III Percent – by KerodinWe all know that the III represents the men who picked up rifles and actively fought in the Revolutionary War against the British. I just did a bit of quick arithmetic and found that the British were aided by about 2% of Loyalists, who mostly fought in the mid-Atlantic and southern Colonies. That’s 2% of neighbors and family members, in addition to the 56,000 British Army Regulars and 170,000+ sailors, 13,000 “Native” American Indians, and of course, the Hessians (about 30,000).
With a population estimated at 2.5 millions in 1776, about III Percent of Patriots fought against what equaled a hair under 400,000 under British arms, or about 16% of the population. Both sides had roughly equal support from the population in the Colonies that did not actively fight, according to most Historians. (Please let’s not pick nits over the numbers, these are all ballpark numbers put together by many Historians who may differ here or there.)
On paper, the “Rebels” should have been crushed.
Why did they win? Why did a smaller, less-trained, less-equipped force win when outnumbered about 8:1?
Many people have many differing viewpoints.
My answer: The “Rebels” – the “Patriots” – simply wanted it more.
They put it all on the line – if they lost, they would die. They had more skin in the game.
Do you ever wonder why the hare often escapes the fox? It is because the fox is running for his dinner – the hare is running for his life.
On paper today, any counter-revolution at arms should lead to the utter, absolute destruction of all “Rebels”. At a population of roughly 315 millions, to get our own 3% we’d need about 9.5 millions to pick up rifles and hunt “Regulars”. My gut says we have nowhere near that number today. One of our bloggers figures our real number is about 3% of 3% – and I can’t find any evidence to say he’s wrong. So if we count on 3% of 9.5 millions to pick up rifles and hold the line for Liberty, we’re looking at 285,000 men at arms who will leave the porch. Let’s just round that up to 300,000 Patriots so we don’t slit our wrists right now.
Also out of sync today versus the Revolutionary period is that while our original III had roughly 1/3 of the country supporting them, we know by simply looking at voting results that we can expect 90% or more Americans today to oppose Patriots who believe in Rightful Liberty (you know – Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid are ALL supported by EVERY member of Congress…). In addition, we can expect at least 2% of our neighbors and family members (not including .Gov forces) to pick up rifles and actively hunt Patriots, just as they did in the Revolution – and today that is just about 6.3 millions – and many of those folks are also veterans with training, former LEO, and generally able-bodied combatants.
So, for the sake of argument, we have 300,000 Patriots today who will defend the Liberty beneath their feet.
We can expect 90% or more of the population to be opposed to our goals, 6.3 millions of our general population to hunt Patriots, there are about 800,000 badges and guns and most of them will stand against Americans. I won’t consider military intervention, I have no reliable way to estimate how many may or may not participate.
300,000 Patriots versus more than 7,000,000 armed “Loyalists”.
How are you liking those odds?
On paper, we are toast. Liberty is dead.
Yet – when I met Jake, Chuck, Richard and others yesterday, I remain convinced we can win. Liberty can survive. Liberty can even prevail. Any one of those Patriots is worth ten armed SEIU thugs…because they want it more. They want Liberty for their children more than SEIU thugs want to risk death for a pension.
The key is that when it is Go Time, we Go, and we go all-in. Lives, Fortunes, and Sacred Honor.
We have to remember that during the Revolution, this quote from wiki: By July 4, 1776 the Patriots had gained control of virtually all territory in the 13 colonies, and expelled all royal officials. No one who openly proclaimed their loyalty to the Crown was allowed to remain, so for the moment, Loyalists fled or kept quiet. Some of those who remained later gave aid to invading British armies or joined uniformed Loyalist regiments.
If we intend to win, we all need to be on the same page. We all need to understand the path to Victory. We all need to move as one, with singular intent and ruthless efficiency.
Are you ready to tell your Leftist PTA to shut up or prepare for impact?
Are you prepared to rid your neighborhood of that 90% who oppose Liberty?
Are you prepared to stand tall in a fight that has you outnumbered by at least 23:1?
Do you physically have the preps to accomplish the above?
Do you mentally have the ability to flip that switch in your heart and mind to hunt tyranny?
On paper, you, I and Liberty are dead. We are told by all logic, common sense and enemies that we can’t win.
I do not believe in no-win scenarios.
Kerodin
III
http://iiipercent.blogspot.com/2013/07/they-had-almost-iii-percent-too.html
I respectfully disagree as those numbers are very black-and-white while reality is not. Working revolutions happen when the powers that be do something so egregious that they galvanize the majority of the population against them. While most people will still not fight they are still in opposition to the powers that be.
Furthermore, I believe the numbers pertaining to veterans is drastically more in “our” favor than you indicated. I imagine <5% of veterans would support the powers that be. The other ~95% would oppose with about 5-15% actively opposing (fighting).
We must also define what opposition to the powers that be is exactly. There's three levels of opposition in my opinion. Level 1 opposes the powers that be but will not pick up arms (this is the majority of the opposition). Level 2 opposes the powers that be but will only pick up arms to protect that which is personally theirs and their families (the majority of "active" opposition). Level 3 opposes the powers that be but is the only group which actively resists and engages based on principle and not personally driven motivations alone.
I believe that with the appropriate galvanizing event (or series of) that the numbers would actually be a bit better than many assume.
Either way, it's a mistake for either side to assume such a black-and-white outlook at how such a circumstance would break down. A good steward of history will note that my evaluation is tried and true. Albeit, our culture is a bit different (especially in today's day and age).
i have the same general thoughts as ”GIDEON”. my main concern is considering we only get 3% of 3% but loyalists get the entire 3%. i think that’s a gross overestimation. not to nit-pick numbers but if you look at 300m on paper, a piddly 9m seems highly possible if not likely. i read an article about us shooting at Israeli jets when they returned from Iran, hypothetical, ”what if” kind of article. anyway, it was saying that some pilots would not do it but hypothetically, if 30% did ”follow orders”, that would be bad enough. i think you could fairly say that 70% of vets would take our side, I’m one! anyway, blablabla, i think 9m is quite possibly, hell you can cut that in half if you want. I’ll take 4.5m third graders and do some damage! it would only take half of that again to be the world’s largest standing army. 2,225,000,,, I’ll take my chances! ”KERODIN”, i do read your stuff now and then but if we only have 300k, we better hold off!
The final phase of the revolutionary protest began in 1773 and gave evidence of a growing involvement by the vast agrarian sector. Various historians including Professor William Marina easily shows that long before specific American leaders began to talk of independence that subject came up in anonymous letters and columns in colonial newspapers. It has also been observed, and right so, that the yeomanry, armed militia that organized in the New England countryside and elsewhere, were less interested in fine constitutional points than in defending themselves. It can also be argued that the Continental Congress and some of its policies were efforts to do something in the area of policy before the farmers took matters into their own hands.
The very necessity of the American people to defend themselves proceeded from the British governmental policy which was aimed primarily at gun control in the form of firearm confiscation. This meant taking arms from the old militia yeomanry, nationalizing the militia away from local control and doing the same with the police, with the rationale that this expanded group would protect the people!
Does this sound familiar?
Professor Marina also observes along with a number of historians such as Richard Maxwell Brown in his book “Violence and the American Revolution” that the a rising level of internal social disorder and violence preceded the American Revolution, and which mounted with growing intensity.
Again does this sound familiar?
The events that were instrumental in bring about the first Revolutionary War are beginning to be present in bring about the second revolution. As these actions become more outrageous the masses will come along. Just as they did in 1776, so be patient.
The very fact that the American public is arming itself at an unprecedented rate says there is a growing realization of what will be needed.
The US government needs a damn good slapping and hopefully it is American patriots who bring it to its knees and prosecute the war criminals who are still alive.
Without the US as sole superpower these past twenty odd years there would be millions of people still alive. No nation has the right to end lives so wantonly. It is asking for its own destruction.
Don’t know much about the numbers of it all (for example, the 29 Palms military base survey from the 90s that said 25 percent of soldiers would fire on Americans if ordered…meaning 75 percent wouldn’t), but one thing that is necessary to win is for us to infiltrate them (even more than they infiltrate us)…no reason why non-active folks can’t help out just as well as the fighters. And there are all kinds of way to infiltrate, including appearing to be in support of the enemy. Never assume that the silent majority in this case is truly silent.