Craig, whose broadcast is Forbidden Knowledge every Wednesday at 4:00 Pacific, 7:00 Eastern on Liberty Tree Radio, will be joining us today on The Word From the Trenches to debate our own JD, US Marine Fighting Tyranny.
The subject matter to be debated is the spread of radiation from Fukushima. As we all know, JD believes the spread of the radiation across the United States and around the world is extensive whereas Craig contends the failed reactors have had minute to no affect upon the United States and the rest of the world.
The debate will start at the beginning of the broadcast and should be very interesting to listen to. So don’t miss it.
That is the Word From the Trenches, 12 o’clock Pacific, 3 o’clock Eastern.
The evidence is there… I’m with You JD..
Hey All,What’s there to debate? I guess next He can debate if WATER IS WET. All headlines come from the site ENENews,which has been on top of this ELE clusterf$#k from the beginng back in 2011
Steve
Latest Headlines:
08:05 AM EST on December 17th, 2013 | 4 comments
Radiation in Fukushima groundwater skyrockets 3,500+ times over weekend — Just 5 meters from Pacific Ocean — No steps being taken to stop flow into sea (PHOTO)
12:59 AM EST on December 17th, 2013 | 33 comments
Hot particle found 400 kilometers from Fukushima with radioactivity over 40 billion Bq/kg — Large black puddles of fallout along roadsides might well be from inside failed fuel rods (VIDEOS)
08:54 PM EST on December 16th, 2013 | 91 comments
Gundersen: All of Japan is contaminated, gov’t covering up enormous exposures to public; Epidemic is just beginning — Evacuee: We are in fact dying in Fukushima; What happened to us will soon affect all Japanese people (VIDEOS)
04:33 PM EST on December 16th, 2013 | 39 comments
Jiji: No solution seen for Fukushima’s radioactive water — Kyodo: Toxic ocean leakage to go on into 2020s — Experts: “High potential for marine life and human health effects through ingestion over generations”
02:30 PM EST on December 16th, 2013 | 69 comments
Officials Worried: Radiation levels rise sharply in soil outside Fukushima — Cesium quadruples during past year
11:21 AM EST on December 16th, 2013 | 67 comments
Releasing Fukushima radioactive water into Pacific ‘inevitable’ — Reports: Japan very aware of danger posed by past releases; Contaminants are concentrated thousands of times in food chain; At end of chain are humans “who may suffer genetic damage, cancer, other health problems and even death”
09:29 AM EST on December 16th, 2013 | 35 comments
Japan Professor: Damage from Fukushima is unprecedented, a disaster never before experienced in human history; Some say it could affect whole northern hemisphere — Experts: “Very likely the largest nuclear accident which mankind experienced”
01:43 AM EST on December 16th, 2013 | 112 comments
Gov’t Report: CNN, Huffington Post listed as ‘external stakeholders’ in NRC, alongside nuclear industry and pro-nuclear blogs — Both outlets help NRC to increase online influence, as CNN produces pro-nuclear infomercial
Way to go Steve… I too am well aware of ENENews and their coverage of Fukashima…
Jeno,Once again ,I did nothing more than copy and paste(about all Im capable of) all credit goes to those who have researched and supplied this information,this is also true of all articles posted under my name.Each day all I do is read the news around the world and forward to Henry and by Henry I mean TEAM HENRY which always includes his partner/wifey Laura.I dont seek nor do I deserve any credit whatsoever.
Steve
“Craig contends the failed reactors have had minute to no affect upon the United States and the rest of the world.”
No offense, but I am of the opinion that Craig is delusional, at least on this particular topic. If he is interested, I would love to sell him some prime real estate for an incredibly low price near Chernobyl!
And I have a geiger counter I can sell you!
Your trying way to hard,let me guess you get brownie points or a bonus for each TITANIC cant be sunk denial you post,NOBODY BELIEVES YOU OR YOUR EMPLOYER,is it G E,what is your soul worth,how much death is enough?????
Steve
Why do people also keep saying Fukushima is already worse than Chernobyl? There were no deaths due to radiation poisoning in the aftermath of the Fukushima accident, although it is projected that about 130 will eventually perish and another 180 new cancer cases will occur due to the event. Comparing to Chernobyl; 31 died within 3 months and a total of about 4,000 are projected to die over an 80 year span due to the Chernobyl accident out of the 5 million that were residing in the now contaminated areas.
Oh I dont know mayyyyyybeeee its because they arent afraid of facts and dont FORBID KNOWLEDGE which alway always leads to truth,you should find a different line of shilling cause you just aint very good at the one you are currently employed in. here’s a hint QUIT GETTING YOUR INFO FROM GENERAL ELECTRIC!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
All the evidence points to J.D. being absolutely right, and that fact makes me question the motives of Craig, because I’m sure he’s seen all the same evidence.
Infant mortality rose 40% in California since the incident, world-wide cancer rates have spiked, and snow and rainwater are testing positive for radiation in the U.S., not to mention all the horticultural mutations that have been showing up since the meltdowns.
Craig would have to come up with some other explanation for these post-Fukushima anomalies if his debate has any credibility at all. If he limits his side of the debate to attacking J.D. rather than providing real scientific evidence to back his claim, then you’ll know he’s full of dung, and working for the enemy’s propaganda team.
What seems somewhat suspicious to me from the get-go is that Craig would even question that the radiation is spreading. Is there some way to contain it? Or does Craig contend that is doesn’t exist? Does he believe that radiation stays where it’s produced, defying all known scientific evidence that it travels?
Does he know what happened at Chernobyl, or is he also denying that radiation from that catastrophe spread across Russia? Doesn’t he realize that Chernobyl was a mild release of radiation compared to what we’re seeing at Fukushima?
Right off the bat I don’t trust Craig, because just the fact that he would disagree that radiation is spreading world-wide, after we’ve already seen evidence of it happening, have past knowledge that is does spread, and that we’re dealing with much greater quantities here, causes me to think he’s only taking up this side of the debate because he’s working for the enemy.
Craig…. please explain to me how the radiation from Fukushima can NOT be spreading around the world, because your side of the debate is the one that defies all known scientific knowledge on the matter.
Well Jolly Roger, your mind is made up so there’s probably no deprogramming you. Your statement that I have no scientific evidence shows you didn’t listen to the show or didn’t understand it. Don’t believe me or JD. Forget everything you saw on the net or heard on patriot programming. Study for yourself the science of how radiation travels and you will have your answer. Then get a geiger counter and check for yourself if you still doubt science.
Why do we patriots latch onto the conspiracy reports of doom and gloom always assuming the government is lying to us? Not everything in this world is a lie, but there are certainly a lot of them.
Where is all this radiation we are supposedly seeing in the US? I can’t find it. Are my geiger counters lying to me? I have about 16 pallets of radiation detection equipment, maybe they are all defective? If I am a government shill I sure would love to see the check!
The truth is bad enough, we don’t need all this hype when it’s not warranted.
As time goes on we will see more and more members of the Patriot movement being outed as for what they actually are….not saying Craig is the “undercover” enemy…but hey..!
Just saying
People are amazed at how often I talk them out of buying an expensive piece of equipment that will not do what they think it will because of the press. No wonder I try to talk people all the time out of buying a geiger counter if they are buying it because of Japan, I must get so much money being a shill that I would never have to work again! You all know nothing about me, I challenge any of you to do more for freedom than I have done and am doing every day. Shame on all of you who posted comments demonizing me even before hearing the show (check out the time/day stamp, that’s most of the postings on this page).
Is Craig serious? Has he even looked in the Pacific Ocean lately? Has he even seen the radiation coverage on maps? Has he even seen the die out of animals and loss of animal life and defects on the West Coast? Has he even took out a geiger counter lately and measured the radiation in the air? Has he even seen the chronic nose bleeds of the people and children in Japan? Yea, I’m sure it’s just the cold weather and dry air. Has he even listened to and read the reports from Japanese scientists themselves? The thing is ready to go ker-plunk if they don’t take the fuel rods out nice and slow? Has he even seen the dead fish? Has he been living under a rock? Has he even read ENE news or is that fiction and false propaganda to him?
What a nutcase!
I take readings all the time and so do many others all around the world and we are still waiting to see where all the these “death plumes” are! It’s amazing how I am attacked when I only present the truth, but I expect those attacks being a patriot as it happens all the time in my business. I have just been surprised that the attacks this time are coming from other patriots who should know enough to check the reports out to see if they are true or not.
GO TO ENENews,I posted many many links oh shill for the nuke em industry.Maybe just maybe they can get you to realize WHAT YOU AND YOURS ARE DOING TO THE ONLY PLANET THAT CAN SUPPORT LIFE.When you have opened your eyes to the horrors you have helped hide you should get on your knees and ask our CREATOR for mercy and forgiveness.
Steve
Sounds like there is no saving Steve, he is surely going to die from radiation from Fukushima, maybe he will be the first. For all the others that continue to support the lies, here is what you do to save yourself: wear a gas mask for the rest of your life and hope the gamma rays aren’t too bad since no gas mask in the world will block gamma radiation. Be sure to wear lead gloves when changing the NBC filters. Filter all your water and don’t go near the filters since they will all be deadly radioactive. Don’t let any dust get on your skin since the fallout from Fukushima will surely do you in, a military chemical suit will work here, but frankly even a rainsuit will protect you. When you take your gas mask off to eat, you had better wear goggles too since the beta particles can get in your eyes and blind you. Don’t eat any sea food since all fish and sea vegetable life is surely contaminated with deadly cesium 137. All land based mammals and plant life will surely be contaminated as well since there is massive amounts of fallout from Fukushima. Maybe you could go on an all Twinkie diet that is devoid of any real food! If you haven’t already, you had better take at least 170mg of potassium iodate per day, don’t worry about your thyroid, you can have it surgically removed later when it is destroyed, and besides they have pharmaceutical drugs that can compensate for your former thyroid. Better throw away your smoke detector too since it has americium 241 in it which will surely just be adding to your total radiation exposure. You should probably bury it someplace far from your living space and wash your hands thoroughly after handling it. If you can afford it, a deep underground bunker can be helpful to reduce your overall gamma radiation dose. Perhaps you can come to the surface every once in awhile to hand us mutants a few Twinkies now and then as a great humanitarian effort.
I will conduct my life here just as before and be fine thank you.
For those who aren’t brain dead you can see my point here. There is no dangerous levels a radiation effecting human life for any of us in the several states or 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the world either. What sense is it to live in fear of something that won’t affect us, for something you can do nothing about anyway? Maybe it’s just because you want to hang onto the notion that all governments all around the world are lying to you just like many have been caught lying about so many other things. All those live independent radiological monitors must be getting paychecks from the man too! Not everything is a conspiracy. I will be sad when Steve is the first to pass away from radiation from Fukushima. At least his death will not be unnoticed as he will have been able to prove me wrong all along…
YADA YADA YADA,you sure seem to talk alot for someone that forbids knowledge,are you trying to get your xmas bonus if so you are doing a piss poor job at earning your sliver of silver,I have taken no “precautions what so ever mouthy one” what I have done is REASEARCH which seems to be somthing you are DEATHLY AFRAID OF,you makes these outrageous claims and kinda talk like a man with a paper asshole as you are full of s%$t which is abundantly appart to any that have glanced at your long winded insane rambleings.Hey there’s thefkn water drink if you want doesnt matter to me one way or the other.I find it hard to believe that even you a bought off/paid off whore even believes the nonsense coming out of you foolish mouth.There are facts and knowledge from all parts of the world dispelling your tripe,yet I dont see your goofey ass on any of these factual sites you come here thinking your long winded words and outright lying accusations will move the fine folks on this site HA HA HA,you are truly a sad sad sad excuse for a human being or what ever kind of creature you are.I fear NOTHING ON THIS ROCK but stupidity and fkn liars do leave a bad taste in my crawl.you should find another line of shilling cause you just aint very good at this one. take care oh mouthy on cause Karma is a b%$#h
I would hope that all would listen in to the debate with an open mind. Craig sells Geiger counters so his position is actually detrimental to his entrepreneurial endeavor.
I do not believe Craig to be an agent as he spends a lot of time in court fighting as a free sovereign driving from gun show to gun show with no license on his vehicle. He has also revoked his social security number.
Don’t get me wrong, I do not agree with his assessment and that is why I want to hear the issue debated. It could be that Craig just is not privy to the information, and JD, being JD, a highly educated individual, who has been looking at the information, should put up a fair and precise argument.
I will ask that at the end of the debate if any of you want to call in and comment to take the debate further, well that would be just fine. But let us not attack Craig until we have heard him speak.
I smell an asswhippin like you gave that “ken” putz on the show yesterday,in fact I’ll bet a nickel he dont even show up for the embarressment that JD is sure to supply.
Steve
Hi Steve,
Well,.. thank you, and the people above for the vote of confidence,.. but I’m not an expert on radiation,.. just a bit better versed on the subject than the average person.
The whole argument will boil down to this:
Q: Is radiation lethal?
A: Yes.
Q: Does long term exposure to even low level radiation cause health problems,.. such as various cancers?
A: Yes:
Q: Did radiological materials escape from the Fukishima Nuclear site?
A: Yes
Q: Was it a substantial amount of radiological materials?
A: Yes
Q: Is that radiological material now in the open enviroment?
A: Yes
Ok,…. what is left to dicuss??
It’s not a question is a known radiological material spreading around the planet,.. it really becomes a question of trying to predict the detrimental effects on living organisms.
The only question is one of degree, not cause-effect relationship.
There really is no debate here, except for the expected statistical correlation between the known amount of material to have escaped, the diffusion rate,.. and the long term impact on human, and oceanic life.
JD – US Marines – Radiation in the enviroment, means,.. by definition,.. that radiation has escaped into the enviroment. No matter how one try’s to spin it,.. thats,… “bad”!
J D ,I have listened to your words and even though we have not met face to face I know you and the unarguable truth you lay down .With that said it is me who OWES you the thanks.
Steve
Simply put, show me the radiation. I can’t find it. Neither can all the live grass roots reporting stations all around the world.
Show me the radiation,SHOW ME AIR,your in denial or
Hey ,how much are they paying you to LIE ,last year you probably denied CHEMTRAILS and pushed global warming.Only a blind bought and paid for shill could deny the titanic amount of UNPRECEDENTED horror stories related to the worst enviromental mess the world has ever known.Tell your owners THEY AINT FOOLING ANYONE THIS TIME AROUND,this monster is out of control,THREE NUKE CORIUMS melting into the earth,200 whales in san fran bay seastars melting up and down the whole west coast from alaska to baja. 100% of herring with open oozing sores NO SARDINES caught this season,reports of the EMPTYNESS and silence in the middle of the pacific on a 3000 mile journey and this dont even count the POLLUTION of state sized islands of plastic in the oceans of the world.So You go peddle your fkn lies somewhere else and SHAME ON YOU FOR covering this horror up as Karma has a way of dealing with your kind,how do you sleep??????
Steve
Looks \like Steve has no argument at all, just resorting to name calling and accusations. Not at all a valid basis for an argument.
For those who want to hear more follow-up dicussion on Craig’s show about this topic tune in tonight to Liberty Tree Radio live at 7pm eastern time.
Hey All
This man Kevin D blanch has cut through the B S from day one
http://www.youtube.com/user/kevindblanch/videos
Looking forward to the debate!
family lived in northern Hornsby for a year and experienced the events.
I hope they don’t rely on ENE as a source. like every thing they should verify. The stakes could not be higher.
Mont, please explain “I hope they don’t rely on ENE as a source” as in who is “they” and to clarify ENENews is a collection site with many many INTELLIGENT, WELL INFORMED, EDUCATED -REAL people WITH OUT AN AGENDA OR A PAYCHECK,which brings us to the question WHO ARE YOU and what is your agenda????????
Steve
IF anyone is interested in fuk-us-shima long term effects on population of earth, one should listen to “dr.Doom” ed Dames at latest coast to coast interview. But it’s not for kids, there are some pretty scary things (the type of alice in wonderland) discussed there.
Coast to Coast AM – December 9 2013
Oh yeah, Coast to Coast Radio, now they would never lie to you! Are you people serious?
Damn. I just crawled from under my rock because of the glow. Is it really this bad? 🙂
Something Wicked This Way Comes Fukushima
http://hatrickpenryunbound.com/?p=3683
There are many YouTube videos on the subject too.
This website is mostly made up of FOIA documents. It’s hard to argue with documents.
http://intellihub.com/2013/12/16/51-u-s-navy-personnel-acquired-cancers-after-helping-to-mitigate-fukushima-disaster/
Wanna move to Japan now? This will most certainly affect the whole planet in time. The idea that pollution is somehow OVER THERE somewhere is insane. We live on a small green island in space people.