.
Peace.
*** You come back at me with a condescending tone. ***
I apologize if I came across that way. It was definitely not intentional.
*** You cannot compare your time with my time. I’ve been devoting my time to fighting for my people’s Bill of Rights for 35 years. My time has been spent in study, application of the knowledge gained, and the consequences of the application.
How much of your time have you spent in a jail cell as a documented political prisoner, or healing from beatings administered by those who refuse our rights? ***
I was not aware of your history, nor do I know anything about your present activities (other than running this site, of course). But based on what you’ve just told me, your contributions are worthy of much respect. This website alone is a valuable resource.
That said, how much do you know about my past and present? I have never been in jail, but I have taken enormous risks for the benefit of the cause. I cannot discuss these matters online, so I’ll leave it to you to believe me or not.
By no means am I trying to come off as a know-it-all, or as “more important” than you or anyone else. I’m not trying to compete with anyone but those who wish to impose tyranny on us. Each of us has his role to play.
*** I see you think yourself quite intelligent, as did I, which is why I actually thought you understood the subject matter of which we were engaged in. ***
Well, it’s true that I’ve been blessed with a very high IQ. But that doesn’t mean I think I know everything, or even most things. One can be intelligent and yet remain ignorant in many respects. It may be a cliche, but the older I get, the more I realize just how little I know.
Everything you just wrote about the difference between flags is as good an example as any. All of it was indeed unknown to me, and I had no idea that you had any of that in mind when you replied initially. I don’t believe this makes me “f#@king stupid” — it simply means my efforts at acquiring knowledge were never invested in that subject. But I will look up the information you referred to. Your position is much clearer to me now, and I respect it.
There are still some subjective points on which we can agree to disagree. I still don’t place much emotional importance on any flag. Your analogy of the Bill of Rights being considered “just a piece of paper” is useful. I’m willing to die for the principles outlined in the Bill of Rights. Yet I would hardly be bothered by someone literally using a paper copy of the BoR as toilet paper. It’s when I see the pigs or others actually VIOLATE the BoR that I get angry. Or imagine someone taking a photo of my face and using it for target practice. I really wouldn’t care too much. If they actually tried to harm ME, then obviously I would care a great deal.
I believe we understand each other much better now. Thanks again, and much respect.
You guys are hurting my my mind.
Here’s a monkey wrench.
There was native black people here in the America’s first..before the Indians. ..guess what…?
I guess if they had a flag it would have saved them from the French Louisiana purchase post genocide that left a few blacks and what’s left of the Native Indian nation.
I just can’t take symbols and pictures anymore.
Let’s just fly the flag of truth here.
The letters that make up the language are just symbols also, and that’s what the flag is, a means of communication. The people’s flag, having been inserted into the foundation of the definition of the powers granted by the people to the government, is necessary as any written document is when a right under law is asserted.
When the Title 4 USC 1 free flag of peace is placed in a court, it is through this assertion that the common law jurisdiction is affirmed and it is through that flag jurisdiction that the court materializes. It is by the will of the national moving the court into action through the establishment of the jurisdiction with the filing of the correct procedure in the correct jurisdiction as identified by the flag. It then becomes record within the common law, as identified by the flag.
This is how we as free men and women take the power inherent in our persons at birth and bring it forth into actionable reality. Like any mathematical calculation, it must flow from a single point of reference that is an absolute standard. Working from such a point, accepting only absolute fact as evident, is the most logical avenue to a correct and just decision, noting that these decisions that we make among ourselves as a free people are the law that the government must acknowledge, embrace, and exercise within their institutions.
When I talk about our world and their world, our Title 4 flag is what marks the boundary between the government and the people they serve. If any reverence is inherent in the flag, it is a reverence for freedom, justice, and peace and absolutely not any other thing, as these attributes are all and absolute as to its meaning.