Can somebody please explain to me why this country isn’t up in arms right now? Now that Obamacare (aka The Affordable Healthcare Act) has been shown to be one of the biggest scams in United States history, why isn’t there any action being taken?
The International Banking Mafia pulled off one of its greatest scams in 1913 with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, defrauding this country with usury from worthless fiat currency. They have done it once again with the passage of the Affordable Health Care Act. If you have not had the chance to look at these worthless healthcare plans, you will no doubt find that the premiums are anything but affordable, and the deductibles are ludicrously high.
In short, most Americans will have one of two options.
Option one is to pay the high premiums and skip food shopping, you will probably go homeless as well, and you will still be responsible for your medical bills because it’s highly unlikely you will ever reach your yearly deductible on any of these plans.
Option two is to pay the IRS penalty, which increases year after year, and can result in a lien being put on your vehicle, house, and any future tax refund you may have in the future if the penalty is not paid. Oh, and you’ll still have to pay your medical bills, which you can’t afford either.
Does anyone not understand what a shell game this is?!? Does anyone not understand that this will be the final death knell of this Republic?!? What will it take?!? Are we going to wait until they are digging ditches and lining us up to be shot in the back of the head?!?
They are already starving us, they are already poisoning us with chemtrails, HAARP, GMO foods and deadly vaccines. The militarized police are killing people on a constant basis. Martial Law is only a matter of time now. I can only hope that the fight to regain the Republic starts soon, because every second it’s delayed, is precious time that American Nationals cannot afford!
Ten reasons to present the problem:
1. Corporate media control.
2. Flouride in the water, not to mention all those on SSRI drugs,
3. Millions dependent on the dole.
4. Millions employed by state and federal governments,
5. Millions brainwashed just look at the petitions of Andrew Dice https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+dice+petition+&oq=dice+petitio&
6. Fear of the police state,
7. Confusion as to what to do,
8. Need for a leader which has not presented itself yet.
9. Lack of the churches to lead.
10. Believe in the savior JC who is to come and save them all. This is one big one in as much as it takes away any responsibility one might have to begin change.
What it will take: a MIRACLE
1) That is just scratching the surface of the Zionist global empire.
2) Some Americans are so brainwashed that they would probably swallow Ricin if their government told them it was a cure for depression.
3) Federal and state “regulations” have made starting a business here virtually impossible, the theft of our country’s natural resources compounds the problem. Some take welfare because they are addicted to it like an addict, others are on it because they don’t have any other means to survive.
4) The expenses the government incurs each year is beyond unsustainable. Federal and state employee pay and benefits are a part of that problem. Foreign aid and wars are a bigger part though.
5) Brainwashed masses are far easier to control and enslave than educated and informed masses.
6) It’s only a matter of time before the public turns on those who were entrusted to serve and protect. This will be used to declare martial law.
7) Many have been indoctrinated since childhood that the government loves and cares about the people. When reality shatters that illusion, some confusion is natural. Staying in that confusion is the biggest mistake a person can make.
8) Hoping for a leader is a grave mistake. American Nations simply have to decide as individuals to enforce the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The reason we are where we are is because we have allowed our God given rights to be slowly eroded over time.
9) Again, it’s not up to churches to lead, it’s up to each and every single one of us to defend our rights under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
10) Whatever one’s religious beliefs are, it is up to all American Nationals to protect this country from those who seek its destruction. Watching the skies for the return of Christ won’t solve any of the current issues.
It won’t take a miracle, it will take a revolution to restore the Republic.
You too are informed I couldn’t cover everything but we can continue to enlighten. Thanks for your input.
About those Mark Dice vidoes: maybe it’s because of where I live (the mountains of far west Texas) and the kind of libertarian-ish community we have, but I doubt if Dice could even hope to find even one complete idiot that he seems to attract in his videos…what I’m trying to say is perhaps the seeming idiots in his videos are aware of what he’s trying to accomplish (proving how idiot most Americans are), and are playing along. For instance: does anyone really believe most Americans don’t know Obama is a member of the Democratic Party? Could it be that he asks hundreds of people, and the only ones in the video are the idiots, with one or two who know the answer and are included so Dice can “prove” his video is legit? I know what I am talking about…in the early 70s when I was a hard core leftist I did something similar, only with paper and pencil, not with a camera.
I am not trying to “prove” Americans are not idiots–many of us are, but it seems to me that Dice is going out of his way to prove it, and could be rigging the results. That isn’t very hard to do if you know what I mean.
You can’t trust the MSM, but the alternative media isn’t very trustworthy, either.
I completely agree with you on the Mark Dice thing. He definitely seems to rig his videos to make America seem more stupid than they really are. I also think he only shows the dumb ones. I mean just look at where he interviews. Duh! It’s always the same place and always all degenerates and people who are on something or Mexicans who can’t even speak English. Not a very good consensus as far as I’m concerned.
DL,
You failed to finish your last statement in excluding FTT from your condemnation of alternative media as untrustworthy.
Just an oversight?
I really don’t think it is true that the IRS can go after your home or your car or put you in jail. This was written into the law. They can only deduct the penalty from your refund (or any future refunds).
So if you are not due a refund, then they cannot collect it from you.
What I am not sure about, though, is if the unpaid penalty accrues interest.
Regarding the medical expenses, to the best of my understanding (which may be incorrect), these plans are cost sharing plans, which means (depending on level of plan you choose, let’s choose bronze for this example) you pay 40% of all medical bills until you reach your deductible amount (your maximum) and then you pay nothing more for the year.
I want to have a factual understanding, so if I am incorrect on any of this, please set me straight.
I do not support Obamacare at all. I ran my own numbers on the Kaiser calculator (since we can do that without going on the exchanges), and my annual premium jumps from about $900 to about $3,600. I do not qualify for a subsidy because I am just over the limit. That does not mean I can afford a premium increase of $2,700. I am already one of the most frugal people you will ever meet, and there is (believe me) no more belt tightening possible. Whatsoever. So no, I do not consider this “affordable.” It is not even useful to me. I already have (fortunate me) a plan through my employer which works for me. But my employer is considering abandoning offering health insurance, and have us sign up on the exchanges.
I am older, so my plan costs more. I am perfectly healthy, don’t smoke, and never have to go to the doctor. I prefer to spend any spare money I have on organic food or herbal medicines to keep myself healthy. But herbal medicine is not allowed in Obamacare.
The liberal argument usually just comes down to, “yeah, but we all gotta pitch in and help the less fortunate — don’t you think everyone deserves basic healthcare? Of course the healthier among us will have to pay more to help support the poor.” I guess these liberal folks can afford a $300/month increase in expenses.
OK, but this plan is now going to turn me into “the poor.” I see no logic whatsoever in this plan, in these numbers. Must have been crunched by folks who will not be affected by Obamacare.
There are several terms one needs to understand when looking at health insurance:
Premium: The monthly fee for your insurance.
Deductible: How much you must kick-in for care first, before your insurer pays.
Co-pay: Your cost for routine services to which your deductible does not apply.
Co-insurance: The percentage you must pay for care after you’ve met your deductible.
Out-of-pocket maximum: The absolute max you’ll pay annually.
Your deductible and out-of-pocket maximums are annual and start over every year. Most Americans won’t even reach their deductible, let alone have money left to pay the co-insurance amounts on their medical bills.
As for tax liens, this page gives some insight, but a lot is still left to speculation: http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012/07/03/some-tax-few-will-face-obamacare-uninsured-penalty-and-irs-hamstrung-to-collect/ What I can tell you is this: if you live in a land where one can purchase a piece of land and build a house on it, pay both the land and house in full, yet have both taken away when they can no longer pay the taxes on them, nothing is sacred. As Gerald Ford once said “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.”
Thank you for these clarifications. Since I currently do not use insurance (don’t go to the doctor), I really only understand the concept of “premium” and “copay” and the other terms have been confusing to me. Your explanations make sense and are helpful. I agree, we all have to have a common terminology/understanding to be able to have factual discussions.
So…. just to make sure I’m understanding :), you are saying that the “60/40” that goes with the bronze plan is the coinsurance, not the co-pay? I don’t think I have seen anything on the Kaiser calculator about the copay, so that must be individual, per plan? Yes, this is still a bit confusing….
No matter what though, Obamacare is a bad deal for many people. Some people will seem to be much better off, and many will find themselves priced out of insurance totally, people currently insured will no doubt find themselves utterly unable to afford their new insurance costs.
Over the course of eleven years, I had worked as a medical claims examiner for Prudential Insurance, Medichoice, and Beech Street. Allow me give you and example of the differences between co-payments and co-insurance amounts. The benefits Prudential offered had two plans: major medical and HMO. Under the major medical plan, you had to meet a yearly deductible and after that, all other covered charges would be paid at 80%, the other 20% was co-insurance that the person had to pay. The plan also had a yearly out of pocket maximum, that once reached, covered charges would be paid at 100% for the remainder of that year. Under the HMO plan (health maintenance organization), there was no deductible or co-insurance. As long as you used a doctor or hospital that was in the network, charges for hospital were covered in full, lab charges were covered in full, and office visits would have a co-pay amount (back then it was $10). Obamacare seems to be a hybrid of both types of plans depending on what type of service is being rendered. In summary, these plans will not benefit anyone except the government, who will control everyone’s healthcare, take their money, and rule over them like a slave owner.
I am guessing that at first the Obamacare plans will appear to benefit people who previously were uninsured, who now qualify for fully subsidized plans. I have a friend, for example, who makes so little that he qualifies for a 100% subsidy of premiums. So, “good deal” for him! He currently is uninsured and can’t afford insurance. Yet…. that is just the premiums. He would still have to pay the coinsurance, which he has zero money for. If you have no money for healthcare, you have no money for healthcare. Insurance premiums are NOT healthcare.
I am frequently incredulous too at how very little is being done to bring the criminals in the government and banking system to justice. My conclusion is that the problems are just too big and too complicated for persons with an IQ of 80 or less to understand. Just keeping up with and understanding recent events in the context of what they really mean in terms of the NWO goals is almost equivalent to a full-time graduate level course. I believe it requires a minimum of 3 hours a day, depending on where one is with regard to actually understanding the basic NWO goals, objectives, and current progress. This requires a fairly high IQ plus a fairly decent, well-rounded education to be able to understand, for example, finances and the economy and put events within a valid historical context and perspective. So in the States, with half the population not interested in anything that can’t be eaten, f#@ked, or is not music — I believe this is a big part of the problem.
The problem is indoctrination.
“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”
-Vladimir Lenin
“Just keeping up with and understanding recent events in the context of what they really mean in terms of the NWO goals is almost equivalent to a full-time graduate level course.”
Man, and I thought I was the only one to think that. Ain’t that the truth. You could make a whole new college degree program around all of this. There’s so much to teach, it would take at least 4 years to just get the basics, followed by a graduate program that centers around just one or two major areas of interests in the program.
As a former teacher, I had often thought about what it would be like to design a curriculum on all of this and what to call it. Any ideas? Conspiracy studies? NWO studies?
“So in the States, with half the population not interested in anything that can’t be eaten, f#@ked, or is not music — I believe this is a big part of the problem.”
Again, ain’t that the truth. I deal with that every day with the young and naive co-workers at my job who are too busy listening to music, dating, playing with their I-pods and texting or social networking their lives away to give a care that SWAT just entered the building with guns pointed at them. ZOMBIES! I don’t know what else to call them. It’s sad.
You try to educate them and they just give you that look like, “Naw….that can’t be true. Man, I’m not worried about that. If the government were going to do that, then what can I really do anyways. If it happens, it happens.”
What a bunch of defeatists. They either don’t care or just gave up before it even started. Then I come on here and feel refreshed knowing that there are still many patriots and people with brains and a sense of morality in this world.
Again, this site is like the spirit food that keeps me going. It truly rocks!
I have tried to engage my high IQ liberal friends and family. I occasionally see a glimmering of disgruntlement, but they find ways to intellectually rationalize it away. I think IQ is not the reason, cause these are intelligent and educated people.
I think they see themselves as so embracing of diversity, and non-racist, that they cannot conceive in themselves that one of the reasons they voted FOR Obama is BECAUSE he is black (reverse racism). And it would be too painful to accept, that they made a stupid and ignorant decision when they voted (that is, they believe their votes count and are counted…. and they are still caught up in the left-right paradigm).
They cannot see the truth because of the doctrine of political correctness they live by. There are plenty of less intelligent folks who see the truth. Remember, it was a child who pointed out that the emperor has no clothes.
You are correct that this is very complicated. I do think that many “educated” intellectuals are unaware of logic rules or even how to think, but have been indoctrinated into thinking that they know how to think, and that that is what they are doing (but they are not). This is evident every day in the rhetoric we hear… all kinds of thinking errors and inability to discern and reconcile blatant inconsistencies and falsehoods. Cognitive dissonance causes their brains to just default to the canned responses.
Of what value is the military oath when it is entirely ignored?
Read merely the first line to understand my point.
“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
I just got to say that the good folks on this site are the smartest people I know and interact with, and you all have the best analytical minds out there. You guys bless me tremendously everyday, and I just pray that God blesses you all and that the floodgates of Heaven open up and pour out more than you can receive, pressed down, shaken, and overflowing with abundance. If there is a true remnant, I am sure that it is all of you.
Thanks, Smilardog! I am glad you are here as well.
I’ve got to say that I’m really impressed with posters on this site, too. Everyone around me seems to have their head in the sand, but people here give me hope. I think Similardog speaks for a lot of us. Thanks.
I concur! Henry, JD, Ed and the many others here at the trenches are good people with their eyes wide open to the reality we live in!
This site is what gives me hope and God knows we all need it with the way things are going. I’ve learned more from this site in regards to health, science, history, politics, computers and language than in all my years of being in school. I even re-learned some math (security question). lol
This site and all the posters and friends make me proud to be an American. Henry, JD, you guys rock!
I thank you all for allowing me to share my views whether it be when I post comments or articles. You guys are great!
Yeah, NC… I have gotten to where I can do the addition on the security questions without even using my fingers. I was getting ready to ask Henry if we can move on to simple multiplication, nothing higher than 12×12, for now, to start with. haha Seriously, I could use some time on the times tables!
People ain’t going to do sh!t until the pain & suffering drives them to desperation. The best of the best are too few to put up a frontal assult on the Zioturds & their minions. Our own monies & resources are being used against us every minute. We’ll have our Bunker Hill; just hold the line & give them better than what they give. Some know their Oaths. Good Hunting.
The only thing I know of what it will take is this, based on history, mostly: what it will take is individuals saying no more, and doing so in a spirit of unity…which is different from collectivism. Unfortunately, things live have to get a lot worse such as taxing the air we breathe, or that notion of 200 square foot apartments in hugely dense populated cities…some of us are claustrophobic…I can see some folks going bonkers living with 3 others in a 200 square foot apartment.
About 100 years ago the elites abandoned the time honored technique of “gradualism”…yes it is easy to see that the 99.9 percent are the victims, but the .1 percent that benefits are the criminal psychopaths…the only thing they can do, once the have “serfed” everyone else, is to consume each other. That is what parasites do, they have no choice, and they will not survive their evil deeds.
I for one FLAT OUT REFUSE TO COMPLY !
To any ILLEGAL DECREE,
I don’t care what they THINK they’re going to do.
When they come here, they’ll have had a very bad day.
Amen to that! Molon labe!
stop filing taxes. problem solved.