Weekly Standard- by Daniel Halper
“The president is going to act,” said Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. “There are executives orders, there’s executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet. But we’re compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required.”
Biden said that this is a moral issue and that “it’s critically important that we act.”
Biden talked also about taking responsible action. “As the president said, if you’re actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking. But I’m convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm’s way if we act responsibly.”
Biden, as he himself noted, helped write the Brady bill.
Eric Holder was scheduled to be at the meeting that’s currently taking place at the White House.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-obama-might-use-executive-order-deal-guns_694984.html
Bidens’s ass is sucking buttermilk. That was a lead balloon Mr. Vice President. Moral Issue?! Hah!
Good day
“Executive orders..er….Executive actions”
Looks like a Fraudian slip-up there, eh Biden?
I say ignore these bastards, start our own communities protected by our own arms, our own militia, our own government and forget these assholes and leave them out in the cold. Start new with our own territory, our own little piece of land, our own like-minded community, our own freedom, without the Masonic/Zionist/Fascist/Socialist/Communist/NWO secret centralized government bullshit.
GOOD!
Lets hope monkey-boy does issue another Un-Constitutional EO that specifically seeks to destroy the 2nd Amendment!
The sooner people reach their breaking point,.. the sooner we can get down to the business of exterminating these treasonous bags of filth, and re-establishing the US Constitution as our basis of gov’t, kick the NWO’s headquaters, the UN, OUT!,… and begin the process of rebuilding America.
Get ready my fellow Americans – the traitors have gone “All-In”, and must,… repeat, MUST disarm America before they can move onto the next phase of Operation: Global Enslavement!
This is all coming to head in the very near future will one of two paths will be taken:
1) Dumb Americans give in with little or no fight – result -> we are slaves.
2) Americans tell the traitors Fuk You! – Time to dance,.. then organize, fight and take back OUR country!
I don’t know about the average American,.. this Marine only has one option,… to fight!
JD – US Marines – TELLING you! The good fight is almost upon us!
“Americans tell the traitors Fuk You! – Time to dance,.. then organize, fight and take back OUR country!”
JD, the sound check is done, the band is eating fried chicken and waiting to play!
The idiot is preaching sedition. His incoherent ramblings are not justifying his Treason.
They all will be violating the Constitution, therefore they are committing treason and as “we are at war” ( their words) it is my belief they can be hung.
How come no one ever says anything about taking the guns away from the ones causing the problem.The gang bangers.Why? because if they send in a swat team like at waco or ruby ridge they would get cut to pieces.Leave the law abiding responsible gun owning citizen alone.WE’RE NOT THE PROBLEM.
It’s deeper than that, the government wants the gang bangers to have guns, to kill and maim, so they can use that to take more and more of our freedoms to “protect” us.
In fact, the Fast and Furious gun walking fiasco, run under Bush and continued under Obama actually allowed all types of weapons to be purchased illegally by Mexican gangs and then transported over the border into Mexico, later to be used in crimes back in the US. It was a a devious plan to close up gun retailers, resulting in blood on the hands of the government lackeys involved from the murdered victims of these illegally purchased guns.
Don’t fall for any of their desperate BS – every statistic regarding crime rates in heavily controlled or gun-free areas always prove that when citizens have access to guns, crime drops, where citizens are deprived of guns, crime soars.
The true reason why they want our guns, and especially the semi-automatic rifles, is that’s the only thing that stands in their way of implementing their wet dream of total tyranny.
The bangers are Obama’s base. If you subtract all the banger homicides from the US total, the US is probably pretty peaceful. Who really cares when some scumbag gets blown away?
So, you sociopathic criminals think you can issue a baseless executive order and then get our guns? You are out of your criminal minds.
Have you seen the Constitution, Section V ????
WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE TO REPEAL AN AMENDMENT TO THE US CONSTITUTION?
The process to repeal an Amendment is to add a new Amendment that specifically removes an existing Amendment. So, an amendment removing an amendment is a repeal. This happened when the 18th Amendment, banning alcoholic beverages, was effectively repealed by adding the 21st Amendment
There are only two methods available to propose new Amendments; as specified in Article V of the Constitution.
• The first method requires two thirds of both Houses to deem it necessary, followed later by ratification by three fourths of the Legislatures of the states.
• The second path is by two thirds of the Legislatures of the states calling for a Constitutional Convention to propose a new Amendment, followed later by ratification by three fourths of the Legislatures of the states.
These are the only legal processes available, made intentionally difficult by the Founders to insure that no whim of a current Administration can easily overturn our rights.
Please note the absence of any mention of the Administrative branch, and specifically the President in the above, and the absence of the Legislative branch, Supreme Court et al. This means that the Amendments are impervious to capricious executive orders, or any interpretive court rulings – period.
If you want our guns, the only way you will get them is through a repeal of the 2nd Amendment, a process that would fail miserably since over 30% of the US citizens already own guns, and would tar and feather any elected representative who voted for it.
“There are only two methods available to propose new Amendments; as specified in Article V of the Constitution.
• The first method requires two thirds of both Houses to deem it necessary, followed later by ratification by three fourths of the Legislatures of the states.
• The second path is by two thirds of the Legislatures of the states calling for a Constitutional Convention to propose a new Amendment, followed later by ratification by three fourths of the Legislatures of the states.”
No offense, but it would almost be too easy for them to just go through this whole process, as almost every member of our government is working against us and for the elite and the MSM media will say whatever they want and our votes obviously will just be dumped or rigged and don’t matter. In the end, no one will do anything about it during that time, just like the blatant, mass corruption in the 2012 presidential election.
So why wouldn’t they go through this process to repeal it? They all work for the same elite government and are protected by them and care nothing for the people. It should be pretty easy for them to pull it off, if you think about it. They don’t need the support of the people. Only make it look like a need of support by putting on a good show in the MSM like they are doing now.
However, I can’t guarantee that people will follow it or this country won’t go into mass civil war after that.
All this debate is silly, the 2nd only recconized an UNalienable right(read GOD given) and is impervious to any mans whims
Steve
You are right! The scumbag government will just use the same system that got the scumbags elected to take away our guns. The only safe way to proceed is to rework the election system so that the votes are paper and are manually counted at the polling place on the night of the election. Further, we need to be able to put new initiatives on the ballot like term-limits, abolition of the Fed and the IRS. Politics needs to go back to hearing the voice of the people instead of he who has the most money wins!
There are enough states that would never pass a repeal of the 2nd, such as Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee, N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Montana, Wyoming, N. Dakota, S. Dakota, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Alabama, Idaho – there’s 16 right there, and all we need to keep this from ratification is 13
Many people may have been guilty of allowing their elected representatives to vote against their wishes, and basically sit on the couch watching the game, but this issue is a loaded keg of TNT, and any weasel reps that attempt to overturn the most important of all the amendments, will find it blowing up right in their face, and I believe they know it.
Don’t worry, the Republican and Democratic parties will just change it from 13 to 20 at the last minute like they did with Ron Paul’s nominations for the presidential election. Remember the old 5 to 8 trick, I believe that it was?
The Constitution states that ratification of new amendments must be 75% of the total states to be passed.
The US currently consists of 50 states and 75% equals 37.5, or rounded up to 38.
50 takeaway 38 leaves 12, so if 13 states do not ratify, they lose.
They either have to change math, eliminate some states, or LOSE!
Executive Order
In Article I Section I of the Constitution it is clear that all legislative powers reside in Congress. The Executive Branch has the responsibility to execute the laws passed by Congess. An Executive Order is not legislation it is a order issued by the President to enforce laws passed by the Congress. While Executive Orders are not mentioned in the Constitution it has been a precedent for a President to issue Executive Orders that he deems to be necessary and proper.
The “Necessary and Proper” clause in the Constitution found in Article I Section 8 was not intended to give Congress and the authority to do whatever they felt was a good idea. This clause meant that they had the authority to pass any legislation that was necessary and proper to implement the powers delegated to the United States in Article I Section 8.
The President is the Chief Administrative Officer of the Executive Branch of Government and has the authority to implement policies and procedures that are neccesary for the administration of the duties and responsibilities that have been assigned to him by the Constitution. Policies and procedures passed by Congress are called laws and effect all of the people. An Executive Order is a policy or procedure issued by the President that is a regulation that applies only to employess of the Executive Branch of government.
Any Executive Order that has any effect on individuals that are not government employees in a violation of Article I Section I. Whenever the President issues and Executive Order that extends to all of the people. Congress has a responsibility to the people to veto any Executive Order that has any effect on non governmental employees.
When a President issues an unconstitutional Executive Order and Congress allows the order to stand they are violating their oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution.
Sir, this is not true,the 2ed dose not give us the right to be armed,we have that birth right from life NO MAN CAN TAKE THAT AWAY, sorry for yelling but im sick of people who think this right was somehow given by the constitution and can be taken because 3/4 of some groupe says so, IT WAS NOT it was given by being alive, from the start of man, no one can take the right to protect unless you let them..
DO IT
How do we start a petition on that lame whitehouse website to REMOVE THE GOVERNMENT AND HOLD A SPECIAL ELECTION AND CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION,
Previous officeholders or corporate entities need not apply!
That would be nice but it would accomplish the same as the Secession petition, which would be ABSOLUTELY NOTHING since Obama would ignore it. While the people would be ever more aware, nothing will really happen unless we take up our guns and remove them by force.
They WANT a Constitutional Convention. I can give you three guesses as to what Amendments they want to change. Your vote won’t EVER be counted either! Think Congress is going to “Save” anything? All the players are in position for a Constitutional Convention & Americans aren’t invited.
It IS time for an emergency constitutional convention followed by trials and executions for treason. The body currently posing as government serves a foreign interest and the populace has a legal mandate to remove it.
Yes Sir you are correct.
However,..that means we must take to the field and win the day before any Legislative Body can assemble and take Legal action.
For this very reason is why Petitions and Folks advocating VOTER change is a joke…..Until we control the field,…its Bye Bye Miss American Pie…………..
The 3 little pigs could not vote out the Big Bad Wolf
So very true, Oldvet.
If they came out today and said the 2ed in now gone, it don’t change one thing. This govn’t did not give us the thing in the first place. It’s only if they try to take them, then we can use any force we have to counter this act of tyranny, they have no authority to take the gun rights from you, anymore than they could from the chinese army, only if they act to harm or take can you take up arms to protect. And at that point it’s your duty
True…its friggin ridiculous to think a man hasnt a right to defend against an enemy.
Its not a RIGHT per say as much as its a natural response and duty! Even a 6 month old kitten will fight you when cornered.
.Amerikans for the most part are MTV’d Tweeter’d,..Facebook’d….MySpace’d…IPOD’d …GMO’d and Vaccinated into pure Stupidity. Will they just lay down and die? Multitudes will!
Death and destruction is what That Enemy…the
(Feinsteins,…the Obamamies…the Bidens…….the USI) … want and need….Let them experience it first hand.
Oh look…the LIBERTY TREE needs some water.
Let us issue a more perfect EO….total annihilation of “THEM” if they try. And they know this,…I believe they will try and implement this thru the same old shit again…the death of incremental advances…death of a thousand cuts.
They dont have the numbers…they dont have the backbone to win this fight….and their narcissistic Drunken son of a communist wannabe Leader is gay…… Fock’em
yup…Im dead….
I agree on the implementation process. They will slowly implement the gun registration, then comes the background checks for bullet purchases and mags and then the so-called Assault Rifles and handguns and then they’ll start it all over again for the shotguns. I just hope people will never let it get that far like they did before with everything else. This slowly cooking the frog thing is getting old and quite frankly, it’s beyond pissing me off as I’m ready to shoot the MF’ers!!!
“Amerikans for the most part are MTV’d Tweeter’d,..Facebook’d….MySpace’d…IPOD’d …GMO’d and Vaccinated into pure Stupidity. Will they just lay down and die? Multitudes will!”
Sad but true.
But the majority of legal gun owners are a different breed. And there are over 100 million of us.
It may be exactly the right time for the tyrants to try us out. We clearly need a ctrl-alt-del to this inbred ruling class, and if they want to start it, more the better!
Concur.
Absolutely! As PH said…..”they say we are weak….I say when shall we be stronger……..”
Yes Doug…we ARE a different breed altogether.
Out of the 3 million or so Colonists during the 1770’s – 80’s , roughly 1/3 were the same as most of our population today….lazy bums who loved their chains….and wouldnt lift a finger to help break their oppression.
so an executive order? yes lets start all the executive orders especially about the jfk ones about the cia reporting to joint chief of statff and printing our own money. how about acting on those first.
Right on Oldvet! Face it everybody, you all know just as well as I that we’re all just itching for them to try some bullshit. Some of us have been reddin’ up for this for a long time now. And it isn’t that we’re violent, trigger happy psychos, but we’ve been pushed for way too long now. We’re all in the arm of the last downward spiral. I hope we can get through this in a non-violent way but something tells me it aint gonna be pretty.
Actually, Eomer, I wouldn’t mind seeing a bunch of violent, trigger-happy psychos, as long as their only targets were those other violent, trigger-happy psychos that are trying to take our guns away.
I could be accommodating in that respect.
Right on! F#@k the disclaimer!
I can see Biden standing aside to let the conflict and turmoil develop instead of telling the lobotomy president that he cannot ban firearms. Total white collar criminal and he does not even notice when he is out of his authority. Dangerous, illegal, and armed, he needs to be arrested with the Obummer.