Uploaded on Jun 29, 2011 by Specwog
Filmed at one of the trainings of Specwog Chief Instructor (Croatia), Dean Rostohar.
Dry fire trainings are very important – maybe even more important than shooting.
Dean Rostohar uses two type of holsters – Sidearmor speed cut kydex holster, and Safariland 6004 kydex tactical holster.
He also uses a custom made waist pack, made by company Lion d.o.o.
The timer used at this training is CED 7000 shot timer, with sensitive sensor.
Regardless his technique is solid. Speeds are quite amazing.
Nonsense, the only safe way to carry a gun is with no round in the chamber. it does not add 1/10 sec to rack the slide as the gun is extended, it takes no time. You can never have an accidental discharge with no round in the chamber.
Over and over again you see idiots let loose a round whilst unloading or merely holstering their weapon. A child cannot rack the round if they get their hands on the weapon, and many fools leave weapons lying around.
I would not allow a person in my home or business with a weapon, unless they showed that the chamber was empty.
You have either never tried or trained with racking on the arm extension, or you just don’t know what you are talking about.
all guns are to be handled and delt with as if they are always loaded ,, always period (childhood lesson people!)
so it sounds to me that people you know dont follow that rule , and neither do you?
yeah you can get shot AT by your assailant while racking your first round in , and I dont intend to be that guy
locked and loaded one up all the time I also pack DAO’s full time two of them
if that trigger isnt pushed nothing comes out the barrel period \its all about trigger control you either have it or you dont
all my guns are loaded for over 37 years.. no ones been shot , and I also dont have the “Im cleaning my gun and it went off “syndrome either
you either know WTF your doing with a firearm or you do not .. those that dont,.. get shot either by their own doing or lack of being on the ready when TSHTF.
the safe way to carry a weapon and to transfer a weapon from holster is to not have your dam finger in the trigger guard or on the trigger until your ready to make a hole in paper or kill something period!
an empty chamber is more likely to get a person that really knows how to handle a gun killed in a confrontation , than it is to make him safe .. he will be too dead to remain safe
I guess it all comes down to how knowledgeable and competent the person is in the handling of a firearm
look Im not hedging you for an argument , you do it how it works for you.. but when life gets crazier then it is now and you have no choice but to pack and be on the ready 24-7 you sure as hell aint going to do it or live long with an empty chamber
“look Im not hedging you for an argument”
Well your comments are pretty aggressive. “you sure as hell aint going to do it or live long with an empty chamber”
All the police training in my country have “Rack as you extend”.
(manual ) …duty as a police officer in the employment of the officer at all times (unless prevailing circumstances are such that the officer may be justified in using the service pistol in the course of the execution of his duties) to –
5.1 carry his service pistol in such a manner that it cannot be fired accidentally and to insure that –
5.1.1 his service pistol does not have a round in the chamber; and
5.1.2 the hammer of his service pistol is uncocked; and
5.1.3 the safety mechanism of his service pistol is engaged
Maybe that is why we don’t shoot as many innocents.
“Depending on the firearm, a safety’s on or off position may be etched next to the safety mechanism. Some firearms use a button safety that is red in color when the safety is off and they are ready to be fired. Consult the owner’s manual if you are unsure about how your firearm’s safety works or how to tell when the safety is in the on or off position! As a general rule, always keep your safety on until ready to fire your gun!
Most safeties block the trigger but not necessarily the gun’s firing mechanism. A hard blow in the right place can still discharge a firearm. Safeties also wear out and break. Never depend on a safety to prevent a gun from firing!”
I know that cowboys depend on “quick draw” and it is very impressive, but real people draw and extend so that their eye and barrel are in line with the target.
That way you don’t shoot yourself in the foot, or hit 11 bystanders.
I read of a “gang shoot out, outside a New York nightclub, with 8 members plus 2 police and 170 rounds were fired. The only person hit was by a ricochet off the ground.
As you say, you stick to what works for you, and I will stick to what works where about 50% of the population carry handguns at all times.
All our military are trained in “Rack as you extend” for handguns, and never carry with a round in the chamber, until you get to the start line. Never carry under the hammer, one of my employees had his semi-automatic slip from his holster as he sat down in the toilet. It hit the floor and sheared the safety, putting a round through his leg and hitting his artery. Very close thing. The gun shop said they had never had a hammer shear before. From then on, I would inspect to ensure.
Israeli civilian (and police and military) ALL civilian license training is trained to Rack on the extend.
The ONLY time you want to rack early is so that the enemy does not hear the slide.
“I guess it all comes down to how knowledgeable and competent the person is in the handling of a firearm.”
Yes I guess it does. If you actually tried and trained, you would discover that there is zero delay so your fear is unfounded and safety is hugely enhanced.
I carry a double action revolver, no empty chamber. It has a slide bar and cannot be fired unless the trigger is pulled. The cylinder only holds six rounds and I must insist on all six.
When I carry a semi-automatic, under normal circumstances, I leave the chamber empty, it just takes a second to jack a round in.
However, if I’m going into a situation where a second might make the difference, there’s one in the chamber and the safety is off.
Since I was a little child, I was trained to keep my finger outside the trigger guard until I’m ready to shoot. And I promise you, when I’m around any guns, whether I’m holding it or not, and I know there is a round in the barrel, I go to a whole new level of concentration and I know exactly where that gun is pointed as I assess the situation and my options.
I understand what a gun is and what it can do up close and through walls and far away. And always understand that guns don’t kill people as sure as no gun can be illegal as the responsibility for what the gun does falls on the user. If you take a hammer and hit somebody in the head, they’re hit in the head, and whatever damage is done, you have done, whether it was an accident or not.
Some people don’t have a conscience. I do. Hurting or killing someone by accident would be something I couldn’t stand, therefore I pay attention and stay in control of the situation. every time I’m around a gun.
Thanks Henry,
I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts.
There are three further thoughts on Rack on Extend.
1. I unload and make safe every time the gun leaves my hand and when it returns, this means several thousand safety checks for each time I have drawn for use. The time and trouble saved on catching (picking up, cleaning and checking) the chambered round and re-inserting it into the mag is considerable.
2. The conscious racking of the gun and the sound concentrates your mind on the fact that you are preparing to shoot (and kill) someone. You are not waving it around to intimidate or impress, you are not just putting it on or taking it off, you are not on the practise range, if something happens it is not an accident or a mistake, you are acting with pre-meditation.
3. The sound of some one racking a weapon (pistol, shotgun or rifle) seriously concentrates one’s mind if the person doing so is not friendly.
It tells your opponent that you are prepared to kill him and he has a very limited time to change his attitude.
PS My personal carry for many years, was CZ 75. A little bulky, but never a problem or stoppage and it just feels comforting. 9mm FMJ is light, but 2 or 3 hits and it gets their attention, but still has a good survival and recovery rate, which saves on paperwork.