Yes paul, most cover ups are. Like they say you only see 10 % of the ice berg, the other 90% is under water. I think it is 10% above water and 90% below.
To provide some perspective here. Japan is 5,500 miles away from California. The United States is 3,000 miles wide. So if the radiation is potentially that terribly more than just the west coast would need to be evacuated.
Aside from that over 2,000 nuclear weapons have detonated upon the earth.
While this situation is very bad, let us not get all caught up in the hype as well.
BRANDON ,”hype” the FKN PACIFIC OCEAN IS DYING.You need to quit making stupid uninformed dangerous comments and go to ENENEWS site and educate yourself on the WORST NUKE CLUSTERFUK IN THE HISTORY OF THE world http://enenews.com/
We all know the disaster of the nuclear plant Fukushima and what could become of the west coast and the world in general because of it. But what if this disaster is in fact a diversion for something far more sinister than anyone could believe.
As we all know the Chinese were invited to an exercise in Hawaii for GridXII this month and as rumor has it they will be participating in a large navel exercise soon with the U.S Navy and Russia off the California coast. There have been a lot of the same questions asked, WHY?
I was asking the same question about all of these coincidences myself and couldn’t come up with a theory of why all of this was happening that was at least reasonable.Then watching this video http://beforeitsnews.com/earthquakes/2013/11/abc-news-west-coast-evacuation-due-to-fukushima-radiation-possible-video-2478800.html It became kind of clear to me that with them removing the fuel rods from reactor 4 that if they make a mistake (I’m sure THAT won’t happen) it could cause the worst nuclear disaster we’ve ever seen.
In causing that disaster the radiation levels could become so great that the story might become true about having to evacuate the west coast. What a better time to have an exercise off the west coast than this and not to mention with china in force and so close as well as Russia. The word invasion comes to mind. Now mind you I have no proof that all of this will happen or is in any way true but it is a little unusual that all of these exercises that we are doing just happen to include the Chinese all of a sudden.
The big question is, where would you displace millions of people? Where would you (and I will leave what the definition of evacuate means in this type scenario up to you) evacuate all these people to and how? I’m NOT I any way trying to start rumors or a conspiracy theory, just trying to draw a parallel of the events going on in the world as well as here in the US that make some kind of since. Ever get a gut feeling? I’ve got one.
Watch for movements of the San Diego navy ships to be moved as well as Camp Pendelton personnel movements. Also many navy ships in San Francisco Bay as well would be getting the hell out. God only knows what would be heading out north of those locations.
Today is supposed to be the last day of the (unused) rod removal in Fukushima. Next they go to some kind of storage facility. Whatever is supposed to happen next over there during this human extermination program is anybody’s guess.
You raise a good point, Redhorse. And you’re not the only one who has been contemplating on the timing of all of this.
I was thinking the other day as to why they would risk bringing in Russian and Chinese troops because if Fukushima goes off (which is highly likely), then they would be killing their own troops in the process, especially when they even know this is a very likely scenario.
Then I started thinking maybe it was a part of their depopulation program. Especially since China has so many population, it would kill two birds with one stone and then they would go to war with Japan over it and we would be powerless to do anything at all and the UN would rise up as the global government under the control of China and Russia just as they clearly want.
Now you pull up the timing of these drills and so on and ask where they are going to evacuate and send these people to?
My answer to your question is: They don’t intend to.
Depopulation galore under the guise of a global disaster.
“Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”
– Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992.
How about this? A nuclear emergency. America evacuates the west coast, only there is no radiation, no emergency. One group of Chinese swarm up through California as the Chinese troops land all up and down the west coast. The internet kill switch is flipped. The only thing coming over the controlled radio broadcasts is a communist telling you the radiation knocked the net out. One week later, reports start trickling across the country that it all was a lie and the Chinese are now the only people on the west coast. They say they are taking it for the money Obama owes them. They put up a border fence and, son of a bitch, there is a machine gun turret every quarter mile with a .50 on it. And now the Chinese, protecting their sovereign territory would be absolutely acceptable. Now they can bring in the real invasion force. What kind of communist invasion army wearing the UN blue could you launch with the west coast at your disposal?
Anything is possible these days….no doubt. Not saying that none of these are possible…..
….just looking at the tactical point of view……..to many of you mutha-fockers are armed, AND THEY KNOW IT ( well except the liberal fruits in Komifornia) for the chinks and the “VERY” few landing craft they have to make much of a dent…at the moment they got no blue water landing craft in sufficient numbers….Plain english? they cant put enough boots on the ground fast enough that way yet.
….BUT,……coming in from Mexico or Baja California could be done with out the logistical problems that face a maritime landing force…
But they do have blue water landing craft in sufficient numbers. We call them container ships. And don’t forget, there will be no one here to oppose, as we would be evacuated.
Shy of a voluntary evacuation, invasion of the west coast would be an impossibility. From the beach you go up into the Coastal Range and if you proceed, you go up into the heavily forested Cascades/Sierra Nevadas. And then of course you would have to go up into the Rockies.
You see, strategically speaking, the west coast is the high ground of the United States.
I live at an altitude that your planes fly at on the east coast. We have the fewest roads with the easiest means of blocking them. I don’t believe any country could have a successful invasion to our mountains and forests.
I don’t think they would attack our east coast because though it is easier navigating, they could never conquer the west coast and eventually we would destroy them.
Make no mistake, these here mountains with a thousand miles of open sea access are the stronghold of the United States. No force could ever take us as long as we hold this ground.
Now, on the other side of the coin, if an enemy force could occupy these mountains, could we dislodge them? I doubt it.
“But they do have blue water landing craft in sufficient numbers. We call them container ships. And don’t forget, there will be no one here to oppose, as we would be evacuated.”
Yep, the Chinese will smuggle anything in containers overseas, even human beings. Don’t underestimate the Chinese. They are tricky, slippery bastards. Containers are a very REAL possibility and a most likely one.
Damn. I can’t believe I didn’t think of that one. They’re all about container shipping in China, especially Hong Kong, Guangzhou and Shanghai.
Excellent point, Henry.
Also, two more things to think about:
1. Commiefornia is going all out lately on gun confiscation and Communist education and laws as if they are preparing for a speedy welcome or smooth transition for the Chinese/Russian invasion as they take over California. Hence, why the Chinese government was urging us to disarm.
2. Not only would they have the high ground, but they would also have their backs to the sunlight, making it that much more difficult to fight them even if we could get on even playing field with them. The sunlight in the West would blind us in our attempts to fight them.
It’s a perfect Sun Tzu “Art of War” setup. Take control of the high ground and have the sun at your backs.
Good point indeed!
Well that gets them here….But we do know that the RADIATION is real and its bombarding the WC, so that being said what would they gain?
Just thinking in the big term like y’all are…but gotta also look at the poker players aspect in all this… Would the Chicoms invade an area they know has been poisoned and is slowly dying. Also would they when they know and understand Yellowstone caldera and the N.Madrid fault has more than likely been rigged with Our nukes to split the nation…..
They need land for farms…for sure….but knowing this nation has been poluted with so many toxins I cant see them wanting to come take anything.
They do have enough ICBMs and Ballistic Subs to achieve a deadly first strike nuke attack on us should they decide its time to bump off the bully.
Hell None of us know…if we did we would stop it…nip it in the bud.
Like I said before anything is possible these days and nothing is what it seems to be it could be something we never even thought of in our wildest dreams…..:(
Also, you have Janet Napolitano as Chairmen of the Board of Education for Commiefornia and was formerly the head of DHS. Talk about a warm, Communist welcome and the keys to the country. It would be a perfectly executed plan.
“Take the enemy’s country whole and intact. Destroy is not good.
Subdues the enemy’s troops without any fighting.
Captures the enemy’s cities without laying siege to them.
Overthrows without lengthy operations in the field.”
Sun Tzu, “Art of War”
Oldvet, maybe all they need is a foothold into the country to launch their plan of surrounding us from the West and the South, while another threat surrounds and bombards us from the North and the East. Maybe a Middle Eastern one to be blamed on Syria and Iran.
Remember: These elitists bastards love to plan wars on two fronts simultaneously. Just like WWII with Germany and Japan.
Hence, why the Denver Airport is probably being prepared to be the new White House or NWO headquarters.
It would definitely change America in every way shape and form.
As far as the Chinese having anything to gain and the land being toxic, I don’t know what to say about that. Maybe that is not their plan. Maybe that is a red herring, but I do know that the Chinese use every little thing to their advantage and this is probably nothing more than leverage to be used against us.
Old Vet,
Man, you are stubborn. Get out a globe. Look at China, Japan, and the United States. It is about 500 miles from the Japanese coast to the Chinese coast. It is about 2200 miles from the Japanese coast to the American coast.
As radiation radiates, however poisoned the United States is, China is four times more.
And, the west coast is the key to the capture of the entire United States.
The question is not whether the radiation is real or not, but rather how real and to what extent.
Yeah I might be .. but I know that the Wind and the sea current flow from west to East…not backwards….!
You gave you express opinion on what the Chicoms will do….I gave mine on what else was possible…..if you want to be right then be right. What was that about stubborn?
Like I said…anything is possible…non of us know what will happen until it does.
Old Vet,
No insult intended. You will find a lot of stubborn people on this site, including myself.
Now, to close the subject. The wind doesn’t blow in straight lines, it swirls. We regularly have winds from the north and east bringing weather from 500 miles away and radiation radiates. It is the particles that are blown about. Also, the fishies in the sea that the birds eat are radiated, and of course those birds are eaten by the mammals that shit them out upon the land. Seattle is about 500 miles from where I am at and I can just imagine Fukushima being that close to me.
My dad used to have an artful way of ending arguments like this and as this discussion has been one of pure speculation I will implement it thusly. “I think you are right, and I might be too.” 🙂
Alright then Henry….I will set down the gloves…..Im a little more than edgy and defensive these days…as are many I presume.
Peace treaty it is….we can’t fight each other…..we must not fight each other……thats just what they want. 🙂
I would like to add one more thing to this discussion. Don’t forget the Chinese nuclear subs. It was last year I think when we were having a navel exercise in the pacific and two or three Chinese subs surfaced right in the middle of the exercise undetected. I wouldn’t have wanted the toilet paper bill that day.
Also last year the missile launch off the west coast that no one is fessing up to has rumors that it was a Chinese sub but has never been proven. The point? Well if they can evade our sonar and our sub net detection systems they could hold the US hostage for at least a little while with those subs. The bigger question is if they can do that with their subs then what else can they do that with?
Getting troops(lots of them) on the ground might not be that hard.
Bill Clinton was aboard that sub off of Catalina Island REDHORSE. He was checking out the status of the missile guidance systems. He had to have some good material for his next $250,000 Chinese college speech.
Lets not forget that the Chicoms control the Panama Canal zone and “supposedly” have Nationals in Mexico.
Invasion troops may already be there….
A recent VT article postulated the Russians and Chinese would work together to bring us down. The Russians would launch their ICBM’s while the Chinese would be used for the “boots on the ground” …cannon fodder…………the plan was then to take out the Chinese with Russian forces, Air Sea and Land…and leave Russia as king supreme..
I dont know what to believe anymore,..but I cant say I pass by any of it as pure propaganda or BS.
Y’all know what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ombh0hP1Ug
this thing is way worse than they are saying.
Yes paul, most cover ups are. Like they say you only see 10 % of the ice berg, the other 90% is under water. I think it is 10% above water and 90% below.
yes diggerdan your right.
To provide some perspective here. Japan is 5,500 miles away from California. The United States is 3,000 miles wide. So if the radiation is potentially that terribly more than just the west coast would need to be evacuated.
Aside from that over 2,000 nuclear weapons have detonated upon the earth.
While this situation is very bad, let us not get all caught up in the hype as well.
BRANDON ,”hype” the FKN PACIFIC OCEAN IS DYING.You need to quit making stupid uninformed dangerous comments and go to ENENEWS site and educate yourself on the WORST NUKE CLUSTERFUK IN THE HISTORY OF THE world
http://enenews.com/
Dateline Fukushima:
We all know the disaster of the nuclear plant Fukushima and what could become of the west coast and the world in general because of it. But what if this disaster is in fact a diversion for something far more sinister than anyone could believe.
As we all know the Chinese were invited to an exercise in Hawaii for GridXII this month and as rumor has it they will be participating in a large navel exercise soon with the U.S Navy and Russia off the California coast. There have been a lot of the same questions asked, WHY?
I was asking the same question about all of these coincidences myself and couldn’t come up with a theory of why all of this was happening that was at least reasonable.Then watching this video
http://beforeitsnews.com/earthquakes/2013/11/abc-news-west-coast-evacuation-due-to-fukushima-radiation-possible-video-2478800.html It became kind of clear to me that with them removing the fuel rods from reactor 4 that if they make a mistake (I’m sure THAT won’t happen) it could cause the worst nuclear disaster we’ve ever seen.
In causing that disaster the radiation levels could become so great that the story might become true about having to evacuate the west coast. What a better time to have an exercise off the west coast than this and not to mention with china in force and so close as well as Russia. The word invasion comes to mind. Now mind you I have no proof that all of this will happen or is in any way true but it is a little unusual that all of these exercises that we are doing just happen to include the Chinese all of a sudden.
The big question is, where would you displace millions of people? Where would you (and I will leave what the definition of evacuate means in this type scenario up to you) evacuate all these people to and how? I’m NOT I any way trying to start rumors or a conspiracy theory, just trying to draw a parallel of the events going on in the world as well as here in the US that make some kind of since. Ever get a gut feeling? I’ve got one.
Watch for movements of the San Diego navy ships to be moved as well as Camp Pendelton personnel movements. Also many navy ships in San Francisco Bay as well would be getting the hell out. God only knows what would be heading out north of those locations.
Today is supposed to be the last day of the (unused) rod removal in Fukushima. Next they go to some kind of storage facility. Whatever is supposed to happen next over there during this human extermination program is anybody’s guess.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/11/21/uk-fuk-japan-fukushima-removal-idUKBRE9AK0GB20131121
You raise a good point, Redhorse. And you’re not the only one who has been contemplating on the timing of all of this.
I was thinking the other day as to why they would risk bringing in Russian and Chinese troops because if Fukushima goes off (which is highly likely), then they would be killing their own troops in the process, especially when they even know this is a very likely scenario.
Then I started thinking maybe it was a part of their depopulation program. Especially since China has so many population, it would kill two birds with one stone and then they would go to war with Japan over it and we would be powerless to do anything at all and the UN would rise up as the global government under the control of China and Russia just as they clearly want.
Now you pull up the timing of these drills and so on and ask where they are going to evacuate and send these people to?
My answer to your question is: They don’t intend to.
Depopulation galore under the guise of a global disaster.
“Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”
– Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992.
And therein lies your answer, Redhorse!
like they’d tell us.
Like the movie, “2012” in regards to the government:
“How do you tell over a billion people they are about to die? You don’t.”
1 problem with all that; Wouldn’t those troops be dying off too? so how would that be enforced
How about this? A nuclear emergency. America evacuates the west coast, only there is no radiation, no emergency. One group of Chinese swarm up through California as the Chinese troops land all up and down the west coast. The internet kill switch is flipped. The only thing coming over the controlled radio broadcasts is a communist telling you the radiation knocked the net out. One week later, reports start trickling across the country that it all was a lie and the Chinese are now the only people on the west coast. They say they are taking it for the money Obama owes them. They put up a border fence and, son of a bitch, there is a machine gun turret every quarter mile with a .50 on it. And now the Chinese, protecting their sovereign territory would be absolutely acceptable. Now they can bring in the real invasion force. What kind of communist invasion army wearing the UN blue could you launch with the west coast at your disposal?
That’s about the only thing that could make me hate this place more.
Anything is possible these days….no doubt. Not saying that none of these are possible…..
….just looking at the tactical point of view……..to many of you mutha-fockers are armed, AND THEY KNOW IT ( well except the liberal fruits in Komifornia) for the chinks and the “VERY” few landing craft they have to make much of a dent…at the moment they got no blue water landing craft in sufficient numbers….Plain english? they cant put enough boots on the ground fast enough that way yet.
….BUT,……coming in from Mexico or Baja California could be done with out the logistical problems that face a maritime landing force…
But they do have blue water landing craft in sufficient numbers. We call them container ships. And don’t forget, there will be no one here to oppose, as we would be evacuated.
Shy of a voluntary evacuation, invasion of the west coast would be an impossibility. From the beach you go up into the Coastal Range and if you proceed, you go up into the heavily forested Cascades/Sierra Nevadas. And then of course you would have to go up into the Rockies.
You see, strategically speaking, the west coast is the high ground of the United States.
I live at an altitude that your planes fly at on the east coast. We have the fewest roads with the easiest means of blocking them. I don’t believe any country could have a successful invasion to our mountains and forests.
I don’t think they would attack our east coast because though it is easier navigating, they could never conquer the west coast and eventually we would destroy them.
Make no mistake, these here mountains with a thousand miles of open sea access are the stronghold of the United States. No force could ever take us as long as we hold this ground.
Now, on the other side of the coin, if an enemy force could occupy these mountains, could we dislodge them? I doubt it.
“But they do have blue water landing craft in sufficient numbers. We call them container ships. And don’t forget, there will be no one here to oppose, as we would be evacuated.”
Yep, the Chinese will smuggle anything in containers overseas, even human beings. Don’t underestimate the Chinese. They are tricky, slippery bastards. Containers are a very REAL possibility and a most likely one.
Damn. I can’t believe I didn’t think of that one. They’re all about container shipping in China, especially Hong Kong, Guangzhou and Shanghai.
Excellent point, Henry.
Also, two more things to think about:
1. Commiefornia is going all out lately on gun confiscation and Communist education and laws as if they are preparing for a speedy welcome or smooth transition for the Chinese/Russian invasion as they take over California. Hence, why the Chinese government was urging us to disarm.
2. Not only would they have the high ground, but they would also have their backs to the sunlight, making it that much more difficult to fight them even if we could get on even playing field with them. The sunlight in the West would blind us in our attempts to fight them.
It’s a perfect Sun Tzu “Art of War” setup. Take control of the high ground and have the sun at your backs.
Good point indeed!
Well that gets them here….But we do know that the RADIATION is real and its bombarding the WC, so that being said what would they gain?
Just thinking in the big term like y’all are…but gotta also look at the poker players aspect in all this… Would the Chicoms invade an area they know has been poisoned and is slowly dying. Also would they when they know and understand Yellowstone caldera and the N.Madrid fault has more than likely been rigged with Our nukes to split the nation…..
They need land for farms…for sure….but knowing this nation has been poluted with so many toxins I cant see them wanting to come take anything.
They do have enough ICBMs and Ballistic Subs to achieve a deadly first strike nuke attack on us should they decide its time to bump off the bully.
Hell None of us know…if we did we would stop it…nip it in the bud.
Like I said before anything is possible these days and nothing is what it seems to be it could be something we never even thought of in our wildest dreams…..:(
Also, you have Janet Napolitano as Chairmen of the Board of Education for Commiefornia and was formerly the head of DHS. Talk about a warm, Communist welcome and the keys to the country. It would be a perfectly executed plan.
“Take the enemy’s country whole and intact. Destroy is not good.
Subdues the enemy’s troops without any fighting.
Captures the enemy’s cities without laying siege to them.
Overthrows without lengthy operations in the field.”
Sun Tzu, “Art of War”
Oldvet, maybe all they need is a foothold into the country to launch their plan of surrounding us from the West and the South, while another threat surrounds and bombards us from the North and the East. Maybe a Middle Eastern one to be blamed on Syria and Iran.
Remember: These elitists bastards love to plan wars on two fronts simultaneously. Just like WWII with Germany and Japan.
Hence, why the Denver Airport is probably being prepared to be the new White House or NWO headquarters.
It would definitely change America in every way shape and form.
As far as the Chinese having anything to gain and the land being toxic, I don’t know what to say about that. Maybe that is not their plan. Maybe that is a red herring, but I do know that the Chinese use every little thing to their advantage and this is probably nothing more than leverage to be used against us.
Old Vet,
Man, you are stubborn. Get out a globe. Look at China, Japan, and the United States. It is about 500 miles from the Japanese coast to the Chinese coast. It is about 2200 miles from the Japanese coast to the American coast.
As radiation radiates, however poisoned the United States is, China is four times more.
And, the west coast is the key to the capture of the entire United States.
The question is not whether the radiation is real or not, but rather how real and to what extent.
Yeah I might be .. but I know that the Wind and the sea current flow from west to East…not backwards….!
You gave you express opinion on what the Chicoms will do….I gave mine on what else was possible…..if you want to be right then be right. What was that about stubborn?
Like I said…anything is possible…non of us know what will happen until it does.
Old Vet,
No insult intended. You will find a lot of stubborn people on this site, including myself.
Now, to close the subject. The wind doesn’t blow in straight lines, it swirls. We regularly have winds from the north and east bringing weather from 500 miles away and radiation radiates. It is the particles that are blown about. Also, the fishies in the sea that the birds eat are radiated, and of course those birds are eaten by the mammals that shit them out upon the land. Seattle is about 500 miles from where I am at and I can just imagine Fukushima being that close to me.
My dad used to have an artful way of ending arguments like this and as this discussion has been one of pure speculation I will implement it thusly. “I think you are right, and I might be too.” 🙂
Alright then Henry….I will set down the gloves…..Im a little more than edgy and defensive these days…as are many I presume.
Peace treaty it is….we can’t fight each other…..we must not fight each other……thats just what they want. 🙂
jhai http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058576/
I would like to add one more thing to this discussion. Don’t forget the Chinese nuclear subs. It was last year I think when we were having a navel exercise in the pacific and two or three Chinese subs surfaced right in the middle of the exercise undetected. I wouldn’t have wanted the toilet paper bill that day.
Also last year the missile launch off the west coast that no one is fessing up to has rumors that it was a Chinese sub but has never been proven. The point? Well if they can evade our sonar and our sub net detection systems they could hold the US hostage for at least a little while with those subs. The bigger question is if they can do that with their subs then what else can they do that with?
Getting troops(lots of them) on the ground might not be that hard.
Didnt I read that a china sub surfaced in the gulf of mexico last summer,will try to find the article and post.
Steve
Bill Clinton was aboard that sub off of Catalina Island REDHORSE. He was checking out the status of the missile guidance systems. He had to have some good material for his next $250,000 Chinese college speech.
LMAO! Good one Mark. Also Steve i think the one in the gulf was a Russian sub.
RedHorse,
Right you are,the rooskies sure snuck one in,just goes to show you how faded my grey matter is LOL
Steve
Lets not forget that the Chicoms control the Panama Canal zone and “supposedly” have Nationals in Mexico.
Invasion troops may already be there….
A recent VT article postulated the Russians and Chinese would work together to bring us down. The Russians would launch their ICBM’s while the Chinese would be used for the “boots on the ground” …cannon fodder…………the plan was then to take out the Chinese with Russian forces, Air Sea and Land…and leave Russia as king supreme..
I dont know what to believe anymore,..but I cant say I pass by any of it as pure propaganda or BS.
Y’all know what I mean.