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Our agenda on this page is to “brain storm” ideas to improve our individual and collective situations, and to further our cause. There are three specific fronts that this think tank will focusing on, in no particular order:
First:We are looking for ideas to help us meet our basic needs and increase our individual resources; things that we can do to help us pay the rent, buy groceries, and pay our utility bills. If we are going to have any effect, we will need to be in an environment were we are not too cold and hungry, so that we might better use our minds. If you have no electricity or no internet, you will be unable to participate in this or any other online organized activities, and if you have no gas for you car, you will be unable to make a trip to a proposed rally at your state capital.
Second: We are in search of strategies that will help us to gain leverage over the people and/or organizations with the power to change our circumstance. We have tried appealing to our representatives’ sense of duty and moral obligation, by writing letters, sending emails, and making phone calls to their offices, and they have been unwilling to represent our interests. It has become clear to all of us that unless it is in their interest to do so, they will not act.
We must therefore come up with tactics to gain leverage over them, so that we may present situations were it is in their best interest to work on our behalf. For example: Many corporations use campaign contributions and lobbyist to gain leverage over those in public office. Thus, when public servants work on behalf of the interests of these corporations, there are at the same time working on behalf of there own interests.
Third:Ideas to generate publicity for our cause, and to increase our numbers. There is both power and safety in numbers. We will have more options, and the stradigies that we generate on the first and second fronts, will be more effective, if we can increase the number of those who participate.
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- To make a suggestion or present an idea, post a comment to this post. Any and all ideas are welcome, as long as they are not blatantly illegal. If this site gets shut down by law enforcement or if we are sent to prison, we will have limited our options significantly. We should especially be trying to think of unconventional ideas that can be utilized by those of us with limited recourses. Vague ideas are also welcome, as we can refine these ideas through discussion.
- To express your thought on an idea, post a comment to that comment. Try to give your point of view on every idea and comment that you read. We all come from wide range of backgrounds, and have a wide range of expertise. We must use this to our advantage. Do as much research as you can before presenting an idea or making a comment. If for instance you believe that a particular strategy my be illegal or simply will not work, look it up and let us all know. If you are not sure about a strategy or an idea that you have in mind, say so in your post, someone else may have more knowledge on the subject than you do.
- Once again I must ask that you do not propose anything that is obviously illegal. The idea that we get our guns and go after an adversary is not a new one. We have all thought of that. We will be unable to do ourselves, each other, or our country any good if we are in prison or dead. However, we should not limit our tactics to what we consider to be moral. Our opposition has proven that they do not heed to morality or human decency. That is why we are here. They will not pull any punches and so we must not. This is an amoral, result oriented think tank.
- Please do not use this think tank as an outlet for you complaints about your situation or your disillusion with our government. There are many other places for that. This is a pragmatic discussion, founded for the purpose of creating solutions to our problems. I think that everyone that reads this is convinced that there is a problem with the system or they would no be here. Lets limit our conversations to ideas for fixing these problems. Also, this forum is a no troll zone. Comments posted by trolls will not be added. We will be able to accomplish more without their disruptions.
- After a strategy or tactic has been refined and scrutinized by this think tank, it will be categorized into one of the three sections, and added to a list that will be posted on another page on this website. This list can then be referenced by our “Organized Resistance” section, so that our regional organizations can use these tactics and strategies.
With our combined intelligence, knowledge, and experience, I am certain that we can accomplish our task.
– D. R. Gomez WA –
I think one of the things that ought to be done is to plaster the faces of the richest members of Congress over the most popular pages of the web-site for a reminder who the real enemies are. Especially if they voted no to any benefit extensions and yes to tax cuts for the rich! If possible, show also their mansions and yachts! List their business interests so we can be sure to boycott these interests.
I think you may be on to something Mark. The more knowledge that we have about our enemy, the more effective our strategies will be. We could have a whole page dedicated to accumulating information on those that are causing our miseries. Sort of a “know your enemy” page. What do you think Henry, is this possible?
D. R. Gomez WA,
That’s sounds like a good idea. I’ll see if my son is not busy, maybe he can put it up.
have you tried wikileaks there is alot of dirt there
I say we stop saying were going to do thing things and we actually do them,, the members of this site should all make organized groups,, we gain numbers ,, and we hit back,, no more rally’s no more signs,, we need to make an impact ,, do as they did in rome,, get real support,, get people inside the government ,, if were going to change north america we need a full scale rebellion.
THE RICH and their cronies (POLITICIANS) don’t care about you !
I have written several times to my State and federal representatives/senators, governor and all the major media outlets to ask them , anybody if they could set up a secure web site so all the 99ers that have exhausted their benefits could register as to show this country, our government the truth as to the actual numbers of unemployed. I have only received form letters from my federal representatives, nothing from state government and nothing from the news outlets.. not even the Ed show on MSNBC…Go figure.
I’m not a computer guy I don’t know how to go about setting up a website to collect all of these names..
The Bureau of labour statistic mentions a 6% fudge factor in their calculations of the unemployment rate.. the media and politicians stick with the low ball figures to make themselves look good. And it makes me sick to continually push their lies.
We have to show our country the truth. Can anyone here know of a way to form a system such as we need.. “Oh” and I’ve already suggested this to all the 99er websites I could find Still no answer back since August 2010.
Thanks for the good work here. I’ll check to see if any one has ideas.
Patrick, I was recently on a website that had a great wealth of factual data regarding the issues you raise. If I can locate the site and the information I will post a link to it. It was something I stumbled into from an article that I was reading.
How did the march go today. I couldn’t make it.
Bureaucracies: Sure got a lot of them, don’t we? Why? It couldn’t be a “make work” program for the cronies of elected officials, could it? You know, a guy who seems to come out of nowhere–oh, like maybe campaign-contributor Goldman-Sachs, and shazam! Next thing you know, he’s earning outrageous money to head up an agency that performs the same task others are probably already doing. Lucky thing he “knows” somebody on Capitol Hill that owes him a favor! For example: There are at least 4 Federal Law Enforcement Agencies that perform roughly the same job. BATFE, FBI, DEA and U.S. Marshal’s Service. I suggest that the FBI can recognize drugs, illegal firearms (you know, machine guns and rocket launchers), bombs and already serves their own warrants. The FBI hiring standards are among the highest, accepting only college graduates (unlike BATFE, whose headman back in the 1990’s, one John Magaw, was only a HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE. Can you say “WACO”?), and so far as anyone knows, The FBI has never provided Mexican drug lords with any firearms .You could incorporate all four agencies under one umbrella and end (in this particular case) the quadruplication of everything—from bureaucratic hierarchies, infrastructure, cars, computers, stationery and bloated government benefit/pension plans. You could let 75% of the management and half of the work force go, and again, put us on the path to solvency. Yes, a lot of good people presently employed by the federal government would be unemployed, and though it may seem unfair at first blush, it really isn’t. It was unfair of the federal government to burden the taxpayers with its own growth to the degree it has, when the Constitution’s enumerated powers granted to it have no provision for most of the alphabet soup of agencies added since the 1930’s under the auspice of FDR and his leftist crew.
Land management: At last look, the US Government claimed ownership to about 40% of the land within the 50 states. Owned in the form of Office buildings, parking garages to serve those buildings, Courthouses, Military Bases, National Forests, National Monuments, National Parks, “Wilderness”, Wildlife Corridors, World Heritage Sites (deeded over to the UN, I understand), etc. The Constitution states that the Government may only have enough land for necessary Government offices, dockyards and magazines (munitions storage facilities). All other land “ownership” by the federal Government is unconstitutional. Managing all of this unconstitutionally owned land costs taxpayers a fortune, in National Park Service and US Forest Service offices, union payscale for rank-and-file personnel as well as salaries for various levels of management , outrageously expensive benefit packages, vehicles, computers, phones, uniforms and more. And still, our forests are poorly managed at best. Look at the horrendous fires over the past decade. I know Al Gore has successfully peddled his scam that the culprit here is “climate change” (with the “planet” being saved only by taxpayers paying even MORE taxes to government), but anyone who didn’t sleep through high school science classes (and doesn’t presently hold any elected office) already knows that these fires are caused by allowing excessive undergrowth to remain, and dead trees to accumulate. Lightning and human error cause this tinder to catch fire, and destroy our forests. So, I’ve got a better idea. How about ceding these lands over to the states in which they’re physically located, and let the taxpayers in those states decide how to use the lands, lumber, firewood and any other resources within? It’ll save the nation much-needed revenue and provide jobs for residents of those states (many of the same federal workers could stay on as STATE employees, since they most likely already reside in the state, anyway). The states can easily quash any frivolous lawsuits filed by “environmentalists” in STATE district courts, once the federal Government relinquishes its unconstitutional jurisdiction.
Endangered Species: Since every endangered species is located in a sovereign state of the union or a foreign country, just how does the federal Government justify its jurisdiction? This is simply more costly and unnecessary duplication of efforts/expenses. Each state already manages and protects its own endangered species as well as game animals and habitat, and doesn’t need meddling from Washington Bureaucrats to muck up the works. Foreign species? Can’t the countries in which these critters are found draw up their own laws to protect the man-eating, disease carrying vermin they consider to be “endangered” and bleed their own taxpayers to cover the costs? Don’t want them imported into the US? We don’t need and can’t afford a bloated, agenda-driven (and, I might add, heavily armed) US Fish & Wildlife Service to further bankrupt taxpayers. Give a list of endangered species to US Customs. Control of imported commodities is already their job and they do a GREAT job. I speak from experience here, as a guy who used to import wildlife in the early 1970’s.
And what ABOUT the Federal Reserve? Ron Paul notwithstanding, the Federal Reserve is a rather curious invention of Washington and its well-heeled banking cronies, dating back to just before WW 1. My understanding is that it isn’t and wasn’t “federal” at all. Although it’s owned by private investors (mostly foreigners, I believe) every dollar bill printed and coin minted by the US Treasury Department is essentially produced under license by the Federal Reserve. In fact, every bill is marked “Federal Reserve Note” because each bill is just that, a note. You know, a loan document. Each bill printed at the US Mint is technically a loan which taxpayers must repay to the Federal Reserve Bank, PLUS interest. Adding insult to injury, we as taxpayers must pay income tax on every dollar that touches our hands to support the very government that gave us this parasitic banking system. If we figure interest @ 3%, and tax @ 15%, each dollar the Federal Reserve “lends” us costs taxpayers $1.18. Please bear in mind, the cost for the US Treasury Dept. building, the union-scale wages for the personnel who do the actual work, the paper, ink, the printing presses, cutters and packaging machinery are already paid for BY American taxpayers over and above the $1.18. THE WAY IN WHICH THIS IS STRUCTURED, IT WOULD BE MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO EVER PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT, UNLESS ONE USED FOREIGN CURRENCY TO DO IT. If we used dollars to pay this debt, we’d owe taxes and interest on each and every one of those, too. Plus, we’d have to pay the same government workers to print, cut and distribute these “loan document dollars”. It would be an endless snake-swallowing-its-own-tail cycle, that would only end one way. Wouldn’t be pretty, either. How about this: AUDIT the Federal Reserve Bank, and make sure it’s even solvent in the first place. My guess is, it’s not. The above-reproach management of this thoroughly-protected-from-oversight institution has probably been milking its own vaults for years, and it may be tottering on the edge of bankruptcy itself. Then, the Obama administration could do what it’s done with other banks. CLOSE IT DOWN–AND DON’T BAIL IT OUT. Once the taxpayers are no longer supporting this leech of an organization, there might be some hope of eventually paying off the national debt–if government were forced to spend within its means, that is.
Why do we pay 25% of the United Nations’ operating budget? What am I getting from that collection of America-hating communists, third world dictators, religious fanatics and crooked, murderous kings that’s worth this kind of money? Maybe a better question is what are YOU getting out of it? If we are to remain a member-country of the UN (and mind you, I’m definitely not advocating that we do), how about we pay the same amount as every other country? There are about 100 member countries if I recall correctly, how about we pay 1% of the operating budget? You know, our fair share…
The core of corruption is the bank owners. It always has been the bankers that destroy republics. I really enjoy the extensive collection at supreme law to understand how the federal govt has been used as a front to enslave all citizens. For a short synopsis read these letters and you will see how big the scam is and how long it’s been going on
http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/htm/append-p.htm
In my opinion we need to begin by getting a critical mass of people to fully understand the Constitution; this is the tool that allow us, the People, to vanquish the bums(bankers), their fraudulent debt (the interest owed on treasury bonds paid for with money they “print” from nothing), and the pawns used to enforce the collection of fraudulent sugary which is the United States Inc, the federal gov’t.
What would be the point? Rich or poor they are merely expendable/replaceable puppets doing the bidding of powerful people 2 or 3 times removed from the arena.
I think one of the things that ought to be done is to plaster the faces of the richest members of Congress over the most popular pages of the web-site for a reminder who the real enemies are. Especially if they voted no to any benefit extensions and yes to tax cuts for the rich! If possible, show also their mansions and yachts! List their business interests so we can be sure to boycott these interests.
I think you may be on to something Mark. The more knowledge that we have about our enemy, the more effective our strategies will be. We could have a whole page dedicated to accumulating information on those that are causing our miseries. Sort of a “know your enemy” page. What do you think Henry, is this possible?
D. R. Gomez WA,
That’s sounds like a good idea. I’ll see if my son is not busy, maybe he can put it up.
have you tried wikileaks there is alot of dirt there
I say we stop saying were going to do thing things and we actually do them,, the members of this site should all make organized groups,, we gain numbers ,, and we hit back,, no more rally’s no more signs,, we need to make an impact ,, do as they did in rome,, get real support,, get people inside the government ,, if were going to change north america we need a full scale rebellion.
THE RICH and their cronies (POLITICIANS) don’t care about you !
I have written several times to my State and federal representatives/senators, governor and all the major media outlets to ask them , anybody if they could set up a secure web site so all the 99ers that have exhausted their benefits could register as to show this country, our government the truth as to the actual numbers of unemployed. I have only received form letters from my federal representatives, nothing from state government and nothing from the news outlets.. not even the Ed show on MSNBC…Go figure.
I’m not a computer guy I don’t know how to go about setting up a website to collect all of these names..
The Bureau of labour statistic mentions a 6% fudge factor in their calculations of the unemployment rate.. the media and politicians stick with the low ball figures to make themselves look good. And it makes me sick to continually push their lies.
We have to show our country the truth. Can anyone here know of a way to form a system such as we need.. “Oh” and I’ve already suggested this to all the 99er websites I could find Still no answer back since August 2010.
Thanks for the good work here. I’ll check to see if any one has ideas.
I would say check out Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, PhD and his website http://www.paulcraigroberts.org and http://www.shadowstats.org The fellow who runs shadowstats has indicated that the real unemployment – as measured by the methods used prior to the nonsense now in play – is approximately 23%. Dr. Roberts was President Reagan’s Assist. Treasury Secretary.
I just attempted to reach http://www.shadowstats.org and it appears there is a take-down attempt going on now. I recommend you go into Dr. Roberts’ articles and find the recent one that address the real unemployment.
http://www.shadwostats.com
This is the site I just was referring to in my response to Patrick. Excellent info on the site. No nonsense information.
How did the march go today. I couldn’t make it.
The site you speak of could be modeled exactly after a site that now exists and that is a government site. It lists, in alphabetical order, or by stae, the names of and information regarding elected officials……such as all the vital contact information. You could use that format and simply enhance it by adding additional categories to it. Actually, you could also go to a government site that shows the voting records of all the politicians with regard to specific bills. The web addresses for these eludes m e at the moment, but I am certain that someone reading this will readily have them available. It would not take a lot of genius to merge these two data banks. Then, you could add a section that reports the financial status of each of them, their business holdings and investments etc.
You could also add a “shame on you”section that would show factual information about financially illegal or questionable dealings by each individual.. For instance, Romney has BILLIONS stashed away in offshore accounts. He was given this money as a thank you for screwing over a wealthy individual that was going to help humanity. And then we have the Bush family legacy from financing the world wars, to securing all the land above the major aquifer in Paraguay (by colluding/bribing the president there into kicking off all the indigenous people’s who had always
Ives there.). This is the kind of data that needs to be made available in a massive data bank.
Perhaps it is something that Mr. Assange could or would
like to assist you with????. Meh, and his group, seem to be a wealth of information rehearing how to go about doing this type of project. They could help reveal to the world, all the dirty facts about any and all the wealthy, elected criminals who evade public scrutiny simply because many people do not even know what to look for.
We elected these people… They have jobs, they have money to buy food, electric, water. It sickens me that I have to rely on them because I can’t find a job.
I think that we are all sick of this helpless feeling, and I think I may have an idea for a tactic to help us get a little traction. I have to check a few facts, and then I will let you all know.
I asked myself: What can we do to get the attention of “our” representatives and what can we do to get the same respect from them that they give to a corporation that donates to their campaign? I know that we do not have the money to make a donation to there party that will make them care about us. So that eliminates the carrot. What’s left is the stick. I think that I may have found a way to make them afraid of us without ending up in jail. The tactic that I am considering is a very old one. It was effective in the Roman days and I think that it can be effective today. Remember during the presidential race between George W Bush, and John Kerry? Kerry arguably “lost” the election because of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign, hatched by a Neo-Con think tank. It did not matter if the allegations were true or not, just the fact that they were talked about, was enough to raise doubts and really hurt Kerry’s chances. What I am suggesting is a relentless smear campaign targeted at, not necessarily a powerful or high profile politician, but a lesser known state rep. make an example of. The scandals and allegations that we come up with do not have to be true, just plausible. Imagine if a few hundred unemployed people, with a lot of free time, were to spend just one week researching a target, then using every media outlet available, to sling mud and say god knows what about an unsuspecting public servant. We would definitely get his or her attention. Then, what if after this rep. with a recently ruined reputation was to receive a hundred letters from anonymous unemployed Americans explaining why this happened? Do you think that others politicians would become a little concerned? Now I realize that you can be sued for slander… if the person that you slandered knows who you are….. I know that there are programs that you can download for free, that mask your IP address, (I will find them and post the link) with such software, a person could sling mud in complete anonymity. Please let me know what you think of this plan. Are there any flaws? Who would make a good target? Can we get a lot of personal information on them? Remember: allegations do not have to be true, to ruin a career.
A lot of the guys have FaceBook accounts. Sometimes you can find dirt, or at least leads to dirt. Also there are some great Ideas on sites such as this :
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=103093963039130
Wouldn’t be a bad Idea to get the names of the local strip clubs near they’re homes. I am sure there would be some juicy tidbits there as well.
Excellent Mark!
To be honest, we don’t even need real dirt, just something that we can spin and embellish, and facebook is a great place to look. EVERYONE has an account. Knowledge is power, and the more we have, the more angles we can take. All of this information will fit nicely on your proposed “Know your Enemy” page. Let’s get to digging….
We elected these people… They have jobs, they have money to buy food, electric, water. It sickens me that I have to rely on them because I can’t find a job.
I think that we are all sick of this helpless feeling, and I think I may have an idea for a tactic to help us get a little traction. I have to check a few facts, and then I will let you all know.
Dig up dirt? Play the kiddy game? Why not just post the truth? Who’s asses did they kiss for money to run their races for election? How many bills did they start or back, that went against the people that put them in office. Where do they stand on the CONSTUTITION! Are they pro gun? Believe in a strong fighting force! Small goverment. Just post the facts! Hell, thats all it takes. ” I live my life, that when my feet hit the floor in the morning, the devil says “Oh CRAP!!! HE IS AWAKE!!! “
I asked myself: What can we do to get the attention of “our” representatives and what can we do to get the same respect from them that they give to a corporation that donates to their campaign? I know that we do not have the money to make a donation to there party that will make them care about us. So that eliminates the carrot. What’s left is the stick. I think that I may have found a way to make them afraid of us without ending up in jail. The tactic that I am considering is a very old one. It was effective in the Roman days and I think that it can be effective today. Remember during the presidential race between George W Bush, and John Kerry? Kerry arguably “lost” the election because of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign, hatched by a Neo-Con think tank. It did not matter if the allegations were true or not, just the fact that they were talked about, was enough to raise doubts and really hurt Kerry’s chances. What I am suggesting is a relentless smear campaign targeted at, not necessarily a powerful or high profile politician, but a lesser known state rep. make an example of. The scandals and allegations that we come up with do not have to be true, just plausible. Imagine if a few hundred unemployed people, with a lot of free time, were to spend just one week researching a target, then using every media outlet available, to sling mud and say god knows what about an unsuspecting public servant. We would definitely get his or her attention. Then, what if after this rep. with a recently ruined reputation was to receive a hundred letters from anonymous unemployed Americans explaining why this happened? Do you think that others politicians would become a little concerned? Now I realize that you can be sued for slander… if the person that you slandered knows who you are….. I know that there are programs that you can download for free, that mask your IP address, (I will find them and post the link) with such software, a person could sling mud in complete anonymity. Please let me know what you think of this plan. Are there any flaws? Who would make a good target? Can we get a lot of personal information on them? Remember: allegations do not have to be true, to ruin a career.
A lot of the guys have FaceBook accounts. Sometimes you can find dirt, or at least leads to dirt. Also there are some great Ideas on sites such as this :
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=103093963039130
Wouldn’t be a bad Idea to get the names of the local strip clubs near they’re homes. I am sure there would be some juicy tidbits there as well.
Excellent Mark!
To be honest, we don’t even need real dirt, just something that we can spin and embellish, and facebook is a great place to look. EVERYONE has an account. Knowledge is power, and the more we have, the more angles we can take. All of this information will fit nicely on your proposed “Know your Enemy” page. Let’s get to digging….
Henry
I am still posting the information all over the Internet. I really believe that we should form a protest for Thanksgiving Day. That gives us almost 2 weeks to come up with an idea. Also, I am thinking about something that I will share with you but first I wanted to know if children can participate in a protest, or is it illegal?
Barbara,
No it’s not illegal, but it is a bad idea. At the WTO protest in Seattle, police actually pepper sprayed a baby in a stroller in the face.
As for Thanksgiving, it’s less than a week away, I doubt that anything could be organized that quick. At present we only have 18 people spread over thirteen states on our Organize list. I don’t want to discourage your trying, so if you know enough people in your own area, and can gather them together quick enough, it would be a good idea. But as far as something nation wide, It is just not feasible at this point.
Until enough of our people become serious enough I’m afraid all we can do is try to make contact with them through every venue available and bring them here to be organized.
Do you know how some groups like PETA for example, will make a big scene and jump all over issues that seem insignificant to most people? Perhaps we could use the overzealous energy of some of these groups to our advantage. When you take on a big opponent, even if you are relatively small, it doesn’t matter if win, you get the same attention as your opponent.
Now this sounds a little wacky but with some fine tuning it could possibly work:
Suppose someone was to orchestrate a publicity stunt where a desperate group 99ers resorted to butchering stray dogs, cats, song birds, and rats, and selling them on the street to other 99ers as they have no other food for Thanksgiving.
Now I’m not suggesting that anyone kill a dog or a cat, you wouldn’t have to. All that you would need is a few friends, big sign, a stand, and some old beef. A call or letter to the local media should get the word out. If PETA caught wind, it could bring national attention.
Just an Idea. Let me know what you think……
Justin99 OR,
Now people are starting to think. Ingenious in its simplicity.
Barbara, I think this would work and it would only take a couple of people to do it. Set a stand and have a friend call the news. Get somebody to film it and post it on Youtube, maybe it will go viral.
Sounds great to me. I don’t know what I was thinking, it is less than a week till Thanksgiving. I don’t understand why people are not responding. I even put it on facebook. I’ll just have to do more.
I love it! That’s just the kind of unconventional tactics that we are looking for. This would also make a great internet rumor: “99ers Forced to Eat Dog Meat”. I think I’ll start working on a phony AP article complete with a photo shop doctored picture of a Thanksgiving Day terrier. Remember people: any publicity is good publicity, and this should get publicity!
I like the idea of a Thanksgiving Day protest and I think Facebook is a great place to start. We could ask that everyone simply turn off the television on Thanksgiving. All the ratings for the Thanksgiving Day parade, football games and everything else would simply drop and they would all start scratching their heads. I also like the idea of peaceful protests at local unemployment offices. I think the reality of this situation is beginning to sink in to the thick skulls of some of our politicians. Even the governor of California has admitted that not passing Tier V extensions is extremely dangerous to his state where the unemployment figure of 12.4% remains unchanged. I also think that rallying with the “Food not Bombs” group would bring this group closer to to its’ goal
Henry
I am still posting the information all over the Internet. I really believe that we should form a protest for Thanksgiving Day. That gives us almost 2 weeks to come up with an idea. Also, I am thinking about something that I will share with you but first I wanted to know if children can participate in a protest, or is it illegal?
Barbara,
No it’s not illegal, but it is a bad idea. At the WTO protest in Seattle, police actually pepper sprayed a baby in a stroller in the face.
As for Thanksgiving, it’s less than a week away, I doubt that anything could be organized that quick. At present we only have 18 people spread over thirteen states on our Organize list. I don’t want to discourage your trying, so if you know enough people in your own area, and can gather them together quick enough, it would be a good idea. But as far as something nation wide, It is just not feasible at this point.
Until enough of our people become serious enough I’m afraid all we can do is try to make contact with them through every venue available and bring them here to be organized.
Do you know how some groups like PETA for example, will make a big scene and jump all over issues that seem insignificant to most people? Perhaps we could use the overzealous energy of some of these groups to our advantage. When you take on a big opponent, even if you are relatively small, it doesn’t matter if win, you get the same attention as your opponent.
Now this sounds a little wacky but with some fine tuning it could possibly work:
Suppose someone was to orchestrate a publicity stunt where a desperate group 99ers resorted to butchering stray dogs, cats, song birds, and rats, and selling them on the street to other 99ers as they have no other food for Thanksgiving.
Now I’m not suggesting that anyone kill a dog or a cat, you wouldn’t have to. All that you would need is a few friends, big sign, a stand, and some old beef. A call or letter to the local media should get the word out. If PETA caught wind, it could bring national attention.
Just an Idea. Let me know what you think……
Justin99 OR,
Now people are starting to think. Ingenious in its simplicity.
Barbara, I think this would work and it would only take a couple of people to do it. Set a stand and have a friend call the news. Get somebody to film it and post it on Youtube, maybe it will go viral.
Sounds great to me. I don’t know what I was thinking, it is less than a week till Thanksgiving. I don’t understand why people are not responding. I even put it on facebook. I’ll just have to do more.
I love it! That’s just the kind of unconventional tactics that we are looking for. This would also make a great internet rumor: “99ers Forced to Eat Dog Meat”. I think I’ll start working on a phony AP article complete with a photo shop doctored picture of a Thanksgiving Day terrier. Remember people: any publicity is good publicity, and this should get publicity!
I like the idea of a Thanksgiving Day protest and I think Facebook is a great place to start. We could ask that everyone simply turn off the television on Thanksgiving. All the ratings for the Thanksgiving Day parade, football games and everything else would simply drop and they would all start scratching their heads. I also like the idea of peaceful protests at local unemployment offices. I think the reality of this situation is beginning to sink in to the thick skulls of some of our politicians. Even the governor of California has admitted that not passing Tier V extensions is extremely dangerous to his state where the unemployment figure of 12.4% remains unchanged. I also think that rallying with the “Food not Bombs” group would bring this group closer to to its’ goal
I know people who lost their jobs, and when their UI expired, applied for and are now living on student financial aid. I think that this is easy to do. You don’t even have to go to college, the people that I know are just taking classes online. They only get a couple thousand every three months and they will eventually have to pay the loan portion back, but its enough to keep the electricity on. Here is a link to the FASFA page: http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/
I hope this helps…
I know people who lost their jobs, and when their UI expired, applied for and are now living on student financial aid. I think that this is easy to do. You don’t even have to go to college, the people that I know are just taking classes online. They only get a couple thousand every three months and they will eventually have to pay the loan portion back, but its enough to keep the electricity on. Here is a link to the FASFA page: http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/
I hope this helps…
Count me in . 99er for 8 months now. Fed up in Oklahoma. Justin-you’re sick. I love it!!
Good info. I also know people who are doing the same thing. Some of them even had previous outstanding student loans and were able to get money. This is also a great way to acquire valuable skills. Web page building skills would be particularly valuable to our cause. Just a thought…
Count me in . 99er for 8 months now. Fed up in Oklahoma. Justin-you’re sick. I love it!!
Good info. I also know people who are doing the same thing. Some of them even had previous outstanding student loans and were able to get money. This is also a great way to acquire valuable skills. Web page building skills would be particularly valuable to our cause. Just a thought…
Tiers 1-4 and all the 99’ers need to work together!!! We need to beat our own drum because no else will. We need to be writing our local TV stations, newspapers, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc to get some major exposure on this issue. The more exposure we get, the better our changes! I believe the Tier 1-4 people will get their extension; but, the 99ers need all the help we can get!!!!!!!!!! Let’s get to work now!!!!!!!!!
Tiers 1-4 and all the 99’ers need to work together!!! We need to beat our own drum because no else will. We need to be writing our local TV stations, newspapers, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc to get some major exposure on this issue. The more exposure we get, the better our changes! I believe the Tier 1-4 people will get their extension; but, the 99ers need all the help we can get!!!!!!!!!! Let’s get to work now!!!!!!!!!
There is one thing that really bugs me and I think we can bring up on a Facebook page……is the number of offices these reps have in each State and one in DC….all are staffed year round. Taxpayers pay the Rent and Salaries there……yet congress Reps/Sen. never go into the State offices until re-election. According to Budgets website, House not to exceed 18 full time and 4 part time staff and Sen. depends on size of districts.
In DC, House on average 14 staff and Sen. average 34 staff. When you go on their websites count the number of Offices in your State, call the offices and ask how many staff, how offten they see their Rep during the year ext. We can use this info to post on our page!
This would be a great subject for a petition, although I think that it may be more successful at the state level. (I assume the money for these in-stat offices comes from the state budget?) I’m thinking that we should do a little research and choose a state were this kind of petition could easily be toured into a proposition. With the current political atmosphere were a lot of people are outraged by frivolous government spending, collecting signatures for a petition like the one that you are suggesting should be fairly easy. Besides the people who work in these offices, who wouldn’t sign the petition?
As soon as a proposition made it on a stat ballot, it would get national attention. We could use this issue to bring attention to our cause as well. “They spend how much on unused offices and office personnel? And we are left to starve?!”
Also, we could lend this issue to an up-and –coming political opponent looking to unseat the incumbent, and let them spend their resources getting the word out. Its always better to use a “cat’s paw” to do some of the work for you.
What do you think? Does anyone know how to start an online petition? What state should we choose?
You can start a free online petition here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/
According to this page: http://aauwboulder.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/informed-pt2/, Colorado is one of the easiest states to get a measure on the ballot.
There is one thing that really bugs me and I think we can bring up on a Facebook page……is the number of offices these reps have in each State and one in DC….all are staffed year round. Taxpayers pay the Rent and Salaries there……yet congress Reps/Sen. never go into the State offices until re-election. According to Budgets website, House not to exceed 18 full time and 4 part time staff and Sen. depends on size of districts.
In DC, House on average 14 staff and Sen. average 34 staff. When you go on their websites count the number of Offices in your State, call the offices and ask how many staff, how offten they see their Rep during the year ext. We can use this info to post on our page!
This would be a great subject for a petition, although I think that it may be more successful at the state level. (I assume the money for these in-stat offices comes from the state budget?) I’m thinking that we should do a little research and choose a state were this kind of petition could easily be toured into a proposition. With the current political atmosphere were a lot of people are outraged by frivolous government spending, collecting signatures for a petition like the one that you are suggesting should be fairly easy. Besides the people who work in these offices, who wouldn’t sign the petition?
As soon as a proposition made it on a stat ballot, it would get national attention. We could use this issue to bring attention to our cause as well. “They spend how much on unused offices and office personnel? And we are left to starve?!”
Also, we could lend this issue to an up-and –coming political opponent looking to unseat the incumbent, and let them spend their resources getting the word out. Its always better to use a “cat’s paw” to do some of the work for you.
What do you think? Does anyone know how to start an online petition? What state should we choose?
You can start a free online petition here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/
According to this page: http://aauwboulder.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/informed-pt2/, Colorado is one of the easiest states to get a measure on the ballot.
There is a good and safe website in/on Washington. Maybe you know of it. opensecrets.org…check it out
There is a good and safe website in/on Washington. Maybe you know of it. opensecrets.org…check it out
I am trying to think of something different and out of the box. The standard way of moving forward seems to be ignored, it may not be possible as I am not a lawyer, however it is a thought.
Now for the out of the box sounding crazy idea. Years ago I worked for a PAMI group as a paralegal. The lawyer I worked with there used to say you can sue anyone for anything, though you may not win. If we, the long term unemployed are going to be heard by congress we need to make a BIG noise. We know Mitch McConnell and Jon Boehner have both made comments about the unemployed being lazy, living off the system and not really wanting to go back to work. I know there are others within congress who have said the same thing. We also know that for 99% of the unemployed this is not true. So, my idea is to file a slander and libel class action suit against the good senators since their remarks could be seen as causing undue discrimination by possible employers. The idea here is NOT TO WIN it is to DRAW ATTENTION TO THE UNEMPLOYED AND OUR PLIGHT. My thinking is that if such a lawsuit were brought in federal court the national news would pick it up very quickly and would finally give us the air time to be kept from being swept under the rug anymore. It would also bring negative exposure to the people who have been using us as scape goats.
Any out of work lawyers out there have a reposnse? Again, this is a crazy idea, and may not be possible, just trying to brainstorm here and maybe think of a different approach.
Do the same thing with John Kerry dodging taxes in his own state from docking his 7 million dollar yacht ” Isabel” in Rhode Island rather than Massachussetts, causing an already strapped state to loose out on hard cash. See below:
http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978392705
I like this idea very much…slander and libel suit. These boys words truly have demeaned us. It is a no brainer. Is it not obvious to them that anyone who has worked for 30-40 years enjoys working; that people’s self identity is highly connected to their work.
I am an out of work lawyer, I hate those two Mitch and Joe, and Scott Brown him too, but the law suit is frivolous, though arguably warranted, it would be dismissed before it generated any noise.
Like some of the ideas I am hearing though…its very sad when despite having lost almost everything due to wallstreet greed, must now deal with a congress who is USING us as fodder to bring down Obama admin. Never in past decades-check out the 70’s-when UI rate was sop high have americans collecting been so vilified. Not my parants country, and not the country I grew up in…
The lobbying laws destroyed the american political system, that’s a fact.
I am trying to think of something different and out of the box. The standard way of moving forward seems to be ignored, it may not be possible as I am not a lawyer, however it is a thought.
Now for the out of the box sounding crazy idea. Years ago I worked for a PAMI group as a paralegal. The lawyer I worked with there used to say you can sue anyone for anything, though you may not win. If we, the long term unemployed are going to be heard by congress we need to make a BIG noise. We know Mitch McConnell and Jon Boehner have both made comments about the unemployed being lazy, living off the system and not really wanting to go back to work. I know there are others within congress who have said the same thing. We also know that for 99% of the unemployed this is not true. So, my idea is to file a slander and libel class action suit against the good senators since their remarks could be seen as causing undue discrimination by possible employers. The idea here is NOT TO WIN it is to DRAW ATTENTION TO THE UNEMPLOYED AND OUR PLIGHT. My thinking is that if such a lawsuit were brought in federal court the national news would pick it up very quickly and would finally give us the air time to be kept from being swept under the rug anymore. It would also bring negative exposure to the people who have been using us as scape goats.
Any out of work lawyers out there have a reposnse? Again, this is a crazy idea, and may not be possible, just trying to brainstorm here and maybe think of a different approach.
Do the same thing with John Kerry dodging taxes in his own state from docking his 7 million dollar yacht ” Isabel” in Rhode Island rather than Massachussetts, causing an already strapped state to loose out on hard cash. See below:
http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978392705
I like this idea very much…slander and libel suit. These boys words truly have demeaned us. It is a no brainer. Is it not obvious to them that anyone who has worked for 30-40 years enjoys working; that people’s self identity is highly connected to their work.
I am an out of work lawyer, I hate those two Mitch and Joe, and Scott Brown him too, but the law suit is frivolous, though arguably warranted, it would be dismissed before it generated any noise.
Like some of the ideas I am hearing though…its very sad when despite having lost almost everything due to wallstreet greed, must now deal with a congress who is USING us as fodder to bring down Obama admin. Never in past decades-check out the 70’s-when UI rate was sop high have americans collecting been so vilified. Not my parants country, and not the country I grew up in…
The lobbying laws destroyed the american political system, that’s a fact.
Bravo! Legal action is one thing that, still cant be completely ignored in this country. I don’t think that it would be terribly difficult to find an attorney to take this case considering the kind of wealth enjoyed by members of our congress,(see The Top Ten Most Wealthy Members of Congress page, under the Know Your Enemies section) and the fact that 99ers arguably have a case! I don’t think that an attorney would need to be out of work to take this kind of case. I think that this is definitely something that we should explore. What legal area of expertise does this sort of thing fall under? Which legal firms specializes in this area? Would this tactic be more effective if instead of being a class action suit, it consisted of 20,000 individual lawsuits, using a “standard form” without the help of an attorney?
Yes John has an excellent idea. That would open a huge Pandoras Box of claims, mental and other unjust medical issues brought on by Mitch McConnells “profiling” slanderous comments.
Bravo! Legal action is one thing that, still cant be completely ignored in this country. I don’t think that it would be terribly difficult to find an attorney to take this case considering the kind of wealth enjoyed by members of our congress,(see The Top Ten Most Wealthy Members of Congress page, under the Know Your Enemies section) and the fact that 99ers arguably have a case! I don’t think that an attorney would need to be out of work to take this kind of case. I think that this is definitely something that we should explore. What legal area of expertise does this sort of thing fall under? Which legal firms specializes in this area? Would this tactic be more effective if instead of being a class action suit, it consisted of 20,000 individual lawsuits, using a “standard form” without the help of an attorney?
Yes John has an excellent idea. That would open a huge Pandoras Box of claims, mental and other unjust medical issues brought on by Mitch McConnells “profiling” slanderous comments.
Just an idea:
The few opportunities I have had to mention trying to organize some sort of rally for us 99ers in my area I have been told “no, it will only lead to riots and we will go to jail”. So what if there was a way to advertise via a web-site such as this one a “peaceful demonstration” in hopes of gaining far greater participation. Since most of us are very limited financially and travel is not likely an option, I thought of a more pratical approach. To organize these “peaceful demonstrations” and set dates for the unemployed people to go to their local unemployment offices and gather at the entrance doors holding signs and protesting and demonstrating. Have dates set so this will happen across the Nation on the same day and do it several times if neccessary. Maybe even slip a note to the unemployment office prior to so they will freak out and hopefully have the media involved and feel the need to hire armed gaurds like the state of Indiana claims to have done. If we could create the need for the Governors of a bunch of different states to have to go into their state budgets to hire additional security for this, one would think they would start complaining to Washington. I guess you could say the goal here would be to get one corrupted Politician to buck against another corrupted Politician in hopes of gaining much needed leverage in our fight. There would be no choice if they liked it or not but to add additional security if we could get enough participation which would put a big burden on state budgets. Fight fire with fire and cause the corrupted bastards to argue amongst themselves on our behalf. Maybe a stupid idea folks I don’t know, just trying to come up with something.
Mark – Tenn,
Not a stupid idea at all. Our list is growing every day. Once it reaches a certain point organizing a protest such as you are suggesting would be a very logical step to take. As for the immediate future I truly do like some of the unconventional tactics being discussed on this page. The main thing is, don’t give up. Remember, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step and I believe the distance we have covered since this website came online represents a realistic chance of success.
Thanks Henry, and for all you are doing for us as well, thank you.
Excellent! Your logic is sound Mark. If we can get enough people involved, I think at least ten people at a particular office, on the same day; I don’t think that there is any way that this tactic could fail. Perhaps we should be organizing ourselves the same way that the department of human recourses organizes us: by unemployment office. For example; instead of 5 people showing up at one office, and another 5 showing up at an office 15 miles away an a neighboring town, all ten arrive at the predetermined unemployment office. If we can get enough people to commit to their respective office, we could rely make some waves. Henry, can we “tweak” the Organized Resistance page, to accommodate this kind of organization? Any ideas on how to get more people to come to this site and get on board?
D.R. Gomez,
At the top of the Organize Resistance Page it is noted that if anyone wants to organize an event, all they need do is send an email to this site at henryshivley@fromthetrenchesworldreport.com naming and describing the event and we will create its own page. I think this is the most efficient way to focus on a single event, though I am open to suggestions.
The rally will be called: The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance (NREUI for the sake of simplicity in getting the word out and to better appeal to internet search engines) I am collaborating with the editor at fromthetrenchesworldreport.com to get a page set up before the end of the day.
Thanks D. R. Gomez,
I also think your idea is excellent by having people to do this at the unemployment offices they originally signed up at. At my unemployment office, A.K.A. “Career Center,” there is a sidewalk coming from the parking area that leads right to glass entrance doors. If 5 to 10 people were gathered there like you suggested and holding protest signs, it would be impossible not to create an unwelcomed showing. And hopefully the state would be compelled to add security putting the real goal in motion.
Just an idea:
The few opportunities I have had to mention trying to organize some sort of rally for us 99ers in my area I have been told “no, it will only lead to riots and we will go to jail”. So what if there was a way to advertise via a web-site such as this one a “peaceful demonstration” in hopes of gaining far greater participation. Since most of us are very limited financially and travel is not likely an option, I thought of a more pratical approach. To organize these “peaceful demonstrations” and set dates for the unemployed people to go to their local unemployment offices and gather at the entrance doors holding signs and protesting and demonstrating. Have dates set so this will happen across the Nation on the same day and do it several times if neccessary. Maybe even slip a note to the unemployment office prior to so they will freak out and hopefully have the media involved and feel the need to hire armed gaurds like the state of Indiana claims to have done. If we could create the need for the Governors of a bunch of different states to have to go into their state budgets to hire additional security for this, one would think they would start complaining to Washington. I guess you could say the goal here would be to get one corrupted Politician to buck against another corrupted Politician in hopes of gaining much needed leverage in our fight. There would be no choice if they liked it or not but to add additional security if we could get enough participation which would put a big burden on state budgets. Fight fire with fire and cause the corrupted bastards to argue amongst themselves on our behalf. Maybe a stupid idea folks I don’t know, just trying to come up with something.
Mark – Tenn,
Not a stupid idea at all. Our list is growing every day. Once it reaches a certain point organizing a protest such as you are suggesting would be a very logical step to take. As for the immediate future I truly do like some of the unconventional tactics being discussed on this page. The main thing is, don’t give up. Remember, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step and I believe the distance we have covered since this website came online represents a realistic chance of success.
Thanks Henry, and for all you are doing for us as well, thank you.
Excellent! Your logic is sound Mark. If we can get enough people involved, I think at least ten people at a particular office, on the same day; I don’t think that there is any way that this tactic could fail. Perhaps we should be organizing ourselves the same way that the department of human recourses organizes us: by unemployment office. For example; instead of 5 people showing up at one office, and another 5 showing up at an office 15 miles away an a neighboring town, all ten arrive at the predetermined unemployment office. If we can get enough people to commit to their respective office, we could rely make some waves. Henry, can we “tweak” the Organized Resistance page, to accommodate this kind of organization? Any ideas on how to get more people to come to this site and get on board?
D.R. Gomez,
At the top of the Organize Resistance Page it is noted that if anyone wants to organize an event, all they need do is send an email to this site at henryshivley@fromthetrenchesworldreport.com naming and describing the event and we will create its own page. I think this is the most efficient way to focus on a single event, though I am open to suggestions.
The rally will be called: The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance (NREUI for the sake of simplicity in getting the word out and to better appeal to internet search engines) I am collaborating with the editor at fromthetrenchesworldreport.com to get a page set up before the end of the day.
Thanks D. R. Gomez,
I also think your idea is excellent by having people to do this at the unemployment offices they originally signed up at. At my unemployment office, A.K.A. “Career Center,” there is a sidewalk coming from the parking area that leads right to glass entrance doors. If 5 to 10 people were gathered there like you suggested and holding protest signs, it would be impossible not to create an unwelcomed showing. And hopefully the state would be compelled to add security putting the real goal in motion.
I’m on board with y’all. I’m already lovin’ the lawsuit idea, and the “eating cats & dogs” thing sounds good, too. Maybe we could do something like creating simulated tent cities or automobile cities (people living in their cars – with their kids) in some of the areas with the highest unemployment rates – and invite ALL media, but specifically local stations then make sure we get the videos viral on u-tube, making sure its not our videos only.
Whatever we come up with while brainstorming can only help.
Oh, and I’m in SC – moved from PA thinking I could move in relatives in case (or when) my son and I become homeless.
I’m on board with y’all. I’m already lovin’ the lawsuit idea, and the “eating cats & dogs” thing sounds good, too. Maybe we could do something like creating simulated tent cities or automobile cities (people living in their cars – with their kids) in some of the areas with the highest unemployment rates – and invite ALL media, but specifically local stations then make sure we get the videos viral on u-tube, making sure its not our videos only.
Whatever we come up with while brainstorming can only help.
Oh, and I’m in SC – moved from PA thinking I could move in relatives in case (or when) my son and I become homeless.
I guess my other reply went bye bye somewhere in cyberspace. In any case, I’m on board ya’ll.
Maybe build a simulated tent city or car-city in some of the highest unemployment areas, then invite all media and get their vids viral on u-tube.
Love the lawsuits idea for sure.
I guess my other reply went bye bye somewhere in cyberspace. In any case, I’m on board ya’ll.
Maybe build a simulated tent city or car-city in some of the highest unemployment areas, then invite all media and get their vids viral on u-tube.
Love the lawsuits idea for sure.
People of the U.S unite… Help us save our country and enforce our laws at USMOA.ORG
People of the U.S unite… Help us save our country and enforce our laws at USMOA.ORG
OK, Was just talking with a friend who is an attorney, and thinks we actaully could survive a section 56 motion, a motion to prvent us from heading to trial if we fialed as a class. No he doesn’t want to take the case as of yet out of fear of loosing his job…though again, there has got to be an attorney out there out out of work or who wants to make a name..also, he said a personnal injury attorney probably would not be able to handle this kind of case..we are looking for a civil rights guy or woman…go figure….we need the people that enforce the constitution….Oh Mark S-NV…Jon Kerry was exposed and as a result paid the tax on the boat voluntarily, that is exactly what we are tying to do here..expose the problem..so which office are you working for that wants to undermind us and keep us from succeeding…..you do know I think you guys are out there,
I want to apologize for the very last line of that post, while Kerry did pay the tax after being exposed, the rest of it was out of line and a bit over the top. I thought I had deleted it before posting, when I looked at the site again this morning I saw it was there. Again, I apologize, I do not think this is a place where we need to start debating and infighting.
I’m not trying to become the WIZARD OF DIRT. I’m trying to get the word out of which hurts Americans by these clowns. This is why we all need to work together here. If you find mistakes then correct them as you did. Kerry tried to get away with something and got caught. He paid because he had to. Not because he wanted to. As explained in the statements above by D.R Gomez:
“2.To express your thought on an idea, post a comment to that comment. Try to give your point of view on every idea and comment that you read. We all come from wide range of backgrounds, and have a wide range of expertise. We must use this to our advantage. Do as much research as you can before presenting an idea or making a comment. If for instance you believe that a particular strategy my be illegal or simply will not work, look it up and let us all know. If you are not sure about a strategy or an idea that you have in mind, say so in your post, someone else may have more knowledge on the subject than you do.”
Thanks for your understanding John.
Mark S.
Just as I thought John, you had mentioned above about our friend the “Tax Skipper” Senator John Kerry paying his taxes on his yacht, well, a little more digging proved my point. Four months after he said that he would pay he still hasn’t. See below:
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/deadbeat-john-kerry-still-hasnt-paid-the-taxes-on-his-7-million-yacht
I’m glad I followed up. The guy is clearly a scum bag.
OK, Was just talking with a friend who is an attorney, and thinks we actaully could survive a section 56 motion, a motion to prvent us from heading to trial if we fialed as a class. No he doesn’t want to take the case as of yet out of fear of loosing his job…though again, there has got to be an attorney out there out out of work or who wants to make a name..also, he said a personnal injury attorney probably would not be able to handle this kind of case..we are looking for a civil rights guy or woman…go figure….we need the people that enforce the constitution….Oh Mark S-NV…Jon Kerry was exposed and as a result paid the tax on the boat voluntarily, that is exactly what we are tying to do here..expose the problem..so which office are you working for that wants to undermind us and keep us from succeeding…..you do know I think you guys are out there,
I want to apologize for the very last line of that post, while Kerry did pay the tax after being exposed, the rest of it was out of line and a bit over the top. I thought I had deleted it before posting, when I looked at the site again this morning I saw it was there. Again, I apologize, I do not think this is a place where we need to start debating and infighting.
I’m not trying to become the WIZARD OF DIRT. I’m trying to get the word out of which hurts Americans by these clowns. This is why we all need to work together here. If you find mistakes then correct them as you did. Kerry tried to get away with something and got caught. He paid because he had to. Not because he wanted to. As explained in the statements above by D.R Gomez:
“2.To express your thought on an idea, post a comment to that comment. Try to give your point of view on every idea and comment that you read. We all come from wide range of backgrounds, and have a wide range of expertise. We must use this to our advantage. Do as much research as you can before presenting an idea or making a comment. If for instance you believe that a particular strategy my be illegal or simply will not work, look it up and let us all know. If you are not sure about a strategy or an idea that you have in mind, say so in your post, someone else may have more knowledge on the subject than you do.”
Thanks for your understanding John.
Mark S.
Just as I thought John, you had mentioned above about our friend the “Tax Skipper” Senator John Kerry paying his taxes on his yacht, well, a little more digging proved my point. Four months after he said that he would pay he still hasn’t. See below:
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/deadbeat-john-kerry-still-hasnt-paid-the-taxes-on-his-7-million-yacht
I’m glad I followed up. The guy is clearly a scum bag.
We have tweaked the Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance page. Please go there and post your employment office’s address to be added to the list.
We have tweaked the Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance page. Please go there and post your employment office’s address to be added to the list.
Being a 99er I feel very sad to think the government would turn their back oin me after 49 years of pledging my love to my country. I agree this is a great place to look for hope by using our brains to find a solution.
I propose the following:
#1 We need to stop crying and show the government what will happen when we are all forced to live without money. Possibly to do the following:
Find any all all organizations that 99ers can turn to for help and publish them. If we all bombard these pplaces they will jump onto the bandwagon for our cause. There is not help organization out there that I feel can undertake the mass numbers of people like us that will turn to them for aid.
Right now while we still have benefits we need to stop all spending that isn’t necessary. NO extras. We also need to point out to the places we no longer spend money at why the spending has stopped. Think about the way we could show the people that are now making money from us how it will be when our benefits stop.
Another think worth doing is for each of us to send messages to our President asking him to sign an executive order to get us the help we need. We clearly out number the House and the Senate. Possibly enclose a cheap pen with your letter to tell our President we need him to write that order now!
Last I will say I am willing to help anyone here to organize any thoughts and put them into motion. Together we can make the Tier 5 become reality and also hopefully make the powers that be help us to return back to the hard working people we all want to be.
God Bless us All
Being a 99er I feel very sad to think the government would turn their back oin me after 49 years of pledging my love to my country. I agree this is a great place to look for hope by using our brains to find a solution.
I propose the following:
#1 We need to stop crying and show the government what will happen when we are all forced to live without money. Possibly to do the following:
Find any all all organizations that 99ers can turn to for help and publish them. If we all bombard these pplaces they will jump onto the bandwagon for our cause. There is not help organization out there that I feel can undertake the mass numbers of people like us that will turn to them for aid.
Right now while we still have benefits we need to stop all spending that isn’t necessary. NO extras. We also need to point out to the places we no longer spend money at why the spending has stopped. Think about the way we could show the people that are now making money from us how it will be when our benefits stop.
Another think worth doing is for each of us to send messages to our President asking him to sign an executive order to get us the help we need. We clearly out number the House and the Senate. Possibly enclose a cheap pen with your letter to tell our President we need him to write that order now!
Last I will say I am willing to help anyone here to organize any thoughts and put them into motion. Together we can make the Tier 5 become reality and also hopefully make the powers that be help us to return back to the hard working people we all want to be.
God Bless us All
Pardon me, Barbara ? Henry?
For so, so long now I’ve been searching for an opportunity to get involved. Everytume I see that “Dirtbag” (M. McConnell) on the screen I feel like bashing-it w/ a baseball bat! What I want to do is wear or display a sign “Army Vet, no job, zero income. Thx Republicans!” I also like the “Who’s your enemy” idea. I would love nothing more than to expose these greedy maggots for what they’re really about. I’m in NYC & fired-up about so much obstruction. Thanks guys.
Pardon me, Barbara ? Henry?
For so, so long now I’ve been searching for an opportunity to get involved. Everytume I see that “Dirtbag” (M. McConnell) on the screen I feel like bashing-it w/ a baseball bat! What I want to do is wear or display a sign “Army Vet, no job, zero income. Thx Republicans!” I also like the “Who’s your enemy” idea. I would love nothing more than to expose these greedy maggots for what they’re really about. I’m in NYC & fired-up about so much obstruction. Thanks guys.
I’m a “99er” who is brand new to this website, and I’m impressed and heartened to have found like-minded Americans. I agree that the “dogs &cats” idea is a good one. You really need something outlandish in this age of instant gratification and media overload to get the peoples attention. I’m going to start cranking up my brain right now,to come up with some ideas that might help, and hopefully be worthwhile. Glad I found you all. I’ll be back.
Where are you from, Brad?
Angel, I live on the outskirts of Charlotte, NC. I moved out here with my ex wife in late ’94 from Ventura, Ca. We split up in ’04 and I’ve been raising our son on my own since then ( he’s 14 now ). I got laid off from my telecommunications job at the end of Aug. ’08, can’t get ANY job if my life depended on it, and my benefits ran out the first week of Oct. With the exception of food stamps, the NC state won’t help us at all. Christian agencies have been helping us for the last 2 months with our rent and utilities, but now that avenue is exhausted, and we are facing being homeless. I’ve worked all my life, and paid my taxes, and now the first time I’ve ever asked for assistance, I can’t get jack. This country can support the world, but not it’s own citizens. I’m mad as hell, Angel and I’m ready for action ! It’s time our government woke up to plight of the American people, and I’m willing and able to shake, rattle, and roll their rich ass till they do. God bless America !
I’m a “99er” who is brand new to this website, and I’m impressed and heartened to have found like-minded Americans. I agree that the “dogs &cats” idea is a good one. You really need something outlandish in this age of instant gratification and media overload to get the peoples attention. I’m going to start cranking up my brain right now,to come up with some ideas that might help, and hopefully be worthwhile. Glad I found you all. I’ll be back.
Where are you from, Brad?
Angel, I live on the outskirts of Charlotte, NC. I moved out here with my ex wife in late ’94 from Ventura, Ca. We split up in ’04 and I’ve been raising our son on my own since then ( he’s 14 now ). I got laid off from my telecommunications job at the end of Aug. ’08, can’t get ANY job if my life depended on it, and my benefits ran out the first week of Oct. With the exception of food stamps, the NC state won’t help us at all. Christian agencies have been helping us for the last 2 months with our rent and utilities, but now that avenue is exhausted, and we are facing being homeless. I’ve worked all my life, and paid my taxes, and now the first time I’ve ever asked for assistance, I can’t get jack. This country can support the world, but not it’s own citizens. I’m mad as hell, Angel and I’m ready for action ! It’s time our government woke up to plight of the American people, and I’m willing and able to shake, rattle, and roll their rich ass till they do. God bless America !
There are about 17 million of us out here in the same boat. Let’s get the phone number of the capital and each person call that number five times ( Tier 5 ) this coming Monday ( 11/29/10) and leave a message for our representatives regarding Tier 5. This will be a very strong message to the people in Washington. Not sure if the PBX/switchboard can handle the load!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike,
We did a call in campaign back in September. On the same day we all sent the same message to all the so called representatives. That message was “Pass the damned tier 5 now!!”. We then targeted Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, using the same tactic and telling them to pass the damned tier 5 or they would feel our presence at the polls. We ran a “Change your party affiliation to Independent” campaign simultaneously in October. They did not listen so we pushed to vote all incumbents out every election until we are recognized.
What we need now is for this Nationwide Rally to come to fruition, after which another write in campaign to put forth our demand would seem logical and a step forward. To do so before we show further unity seems to be regressing.
However, all who come to this site are free to organize any event that they think will have a positive effect. If you make a request via email we can put up a page for your project and you can judge its worthiness through those who respond saying they want to participate or help you further organize.
There are about 17 million of us out here in the same boat. Let’s get the phone number of the capital and each person call that number five times ( Tier 5 ) this coming Monday ( 11/29/10) and leave a message for our representatives regarding Tier 5. This will be a very strong message to the people in Washington. Not sure if the PBX/switchboard can handle the load!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike,
We did a call in campaign back in September. On the same day we all sent the same message to all the so called representatives. That message was “Pass the damned tier 5 now!!”. We then targeted Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, using the same tactic and telling them to pass the damned tier 5 or they would feel our presence at the polls. We ran a “Change your party affiliation to Independent” campaign simultaneously in October. They did not listen so we pushed to vote all incumbents out every election until we are recognized.
What we need now is for this Nationwide Rally to come to fruition, after which another write in campaign to put forth our demand would seem logical and a step forward. To do so before we show further unity seems to be regressing.
However, all who come to this site are free to organize any event that they think will have a positive effect. If you make a request via email we can put up a page for your project and you can judge its worthiness through those who respond saying they want to participate or help you further organize.
Henry My name is Elizabeth and am a 99er most definitely not by choice ! I have been Looking for work non stop! as it seems now I am being denied work due to my ruined credit I wrote a letter to congressman Devin Nunes Along with my resume asking him for a Job! since he denied an extension I have received a response From Devin Nunes Republican incumbent candidate for US Congress in California’s 21st District.
regarding UI extensions his response was the same as all regarding protecting our future generation. and how it would only add to the deficit .and how we must protect the future for our children ! that was so sickening to me so OK take the home away from a child today huh! I have had it ! I am in Fresno California I am more than ready to join your coalition! I can send you his response letter for posting on this site or wher you might think it will help.
Eli,
Sorry to hear about your experience with Devin Nunes. I think I wrote an article on him a while back, real scumbag. If you want to send a copy of the letter you wrote to him and his response back we will post it on the site.
You guys should have a page were you post responces that people have received from our so-called represenitives. I think that the phoney excuses that these scum bags come up with would be just the thing to get everyone fired up. D.R. Gomez, can you make this happen? You guys have been realy good about puting these plans from the think tank into action. Thanks!
This is a great idea. These letters would provide a good reference for us, if we were to initiate a mass write-in campaign, as our letters would contain a pre-emptive retort to the talking points that our representatives utilize when trying to justify that fact that they do not represent us. I will see if I can get a page set up. Does anyone else have letters from the office of a member of congress or the president that they would like to share?
I tore them-up, Dang! I will write to the White House again. I’m a man of honor, integrity, multiskills & Army Vet still vigorously seeking work after 2+ yrs and unbelievably so, still unemployed. I’m hoping the President himself will read my letter, I’ll ask him for a job even if I have to work for free & depend on their evaluation for a possible permanent position.
Henry My name is Elizabeth and am a 99er most definitely not by choice ! I have been Looking for work non stop! as it seems now I am being denied work due to my ruined credit I wrote a letter to congressman Devin Nunes Along with my resume asking him for a Job! since he denied an extension I have received a response From Devin Nunes Republican incumbent candidate for US Congress in California’s 21st District.
regarding UI extensions his response was the same as all regarding protecting our future generation. and how it would only add to the deficit .and how we must protect the future for our children ! that was so sickening to me so OK take the home away from a child today huh! I have had it ! I am in Fresno California I am more than ready to join your coalition! I can send you his response letter for posting on this site or wher you might think it will help.
Eli,
Sorry to hear about your experience with Devin Nunes. I think I wrote an article on him a while back, real scumbag. If you want to send a copy of the letter you wrote to him and his response back we will post it on the site.
You guys should have a page were you post responces that people have received from our so-called represenitives. I think that the phoney excuses that these scum bags come up with would be just the thing to get everyone fired up. D.R. Gomez, can you make this happen? You guys have been realy good about puting these plans from the think tank into action. Thanks!
This is a great idea. These letters would provide a good reference for us, if we were to initiate a mass write-in campaign, as our letters would contain a pre-emptive retort to the talking points that our representatives utilize when trying to justify that fact that they do not represent us. I will see if I can get a page set up. Does anyone else have letters from the office of a member of congress or the president that they would like to share?
I tore them-up, Dang! I will write to the White House again. I’m a man of honor, integrity, multiskills & Army Vet still vigorously seeking work after 2+ yrs and unbelievably so, still unemployed. I’m hoping the President himself will read my letter, I’ll ask him for a job even if I have to work for free & depend on their evaluation for a possible permanent position.
Henry, have you thought about using twitter to your advantage? It’s an excellent tool.
.There are people that are using to get the word out in a big way. See Below: Here is one Idea.
http://www.tweetbig.com/index.php?gclid=COmN-t3kv6UCFQw7gwodNkO9aQ
Mark S. NV,
We need to use every form of communication possible. I will try to figure out how to tweet.
Henry, have you thought about using twitter to your advantage? It’s an excellent tool.
.There are people that are using to get the word out in a big way. See Below: Here is one Idea.
http://www.tweetbig.com/index.php?gclid=COmN-t3kv6UCFQw7gwodNkO9aQ
Mark S. NV,
We need to use every form of communication possible. I will try to figure out how to tweet.
One way to get our troops more informed about the 99er problem is to start getting there e-mail addresses and facebook pages and send them messages on what the hell is going here back at the states. Maybe their not hearing everything and should be informed. Make home made videos and send them off, start tweeting them, writing them whatever.
This will let them know that maybe they are fighting the wrong enemy. We need to get them to start thinking like us. If any of our members have relatives overseas that are serving, let them now immediately.
Better yet, send this web-site address to as many serving as possible.
Also, try and send e-mails and the web-site address to people like Kid Rock,country music stars or any other professional that you might think is sympathetic to our cause. They will start to make noise if they believe in our cause.
One way to get our troops more informed about the 99er problem is to start getting there e-mail addresses and facebook pages and send them messages on what the hell is going here back at the states. Maybe their not hearing everything and should be informed. Make home made videos and send them off, start tweeting them, writing them whatever.
This will let them know that maybe they are fighting the wrong enemy. We need to get them to start thinking like us. If any of our members have relatives overseas that are serving, let them now immediately.
Better yet, send this web-site address to as many serving as possible.
Also, try and send e-mails and the web-site address to people like Kid Rock,country music stars or any other professional that you might think is sympathetic to our cause. They will start to make noise if they believe in our cause.
LOOK!!!! info@endhunger.com
THIS E MAIL IS TO JEFF BRIDGES HE IS HELPING END HUNGER IN THE USA WE ALL NEED TO E MAIL HIM REGARDING OUR HUNGRY CHILDREN! DUE TO UNEMPLOYMENT!!
LOOK!!!! info@endhunger.com
THIS E MAIL IS TO JEFF BRIDGES HE IS HELPING END HUNGER IN THE USA WE ALL NEED TO E MAIL HIM REGARDING OUR HUNGRY CHILDREN! DUE TO UNEMPLOYMENT!!
I will no longer be writing articles for World News Heard Now as I have been downsized. At least for a few weeks. However I will still be posting articles daily on this site. You can also follow me on Facebook and Twitter. Just put From the Trenches World Report in their search and you will find me.
I will no longer be writing articles for World News Heard Now as I have been downsized. At least for a few weeks. However I will still be posting articles daily on this site. You can also follow me on Facebook and Twitter. Just put From the Trenches World Report in their search and you will find me.
I suggest that everyone goes to the meet up site and form an unemployed group in your cities!
go to ( meetup.com ) website and start your own group and send info of it on different sites.
Eli,
This sounds like a positive step in the right direction.
I suggest that everyone goes to the meet up site and form an unemployed group in your cities!
go to ( meetup.com ) website and start your own group and send info of it on different sites.
Eli,
This sounds like a positive step in the right direction.
flashmobs4jobs.com has a Vigil planned tomorrow 11/30 at the NYC Rockefeller Plaza annual X-mas tree lighting, interesting to see what happens.
The getting a celebrity involved idea sounds cool too, Oprah, Brad Pitt (he was into rebuilding NO after Katrina), former Pres. Bill Clinton, U2 or some American rock group (I cannot think of a univerally popular current american group? most of these people have websites with message boards i’d think, I know Oprah does but she’s not much for negative info more the been 2 years outta work and finally got a job type of success stories.
Also Hands Across America, like a human chain or chain segments around the State capitals or major cities, singing God Bless America and other patriotic songs? (look at the Singing Revolution in Estonia in the early 90’s, very emotionally powerful, a human chain, people holding hands across the entire country singing patriotic songs to break from the USSR)
Ironically if I start getting benefits again i will be disqualified from SNAP and medicaid and I need insurance so quite frankly focusing on Jobs and Job Training should Not be a forgotten focus, y’all don’t wanna live forever on extended UE benefits do ya? After 2 years I am frightened I’ll never work again and I’m only 40.
You should also protest the ridicolus questionares attached to online retail job apps, they preach workforce diversity yet you have to fit a certain profile in order to “pass the test” and God Forbid these become standard in ALL job applications 🙂
flashmobs4jobs.com has a Vigil planned tomorrow 11/30 at the NYC Rockefeller Plaza annual X-mas tree lighting, interesting to see what happens.
The getting a celebrity involved idea sounds cool too, Oprah, Brad Pitt (he was into rebuilding NO after Katrina), former Pres. Bill Clinton, U2 or some American rock group (I cannot think of a univerally popular current american group? most of these people have websites with message boards i’d think, I know Oprah does but she’s not much for negative info more the been 2 years outta work and finally got a job type of success stories.
Also Hands Across America, like a human chain or chain segments around the State capitals or major cities, singing God Bless America and other patriotic songs? (look at the Singing Revolution in Estonia in the early 90’s, very emotionally powerful, a human chain, people holding hands across the entire country singing patriotic songs to break from the USSR)
Ironically if I start getting benefits again i will be disqualified from SNAP and medicaid and I need insurance so quite frankly focusing on Jobs and Job Training should Not be a forgotten focus, y’all don’t wanna live forever on extended UE benefits do ya? After 2 years I am frightened I’ll never work again and I’m only 40.
You should also protest the ridicolus questionares attached to online retail job apps, they preach workforce diversity yet you have to fit a certain profile in order to “pass the test” and God Forbid these become standard in ALL job applications 🙂
I Wish I had known about that Rock Center vigil. Where do you guys get this info? I wrote to CNN today after watching that sad story of the soon to be homeless woman who was laid-off. I wanted to bring to their attention how not much is mentioned about the effects of unemployment, the inability to provide for our loved ones & job search futility that results in many of us experiencing mental distress & even depression. I also registered on that UWAG site. Quite frankly I feel like a spare tire around here @ home. I have a deep desire to get more involved in our cause. Needless to say I have been fortunate enough to attain some occassional freelance Handyman gigs, small acting roles & a few prior art paintings but I (as many, many others) need that elusive f/t job. Yes, even w/ all of these skills I have & out of a thousand plus resumes, applications & ad replies in the last 2 & 1/2 yrs and have reached-out to perform some volunteer work. I’m still trying to dig myself out of this hole! (Boy do I have a story for someone in the media, if I ever get the chance!). Here I am, a mid-aged, very fit, single dad, Army Vet who’s worked hard for 28 yrs with no criminal record and dedicated service in all of my prior occupations, got laid-off from a non-profit in ’08 and immediately started searhing for work to include getting certified in 2 different fields of work. I’m either the unluckiest guy in the world or there is something seriously wrong with the attitudes and hiring process of employers here in this city! Anyone in this forum with any thoughts, suggestions or comments, please feel free to reply to me. Oh! if you can see the website link I have……….it’s only my artsite which I will be deleting soon for lack of business and funds. Thanks to you all.
Joe- The websites with some info are all247news.com articles by michael colliss and michael danielson, there is also another “michael” on rochesterexaminer.com I think? i’ve not checked that one out in a while. However these sites are articles written to inform us UE what’s going on but not activist sites, most people just submit their political or personal commentary and they will delete any “inappropriate” remarks.
No-one is taking the bull by the horns and saying enough is enough, I wish someone had the guts to start a revolution before it’s too late, if it isn’t allready which I believe it is, the info out there for any jobs creation/hiring, continuing/extending UE Tiers aint looking too good.
BTW I do not think this Vigil by flashmob4jobs took place. NBC (NY) covered the Tree Lighting in Rockefellar Center which is a Big Deal around here with over 500,000 watching on TV and hundreds attending in person. The website for the organizers has not been updated in a while. I dunno what happened but am very disappointed.
you are lucky you do NOT have a criminal record because I believe that is the main reason I am NOT getting called for interviews or given any job offers. My case was truly unjust and the main reason I hestitate to get physically involved: police can say or do whatever they want, lets say you are peacefully demonstrating and a police officer pulls you over to get arrested for being a public nuisance and you push him away, well you could be charged with assault of PO which is what I got from a shoplifting episode in a similar ex.
If anyone is gonna do anything , they’d best be very careful, a criminal record is for life and 99.999% of employers do background checks not to mention the police blotter in the online version of the paper will be there until eternity.
I believe this is a lost cause and we are all doomed, Sorry but I am a 99er and not independently wealthy once my checking/savings account balance hits ZERO, that’s it.
I Wish I had known about that Rock Center vigil. Where do you guys get this info? I wrote to CNN today after watching that sad story of the soon to be homeless woman who was laid-off. I wanted to bring to their attention how not much is mentioned about the effects of unemployment, the inability to provide for our loved ones & job search futility that results in many of us experiencing mental distress & even depression. I also registered on that UWAG site. Quite frankly I feel like a spare tire around here @ home. I have a deep desire to get more involved in our cause. Needless to say I have been fortunate enough to attain some occassional freelance Handyman gigs, small acting roles & a few prior art paintings but I (as many, many others) need that elusive f/t job. Yes, even w/ all of these skills I have & out of a thousand plus resumes, applications & ad replies in the last 2 & 1/2 yrs and have reached-out to perform some volunteer work. I’m still trying to dig myself out of this hole! (Boy do I have a story for someone in the media, if I ever get the chance!). Here I am, a mid-aged, very fit, single dad, Army Vet who’s worked hard for 28 yrs with no criminal record and dedicated service in all of my prior occupations, got laid-off from a non-profit in ’08 and immediately started searhing for work to include getting certified in 2 different fields of work. I’m either the unluckiest guy in the world or there is something seriously wrong with the attitudes and hiring process of employers here in this city! Anyone in this forum with any thoughts, suggestions or comments, please feel free to reply to me. Oh! if you can see the website link I have……….it’s only my artsite which I will be deleting soon for lack of business and funds. Thanks to you all.
Joe- The websites with some info are all247news.com articles by michael colliss and michael danielson, there is also another “michael” on rochesterexaminer.com I think? i’ve not checked that one out in a while. However these sites are articles written to inform us UE what’s going on but not activist sites, most people just submit their political or personal commentary and they will delete any “inappropriate” remarks.
No-one is taking the bull by the horns and saying enough is enough, I wish someone had the guts to start a revolution before it’s too late, if it isn’t allready which I believe it is, the info out there for any jobs creation/hiring, continuing/extending UE Tiers aint looking too good.
BTW I do not think this Vigil by flashmob4jobs took place. NBC (NY) covered the Tree Lighting in Rockefellar Center which is a Big Deal around here with over 500,000 watching on TV and hundreds attending in person. The website for the organizers has not been updated in a while. I dunno what happened but am very disappointed.
you are lucky you do NOT have a criminal record because I believe that is the main reason I am NOT getting called for interviews or given any job offers. My case was truly unjust and the main reason I hestitate to get physically involved: police can say or do whatever they want, lets say you are peacefully demonstrating and a police officer pulls you over to get arrested for being a public nuisance and you push him away, well you could be charged with assault of PO which is what I got from a shoplifting episode in a similar ex.
If anyone is gonna do anything , they’d best be very careful, a criminal record is for life and 99.999% of employers do background checks not to mention the police blotter in the online version of the paper will be there until eternity.
I believe this is a lost cause and we are all doomed, Sorry but I am a 99er and not independently wealthy once my checking/savings account balance hits ZERO, that’s it.
Hello everyone. I know that they will not help us at all we are at 12.4% rate here in California.
I am looking into building a web business and am in need of a fellow unemployed with web design experience, marketing, two join in on what i feel would be a lucrative venture. if we put our skills and minds together we can accomplish great things . i would appreciate feedback and suggestions, on how i can go about connecting with the right individuals. Thank you
Eli.
Just about anyone can learn to become proficient at just about anything with nothing more than the internet and time. This website is a testament to that. I challenge you to find one skill that you can not learn on youtube.com.
Hello everyone. I know that they will not help us at all we are at 12.4% rate here in California.
I am looking into building a web business and am in need of a fellow unemployed with web design experience, marketing, two join in on what i feel would be a lucrative venture. if we put our skills and minds together we can accomplish great things . i would appreciate feedback and suggestions, on how i can go about connecting with the right individuals. Thank you
Eli.
Just about anyone can learn to become proficient at just about anything with nothing more than the internet and time. This website is a testament to that. I challenge you to find one skill that you can not learn on youtube.com.
Eli, I sincerely would take-up just about any challenge in order to not have to depend on support from any
other source but my own. Unfortunately I don’t have Web Design exp. I do have a book on it, an A+ certification which is for PC Technician and I can draw and paint Artwork to near professional level. Other than that, I have good ol’ fashion sharpness and strong work ethics but, still unemployed………….go figure!
I’ll let you know if I can help-out in any way.
Eli, I sincerely would take-up just about any challenge in order to not have to depend on support from any
other source but my own. Unfortunately I don’t have Web Design exp. I do have a book on it, an A+ certification which is for PC Technician and I can draw and paint Artwork to near professional level. Other than that, I have good ol’ fashion sharpness and strong work ethics but, still unemployed………….go figure!
I’ll let you know if I can help-out in any way.
Joe, thank you for your response are you in California? I am wondering how we may be able to connect without having to post any personal info, I am proposing a joint business venture and of course we are all unemployed with little or no money. I am not going to sit and wait for my goverment to give me a break ! I have great work ethics as well . and my idea will most definitely become a money maker I wish I could explain more but I choose to keep it under wraps for now, It is nothing in anyway illegal My Idea will help most of us unemployed overcome so many obstacles we face in our job search. maybe Henry might be able to help with connections to each other and anyone intrested in considering a joint venture.
Thank you
Eli,
Eli,
I read your post and would be happy to help you communicate. Our site now offers a chat room. You can put up another post and invite anyone you like to meet you in the chat room at a set time. If the person you are talking to decides he or she would like you to have their email they can email the site to that effect and we will send the address to you when you send us your email. This will keep those who want to communicate more personally from having to put their email address on the comments section.
Hope this helps you.
Henry
Joe, thank you for your response are you in California? I am wondering how we may be able to connect without having to post any personal info, I am proposing a joint business venture and of course we are all unemployed with little or no money. I am not going to sit and wait for my goverment to give me a break ! I have great work ethics as well . and my idea will most definitely become a money maker I wish I could explain more but I choose to keep it under wraps for now, It is nothing in anyway illegal My Idea will help most of us unemployed overcome so many obstacles we face in our job search. maybe Henry might be able to help with connections to each other and anyone intrested in considering a joint venture.
Thank you
Eli,
Eli,
I read your post and would be happy to help you communicate. Our site now offers a chat room. You can put up another post and invite anyone you like to meet you in the chat room at a set time. If the person you are talking to decides he or she would like you to have their email they can email the site to that effect and we will send the address to you when you send us your email. This will keep those who want to communicate more personally from having to put their email address on the comments section.
Hope this helps you.
Henry
I don’t mind at all having my email sent to Eli. I am on the E. Coast in NYC however. I have a best friend (Army buddy) that lives in Whittier CA. and have considered visiting CA in the future if & when I have the funds.
I looked for the chat option on this site but couldn’t find it. I’m open to communication with others like myself trying to become independent workers, entreprenuers or self employed and not rely on these corrupt/greedy/secular, dirtbag politicians.
I don’t mind at all having my email sent to Eli. I am on the E. Coast in NYC however. I have a best friend (Army buddy) that lives in Whittier CA. and have considered visiting CA in the future if & when I have the funds.
I looked for the chat option on this site but couldn’t find it. I’m open to communication with others like myself trying to become independent workers, entreprenuers or self employed and not rely on these corrupt/greedy/secular, dirtbag politicians.
The chat room is on the top menu of the home page under “Pub” here is the link //fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-pub
The chat room is on the top menu of the home page under “Pub” here is the link //fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-pub
Hello I was out handing out my resume personally to different practices . monster career builder job sites are a waste of time I have seen far more options on craigslist, don’t you just hate handing your resume to a receptionist that will most likely throw it in the garbage!! I have a plan to eliminate all that
I am in the medical field Medical office Management , and contrary to popular belief its tough in this field as well. so Joe I will try to log onto this chat room on here after I get my home duties done and get the kids from school. unemployment so called vacation has never felt like any Vacation at all just more to do!
Henry Thank you , I would love any of your advise in web cite posting . you do have my email fell free to contact me via e mail anytime.
Eli,
Hello I was out handing out my resume personally to different practices . monster career builder job sites are a waste of time I have seen far more options on craigslist, don’t you just hate handing your resume to a receptionist that will most likely throw it in the garbage!! I have a plan to eliminate all that
I am in the medical field Medical office Management , and contrary to popular belief its tough in this field as well. so Joe I will try to log onto this chat room on here after I get my home duties done and get the kids from school. unemployment so called vacation has never felt like any Vacation at all just more to do!
Henry Thank you , I would love any of your advise in web cite posting . you do have my email fell free to contact me via e mail anytime.
Eli,
AMERICANS! YOU MUST BE MORE VIGILANT!!!
IT IS AND WAS A PLAN! WAKE UP !! LIKE I SAID I AM MEXICAN AMERICAN, WE SLEEP WITH ONE EYE OPEN! SOME OF YOU MAY JOKE !WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE MIGRA! LOL ! NO WE KNOW WE ARE TWO SECONDS AWAY FROM A KNIFE IN THE BACK FROM GREEDY POWER!
WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS PLANNED IS A NEW WORLD ORDER!!!!!
THEY HAVE SHIPPED OUT JOBS ON PURPOSE KEPT YOU QUIET FOR A WHILE WITH MEDIOCRE SUPPORT UI BENEFITS. ALL THE WHILE THEY SCAM AND PLAN THEN THEY RIP IT FROM YOU !
IMAGINE A THIEF THAT WANTS TO STEAL AND THERE ARE DOGS THEY WANT TO DETER THEM THEY THROW A STEAK AT THEM AND STEAL WHILE THE ANIMAL IS TO BUSY EATING WHAT IT THINKS IS A DELICIOUS TREAT!! WHEN THE THIEF IS GONE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN STOLEN AND THE ANIMAL IS HUNGRY AGAIN.
I GUARANTEE YOU THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO BLAME THE PEOPLE FOR ANARCHY HAVE A REASON TO LOCK US ALL UP IN CAMPS LIKE VICIOUS ANIMALS!!!
MARTIAL LAW! THEY WILL PRINT NO MORE CURRENCY
AND ONLY THE ELITE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE WORLD BANK FUNDS! OUR DOLLAR WILL BE WORTH NADA!!!
I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS MY MY 90 YEAR OLD GRANDMOTHER SHE IS OF MAYAN DECENT SHE MENTIONS THE EARTH WILL NOT PERISH EL DIABLO WILL WALK THE EARTH THE ALL SEEING EYE WILL AWAKEN !!!
QUIDATE HIJA ESCONDETE Y A TUS AMADOS CORE LEJOS A LAS MONTANAS LLEVATE AGUA AROZ FRIJOL Y SEMILLA Y LA SANTA BIBLIA!!!
BUSCA A ESTAR SERCA DEL SOL ! TE PROTEGERA!!!
AS MY PEOPLE WORSHIP THE SUN GOD!!
MAYANS
TRANSLATE IN ENGLISH!
STAND YOUR GROUND IN PEACE! GOD BLESS US ALL,
AMERICANS! YOU MUST BE MORE VIGILANT!!!
IT IS AND WAS A PLAN! WAKE UP !! LIKE I SAID I AM MEXICAN AMERICAN, WE SLEEP WITH ONE EYE OPEN! SOME OF YOU MAY JOKE !WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE MIGRA! LOL ! NO WE KNOW WE ARE TWO SECONDS AWAY FROM A KNIFE IN THE BACK FROM GREEDY POWER!
WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS PLANNED IS A NEW WORLD ORDER!!!!!
THEY HAVE SHIPPED OUT JOBS ON PURPOSE KEPT YOU QUIET FOR A WHILE WITH MEDIOCRE SUPPORT UI BENEFITS. ALL THE WHILE THEY SCAM AND PLAN THEN THEY RIP IT FROM YOU !
IMAGINE A THIEF THAT WANTS TO STEAL AND THERE ARE DOGS THEY WANT TO DETER THEM THEY THROW A STEAK AT THEM AND STEAL WHILE THE ANIMAL IS TO BUSY EATING WHAT IT THINKS IS A DELICIOUS TREAT!! WHEN THE THIEF IS GONE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN STOLEN AND THE ANIMAL IS HUNGRY AGAIN.
I GUARANTEE YOU THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TO BLAME THE PEOPLE FOR ANARCHY HAVE A REASON TO LOCK US ALL UP IN CAMPS LIKE VICIOUS ANIMALS!!!
MARTIAL LAW! THEY WILL PRINT NO MORE CURRENCY
AND ONLY THE ELITE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE WORLD BANK FUNDS! OUR DOLLAR WILL BE WORTH NADA!!!
I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS MY MY 90 YEAR OLD GRANDMOTHER SHE IS OF MAYAN DECENT SHE MENTIONS THE EARTH WILL NOT PERISH EL DIABLO WILL WALK THE EARTH THE ALL SEEING EYE WILL AWAKEN !!!
QUIDATE HIJA ESCONDETE Y A TUS AMADOS CORE LEJOS A LAS MONTANAS LLEVATE AGUA AROZ FRIJOL Y SEMILLA Y LA SANTA BIBLIA!!!
BUSCA A ESTAR SERCA DEL SOL ! TE PROTEGERA!!!
AS MY PEOPLE WORSHIP THE SUN GOD!!
MAYANS
TRANSLATE IN ENGLISH!
STAND YOUR GROUND IN PEACE! GOD BLESS US ALL,
WE NEED A PEACFUL RALLY OR WE WILL BE KEPT IN THE SHADOWS
The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance is growing larger and building momentum every day. One thing that everyone can do to get the word out is to post comments about the rally on other news websites. You don’t have to link to this page only mention “The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance”. This term is very easy to find on Google. As soon as there are enough of us organized, we will have REAL power.
WE NEED A PEACFUL RALLY OR WE WILL BE KEPT IN THE SHADOWS
The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance is growing larger and building momentum every day. One thing that everyone can do to get the word out is to post comments about the rally on other news websites. You don’t have to link to this page only mention “The Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance”. This term is very easy to find on Google. As soon as there are enough of us organized, we will have REAL power.
N R E U I
Henry can we use your logo to post on our facebook and any social media outlets. have friends to post on theirs and so on?
Absolutely, feel free. Try to get the word out as much as you can and however you can.
N R E U I
Henry can we use your logo to post on our facebook and any social media outlets. have friends to post on theirs and so on?
Absolutely, feel free. Try to get the word out as much as you can and however you can.
Done ! please everyone do the same! copy logo picture and post! on your facebooks myspace twitter!
Done ! please everyone do the same! copy logo picture and post! on your facebooks myspace twitter!
i wonder why this group is targeting the UE offices to demonstrate rather than State capitols? The workers at the UE office really have no say in extending benefits and in my state they closed several offices and the ones left just offer the same old job hunting 101 seminars, week after week, they call it The State Works offices instead of Unemployment Offices, very ironic. The office that was here had an armed security guard, I am sure they would call the police if they saw people demonstrating. I think we all know the people at the UE office don’t care about us and they certainly have no authority to do anything in regards to incentive for hiring the l/t UE and extending benefits. I found them to be very unhelpful and by demonstrating at various offices the group will be too spread out rather than all at the State Capitols, plus the Press be more likely to hang around there. I also wonder how this event will be coordinated across the entire US with some uniformity? also are participants pre-screened? what if somebody brings a gun or starts yelling some crazy things? I for one am supremely ticked off and wouldn’t even put myself in a demonstration type of situation because I’d fear I’d get too emotional about the fact we are treated like dirt and with other angry people forget it, it could get ugly. I am all for some kind of productive action but I just hope it won’t be some futile attempt, just getting a bunch of people arrested for nothing and making the rest of us look even more desparate and crazy. Sorry but I have lost hope and think the time for action is past tho good luck, i like the idea of singing God Bless America and other patriotic songs since how can anybody be arrested for singing like the National Anthem, etc. but obviously you’d all need to know the words and tunes.
Such a Massive Undertaking! I imagine the local TV and Newspapers will all be contacted or somebody in the group will be videotaping it and sending to TV stations etc. and putting up on U-Tube, etc. I dunno if you notify the local authorities beforehand too, it might be a good idea to do so? My old UE office was attached to the Community Behavioral Health Center so I know that would’ve been a real bad location for ANY demonstration. There are millions of people who are out of work and out of luck but I think only a small % actually look online for any unemployment news or activist activity, altho some of the surveys I signed had over 20 thousand people so imagine if you get 1/2 of that to demonstrate…;
mb,
The reason we have chosen unemployment offices is for the symbolism. That and the fact that they are public buildings gives us the right to protest there. As the 99ers are pretty much impoverished, rallying at the state capitols will have to be reserved to those living in the cities where they are located. As it is to be a nationwide rally it seems the unemployment office would have to be the most common location available.
As for screening people, every person participating in the rally is doing so as an individual and is individually responsible for his or her actions. If any person becomes unruly or violent I guess that is the point they have reached as an individual. I do not want to sound like I am provoking violence, but I will not be made responsible for the actions of others. And the fact is the more unpredictable we become, the more likely it is that our foes will take us seriously. And the bottom line is if this thing is not settled soon the 99ers will be starved into violence. Let us hope it doesn’t come to that.
Your suggestions for notifying the press and filming seem completely logical. If we could get five or ten people at a thousand unemployment offices across this country I have to believe it should cause an effect, though I cannot say what the effect might be as trying to predict what the international corporate mafia will do next is becoming more of a shot in the dark every day. Hell they might give the Kent State treatment at the first instance if if is indeed their intent that we fight a shooting war with them. All we can do is soldier on.
i wonder why this group is targeting the UE offices to demonstrate rather than State capitols? The workers at the UE office really have no say in extending benefits and in my state they closed several offices and the ones left just offer the same old job hunting 101 seminars, week after week, they call it The State Works offices instead of Unemployment Offices, very ironic. The office that was here had an armed security guard, I am sure they would call the police if they saw people demonstrating. I think we all know the people at the UE office don’t care about us and they certainly have no authority to do anything in regards to incentive for hiring the l/t UE and extending benefits. I found them to be very unhelpful and by demonstrating at various offices the group will be too spread out rather than all at the State Capitols, plus the Press be more likely to hang around there. I also wonder how this event will be coordinated across the entire US with some uniformity? also are participants pre-screened? what if somebody brings a gun or starts yelling some crazy things? I for one am supremely ticked off and wouldn’t even put myself in a demonstration type of situation because I’d fear I’d get too emotional about the fact we are treated like dirt and with other angry people forget it, it could get ugly. I am all for some kind of productive action but I just hope it won’t be some futile attempt, just getting a bunch of people arrested for nothing and making the rest of us look even more desparate and crazy. Sorry but I have lost hope and think the time for action is past tho good luck, i like the idea of singing God Bless America and other patriotic songs since how can anybody be arrested for singing like the National Anthem, etc. but obviously you’d all need to know the words and tunes.
Such a Massive Undertaking! I imagine the local TV and Newspapers will all be contacted or somebody in the group will be videotaping it and sending to TV stations etc. and putting up on U-Tube, etc. I dunno if you notify the local authorities beforehand too, it might be a good idea to do so? My old UE office was attached to the Community Behavioral Health Center so I know that would’ve been a real bad location for ANY demonstration. There are millions of people who are out of work and out of luck but I think only a small % actually look online for any unemployment news or activist activity, altho some of the surveys I signed had over 20 thousand people so imagine if you get 1/2 of that to demonstrate…;
mb,
The reason we have chosen unemployment offices is for the symbolism. That and the fact that they are public buildings gives us the right to protest there. As the 99ers are pretty much impoverished, rallying at the state capitols will have to be reserved to those living in the cities where they are located. As it is to be a nationwide rally it seems the unemployment office would have to be the most common location available.
As for screening people, every person participating in the rally is doing so as an individual and is individually responsible for his or her actions. If any person becomes unruly or violent I guess that is the point they have reached as an individual. I do not want to sound like I am provoking violence, but I will not be made responsible for the actions of others. And the fact is the more unpredictable we become, the more likely it is that our foes will take us seriously. And the bottom line is if this thing is not settled soon the 99ers will be starved into violence. Let us hope it doesn’t come to that.
Your suggestions for notifying the press and filming seem completely logical. If we could get five or ten people at a thousand unemployment offices across this country I have to believe it should cause an effect, though I cannot say what the effect might be as trying to predict what the international corporate mafia will do next is becoming more of a shot in the dark every day. Hell they might give the Kent State treatment at the first instance if if is indeed their intent that we fight a shooting war with them. All we can do is soldier on.
How about networking in our local areas to pool talents, skill sets, and whatever meager resources we still have in a pro-active mindset toward exploring modest entrepreneurial ventures or projects? Nobody gives S*** about us but us and the jobs ARE NOT coming back from overseas. We better go Davy Crockett here boys and girls. Any ideas folks? There’s ALOT of experience and know how here.
Sounds good to me! Over the road truck driver here. Experienced in all lower 48 states!
How about networking in our local areas to pool talents, skill sets, and whatever meager resources we still have in a pro-active mindset toward exploring modest entrepreneurial ventures or projects? Nobody gives S*** about us but us and the jobs ARE NOT coming back from overseas. We better go Davy Crockett here boys and girls. Any ideas folks? There’s ALOT of experience and know how here.
Sounds good to me! Over the road truck driver here. Experienced in all lower 48 states!
here are a few ideas to help make a little extra money, thats if you live in oregon, always try the senior citizens center for help with your electric bill or to buy you wood, food banks help you and churches, its still the best to know how to eat, stay warm, and have plenty of fresh water, due to the fact that many of us could be homeless, no food, no money, i myself was in that situation, i stayed in the woods, hunted for food and gathered edible plants. you should know where fresh springs are for clean drinking water, get a camper or good canvis tent as long as your warm, and learn as much survival skills as you can, there are resources out there, dont starve or freeze to death before taking them, BACK TO BASICS !!!!!
here are a few ideas to help make a little extra money, thats if you live in oregon, always try the senior citizens center for help with your electric bill or to buy you wood, food banks help you and churches, its still the best to know how to eat, stay warm, and have plenty of fresh water, due to the fact that many of us could be homeless, no food, no money, i myself was in that situation, i stayed in the woods, hunted for food and gathered edible plants. you should know where fresh springs are for clean drinking water, get a camper or good canvis tent as long as your warm, and learn as much survival skills as you can, there are resources out there, dont starve or freeze to death before taking them, BACK TO BASICS !!!!!
U.99 – WWI
Unemployed/99ers Will Work Initiative
Mission: Spur action on (i) U.S. job creation, (ii) extension of EUC and (iii) Tier V Legislation
Objective: Sustained, Repetitive Visibility
Frequency: Every day, in one form or another – to the extent you are willing and able
Intensity: Full court press – pedal to the metal – all in
Duration: Until EUC Extension & Tier V legislation are passed and the national unemployment rate (truly) drops below 5%
Location: Anytown, USA
Opportunity I: Communication Overload
Email, telephone, fax, tweet, snail mail, online petitions
To – President Obama, Vice President Biden, your elected public servants in the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, those in Congress who SUPPORT our mission, those in Congress who OPPOSE our mission. Make yourselves and your stories known – be VISIBLE.
Op II: Work Search Wednesdays
Go to your local Unemployment Office EVERY WEDNESDAY of every week until you are gainfully employed. Utilize the staff and services provided in support of your ongoing effort to find employment. Bundle up, form lines, be patient, be cordial – be VISIBLE.
Op III: Rally Routine
Can’t make it to Washington D.C.? Then gather at your…City Hall, County Courthouse, State Capitol, public parks and fairgrounds. EVERY SATURDAY , Noon to 4PM. Bring signs and banners, friends and family. Be loud but remain lawful. Sing, chant, shout…be heard and be VISIBLE.
Op IV: Media Engagement
Contact local media with respect to Ops II and III. Apply pressure on local media to prioritize coverage of the unemployment crisis and its impact on the unemployed in your community and U.S. economy.
Op V: Recruitment
To the extent they are willing and able to offer support, request friends, family and (former) co-workers to take part in Ops I – IV. Strength in numbers. It’s critical that our elected officials hear from ALL those impacted by the unemployment crisis.
Useful sites:
http://www.congress.org/
http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm
http://www.nelp.org/
http://www.american99ersunion.com/
http://www.unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php
http://www.capwiz.com/iamaw/issues/alert/?alertid=19102681
http://www.capwiz.com/iamaw/issues/alert/?alertid=19097556
http://www.capwiz.com/iamaw/issues/alert/?alertid=19102546
You can call your Senators toll-free at 1-866-606-1189
U.99 – WWI
Unemployed/99ers Will Work Initiative
Mission: Spur action on (i) U.S. job creation, (ii) extension of EUC and (iii) Tier V Legislation
Objective: Sustained, Repetitive Visibility
Frequency: Every day, in one form or another – to the extent you are willing and able
Intensity: Full court press – pedal to the metal – all in
Duration: Until EUC Extension & Tier V legislation are passed and the national unemployment rate (truly) drops below 5%
Location: Anytown, USA
Opportunity I: Communication Overload
Email, telephone, fax, tweet, snail mail, online petitions
To – President Obama, Vice President Biden, your elected public servants in the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, those in Congress who SUPPORT our mission, those in Congress who OPPOSE our mission. Make yourselves and your stories known – be VISIBLE.
Op II: Work Search Wednesdays
Go to your local Unemployment Office EVERY WEDNESDAY of every week until you are gainfully employed. Utilize the staff and services provided in support of your ongoing effort to find employment. Bundle up, form lines, be patient, be cordial – be VISIBLE.
Op III: Rally Routine
Can’t make it to Washington D.C.? Then gather at your…City Hall, County Courthouse, State Capitol, public parks and fairgrounds. EVERY SATURDAY , Noon to 4PM. Bring signs and banners, friends and family. Be loud but remain lawful. Sing, chant, shout…be heard and be VISIBLE.
Op IV: Media Engagement
Contact local media with respect to Ops II and III. Apply pressure on local media to prioritize coverage of the unemployment crisis and its impact on the unemployed in your community and U.S. economy.
Op V: Recruitment
To the extent they are willing and able to offer support, request friends, family and (former) co-workers to take part in Ops I – IV. Strength in numbers. It’s critical that our elected officials hear from ALL those impacted by the unemployment crisis.
Useful sites:
http://www.congress.org/
http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm
http://www.nelp.org/
http://www.american99ersunion.com/
http://www.unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php
http://www.capwiz.com/iamaw/issues/alert/?alertid=19102681
http://www.capwiz.com/iamaw/issues/alert/?alertid=19097556
http://www.capwiz.com/iamaw/issues/alert/?alertid=19102546
You can call your Senators toll-free at 1-866-606-1189
One big issue with returning to work in a new field is that people are taking a GIANT pay cut from there UC benefits to start a the new job. I personally have a few jobs around my area that I haven even applied for because the gross weekly wage would be less than my Net income from unemployment. So, what about a “booster” unemployment claim? Most employers in my area bump your pay quite a bit after a probation period of a certain time. So why wont the government offer people a “gap filler” for unemployment? Pay the reciever a smaller amount of UC based on what there income was from the new job to make up the difference in wages lost by taking the job in the first place. In other words, if your UC pays you $500 a week and the new job pays $300, allow the person to continue to file a partial claim for the $200 difference. That would allow the person to collect there benefits longer, since they would not be using so much of the benefit each week, and would put a lot of people back to work that are hesitant to now.
I like that idea I would rather work and feel useful
Greg,
Clear thinking and obviously this should have been thought of long ago by the morons in DC. Since it hasn’t what does that tell us?
let me tell you “Greg” You exhaust your unemployment benefits and you won’t be so picky. MY UE check was $260/ week, and that was based on a full time job of approx. $30K/yr and I am single so I dunno what kind of high level job you had to be receiving so much on UE that you would rather remain on UE than take a job, that kind of attitude is what makes all of us look bad. This is exactly the arguement for NOT extending UE past Tier 4, UE supposedly keeps people from taking jobs. Not everybody is rich and successful ya know. I be lucky to get a receptionist job paying $12/hr which is NOT enough to live on but i will NOT refuse any job offer and I apply to any and all jobs, exept for certain jobs I know would be a bad fit, besides employers frown upon any employment gap esp. over 6 months you start to look like damaged goods, so unless you are wealthy and have alot saved up and have a good story as to explain the gap I would not pooh-pooh any lower paying job because you refuse to lower your standard of living, how long would you wait or are you waiting for the Good Jobs Fairy to come and pay you a visit?
Well considering the numbers used were for example purposes, I can inform you that im not rich. I also dont consider myself being above any job out there. But when taking a job that pays so much less than my Unemployment checks that I cant pay my bills and would lose things like my daily driver and such, I have a hard time jumping right in. So its not about a certain attitude, nor is it about being “above” anything. I have no college and a GED, so how much do you think I was making before? I have seen hard times in the past, and rushed right into a job that was a substantial pay cut. That led to a bankruptcy for me and my family. So you will have to pardon me if I am reluctant to give up the benefit that I have paid to have and rush into a job with a substantially lower income!
So “mb”, what your saying is, no matter what the cost to you or your family, you should give up a benefit that was put in place to help you in the situation your in, and go back to the first job that is offered? But if that job is a “bad fit”, you can then turn it down? Well, any job that will make my income short and not be able to pay my bills is a “bad fit” for me. As far as a gap in employment, employers are more understanding to those gaps now than ever before. They understand that there is a reason that unemployment has been extended so much, so I dont sweat that aspect. But hey, go ahead and rush into a job that doesnt suit you and your families needs. If you and a whole bunch of other people do that, maybe you can get the government to feel the economy is better and take UC from all of us that need it.
Greg,
Sorry to butt in on your conversation with mb, but after reading your reply and your statement “you could lose your daily driver”, I know I may be a little slow but I hope you were joking on that front?
Just getting a point across. As I stated before I have experienced a bankruptcy. Anyone who has had to do this will tell you, its no joke and certainly no fun. So when your in a position of making it ok vs. scraping by, your gonna go with the making it ok as long as you can.
One big issue with returning to work in a new field is that people are taking a GIANT pay cut from there UC benefits to start a the new job. I personally have a few jobs around my area that I haven even applied for because the gross weekly wage would be less than my Net income from unemployment. So, what about a “booster” unemployment claim? Most employers in my area bump your pay quite a bit after a probation period of a certain time. So why wont the government offer people a “gap filler” for unemployment? Pay the reciever a smaller amount of UC based on what there income was from the new job to make up the difference in wages lost by taking the job in the first place. In other words, if your UC pays you $500 a week and the new job pays $300, allow the person to continue to file a partial claim for the $200 difference. That would allow the person to collect there benefits longer, since they would not be using so much of the benefit each week, and would put a lot of people back to work that are hesitant to now.
I like that idea I would rather work and feel useful
Greg,
Clear thinking and obviously this should have been thought of long ago by the morons in DC. Since it hasn’t what does that tell us?
let me tell you “Greg” You exhaust your unemployment benefits and you won’t be so picky. MY UE check was $260/ week, and that was based on a full time job of approx. $30K/yr and I am single so I dunno what kind of high level job you had to be receiving so much on UE that you would rather remain on UE than take a job, that kind of attitude is what makes all of us look bad. This is exactly the arguement for NOT extending UE past Tier 4, UE supposedly keeps people from taking jobs. Not everybody is rich and successful ya know. I be lucky to get a receptionist job paying $12/hr which is NOT enough to live on but i will NOT refuse any job offer and I apply to any and all jobs, exept for certain jobs I know would be a bad fit, besides employers frown upon any employment gap esp. over 6 months you start to look like damaged goods, so unless you are wealthy and have alot saved up and have a good story as to explain the gap I would not pooh-pooh any lower paying job because you refuse to lower your standard of living, how long would you wait or are you waiting for the Good Jobs Fairy to come and pay you a visit?
Well considering the numbers used were for example purposes, I can inform you that im not rich. I also dont consider myself being above any job out there. But when taking a job that pays so much less than my Unemployment checks that I cant pay my bills and would lose things like my daily driver and such, I have a hard time jumping right in. So its not about a certain attitude, nor is it about being “above” anything. I have no college and a GED, so how much do you think I was making before? I have seen hard times in the past, and rushed right into a job that was a substantial pay cut. That led to a bankruptcy for me and my family. So you will have to pardon me if I am reluctant to give up the benefit that I have paid to have and rush into a job with a substantially lower income!
So “mb”, what your saying is, no matter what the cost to you or your family, you should give up a benefit that was put in place to help you in the situation your in, and go back to the first job that is offered? But if that job is a “bad fit”, you can then turn it down? Well, any job that will make my income short and not be able to pay my bills is a “bad fit” for me. As far as a gap in employment, employers are more understanding to those gaps now than ever before. They understand that there is a reason that unemployment has been extended so much, so I dont sweat that aspect. But hey, go ahead and rush into a job that doesnt suit you and your families needs. If you and a whole bunch of other people do that, maybe you can get the government to feel the economy is better and take UC from all of us that need it.
Greg,
Sorry to butt in on your conversation with mb, but after reading your reply and your statement “you could lose your daily driver”, I know I may be a little slow but I hope you were joking on that front?
Just getting a point across. As I stated before I have experienced a bankruptcy. Anyone who has had to do this will tell you, its no joke and certainly no fun. So when your in a position of making it ok vs. scraping by, your gonna go with the making it ok as long as you can.
well we got the shaft again we need to make a stand
well we got the shaft again we need to make a stand
Mark
You are right it is not just Obama. It is all of the bastards. And concerning the phrase “extending unemployment or adding another Tier just keeps people from looking for a job”, there is no way they can believe that. Who in the hell wants to loose everything they have, rather than work. They are making fools out of themselves. Maybe we should pull our work records which would show that we have worked our entire life and let them explain to us why we suddenly, at the same time, all decided not to work anymore. Or perhaps we should reach out to other countries and beg for disaster money so the American people can feed themselves. I consider this a disaster and we do it all the time for other countries… now there is a thought.
Barbara99er-GA,
You are so right, like yeah we have all worked all our lives, now we all just decided all of the sudden, hey lets just quit working and lose everything we have worked so hard for and use up all our life savings so we can end up on the street or under a bridge, yeah right. That sure is the scenario those dumb-asses are trying to portray about us, makes me sick. This is a very huge disaster by all means and I love your idea about reaching out and begging other Countries for help. Wonder what kind of message it would give if we all started sending faxes, emails, phone calls and snail mail to all the Senators, President, etc. and acted all dumb and innocent and sincere, and asked them if they could give us any assistance or advice on how to go about contacting other Countries so we can Begged for their help, since Our Very Own Goverment can’t seem to help us any. Better yet, if we could truely reach out to some other Countries don’t you know that would surely make the World Wide News and show the World just how sorry Our Goverment really is.
How would we go about doing something like this?
Mark
You are right it is not just Obama. It is all of the bastards. And concerning the phrase “extending unemployment or adding another Tier just keeps people from looking for a job”, there is no way they can believe that. Who in the hell wants to loose everything they have, rather than work. They are making fools out of themselves. Maybe we should pull our work records which would show that we have worked our entire life and let them explain to us why we suddenly, at the same time, all decided not to work anymore. Or perhaps we should reach out to other countries and beg for disaster money so the American people can feed themselves. I consider this a disaster and we do it all the time for other countries… now there is a thought.
Barbara99er-GA,
You are so right, like yeah we have all worked all our lives, now we all just decided all of the sudden, hey lets just quit working and lose everything we have worked so hard for and use up all our life savings so we can end up on the street or under a bridge, yeah right. That sure is the scenario those dumb-asses are trying to portray about us, makes me sick. This is a very huge disaster by all means and I love your idea about reaching out and begging other Countries for help. Wonder what kind of message it would give if we all started sending faxes, emails, phone calls and snail mail to all the Senators, President, etc. and acted all dumb and innocent and sincere, and asked them if they could give us any assistance or advice on how to go about contacting other Countries so we can Begged for their help, since Our Very Own Goverment can’t seem to help us any. Better yet, if we could truely reach out to some other Countries don’t you know that would surely make the World Wide News and show the World just how sorry Our Goverment really is.
How would we go about doing something like this?
Henry have you considered posting this site on 99er union site as well ?
I am just devastated today been holding my breath to see if we 99er would get help! only to release a scream of anger!!!!after this news!
ELI,
I think I know how Henry feels about those 99er union folks, but myself I think their true agenda is only to use us for what they want.
Henry have you considered posting this site on 99er union site as well ?
I am just devastated today been holding my breath to see if we 99er would get help! only to release a scream of anger!!!!after this news!
ELI,
I think I know how Henry feels about those 99er union folks, but myself I think their true agenda is only to use us for what they want.
wow really ! what would they want?
anyhow I am with Henry’s mission!
wow really ! what would they want?
anyhow I am with Henry’s mission!
Henry is it possible to post an image or picture on posts?
Eli
Eli,
It appears I can, if you give the URL of the image I can put it up for you.
Henry is it possible to post an image or picture on posts?
Eli
Eli,
It appears I can, if you give the URL of the image I can put it up for you.
Henry I will send you an E-mail this afternoon.
Eli,
Henry I will send you an E-mail this afternoon.
Eli,
Henry — I posted 2 comments earlier but they are not here. This is my new message
ATTENTION ALL 99ERS AND FUTURE 99ERS — WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME
We are in an emergency situation. Today is the day you should be calling all of your representatives to complain about extending tax cuts for the wealthy and eliminating the 99ers from the extension of unemployment. Please go to the website — From the Trenches World News and go to the Organized Resistance page and under Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance, leave your first name, state and the address of your unemployment office so we can organize active civil disobedience. This is our only hope. We have got to have enough people to form protest groups. We are strong in numbers, do not give up.
Also I just watched a video on the Ed show where he is talking about the 99ers.
Barbara,
Thank you, that is a good message and we are seeing more new people come to the Rally page all the time as a result.
I’m not sure what comments you are referring to that you don’t see, I saw you posted here in the Think Tank and on two separate articles.
I’m crazy — I overlooked them.
Henry — I posted 2 comments earlier but they are not here. This is my new message
ATTENTION ALL 99ERS AND FUTURE 99ERS — WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME
We are in an emergency situation. Today is the day you should be calling all of your representatives to complain about extending tax cuts for the wealthy and eliminating the 99ers from the extension of unemployment. Please go to the website — From the Trenches World News and go to the Organized Resistance page and under Nationwide Rally to Extend Unemployment Insurance, leave your first name, state and the address of your unemployment office so we can organize active civil disobedience. This is our only hope. We have got to have enough people to form protest groups. We are strong in numbers, do not give up.
Also I just watched a video on the Ed show where he is talking about the 99ers.
Barbara,
Thank you, that is a good message and we are seeing more new people come to the Rally page all the time as a result.
I’m not sure what comments you are referring to that you don’t see, I saw you posted here in the Think Tank and on two separate articles.
I’m crazy — I overlooked them.
MAYBE WE SHOULD START OUR OWN PARTY FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE
MAYBE WE SHOULD START OUR OWN PARTY FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE
I LIKE THE WAY BARBARA THINKS
I LIKE THE WAY BARBARA THINKS
by Richard Daughty
The Daily Reckoning
Previously by Richard Daughty: Why Some Think a Gold Standard Wouldn’t Work
I have been grudgingly getting to work every day and on-time since, unfortunately, it looks like my incompetence, stupidity and sheer lazy worthlessness is going to produce another losing quarter, and the rumor is that the Board of Directors is looking for heads to roll.
This prompted me to suggest to my boss that instead of firing me, the company should bail out the business segment that is losing money (mine) by loaning money to it, which everyone knows will never be paid back, so that the consolidated company books could show a huge tax-deductible loss by virtue of loss reserves on the eventual default, and my little division could also help the bottom line by booking a tax-deductible interest expense on the loan that we never pay back!
I carefully explained how the important benefit would be, of course, that I could continue to be my happy – although incompetent, stupid and lazy – self, there would be bonuses for the executive staff, and the company would benefit when everyone would look at me and say to themselves, “Wow! The company must be doing very well if they can afford to hire a half-witted clown!” which will create a kind of “wealth effect”! Money will start flowing! I explained to her, breathless with my hopeful optimism, “It’s like magic!”
Or, I said, triumphantly playing my ace of trumps, the accountants could find a way to “lose” all the money and save enough in evading taxes to offset the whole deal!
Well, I could tell by the look on her face that she was not very keen on the idea to, as she put it, “dare to come into my office and suggest that we commit fraud and evade taxes so that we all land in prison and die in disgrace” but I calmly explained that the Federal Reserve apparently can’t account for $9 trillion in their own off-balance sheet transactions, and nobody is under arrest, or going to jail, or being investigated, or anything! $9 trillion! In an economy that has a GDP of $14 trillion!
“And so,” I went on, “our piddly fraud would be but a triviality compared to $9 trillion, which is a Huge Freaking Amount (HFA) of money, in that it is a whopping 65% of GDP and (coincidentally) 65% of the national debt, and is 4.8 times larger than the entire monetary base of the Whole Freaking Country (WFC)!”
She was visibly choking on her outrage, which I suspected was because she thought I was making this up as part of another Mogambo Scheme Of Desperation (MSOD) to save my worthless butt from the firing squad.
So, to allay her suspicions, I told her that I got this information from Money News, which reported that when “Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Orlando) asked Inspector General Elizabeth Coleman of the Federal Reserve some very basic questions about where the trillions of dollars that have come from the Fed’s expanded balance sheet, the IG didn’t know.”
Shockingly, “nobody at the Fed seems to have any idea what the losses on its $2 trillion portfolio really are,” which probably explains why Rep. Grayson said, “I am shocked to find out that nobody at the Federal Reserve is keeping track of anything.”
TheDailyBell.com, commenting on this interesting news item, said, “During the questioning of Coleman, Grayson asks her over and over if there is a formal accounting available for the trillions in off-book balance sheet activity for the Fed” until she finally “all-but-admits that she actually has no authority even to examine the Fed’s off-balance sheet activities.”
This is where I got all excited at the possibilities, and said, “So all we have to do is to deny anybody the authority to look at a secret set of books!”
Well, tragically, my stupid boss nixed my Terrific Mogambo Plan (TMP), and now I am desperate enough, and scared enough, about losing my stupid job that I show up, on-time, every stupid day to do my stupid job, whereupon I have rediscovered that I hate working and all that effort and striving to be at least minimally competent, which means I have to spend a lot of my Valuable Mogambo Time (VMT) actually handling stupid problems instead of, like previously, ignoring them until they somehow solve themselves or just mysteriously go away.
The worst part, of course, is that I have to be around my stupid co-workers, who stupidly do not buy gold, silver and oil when the horrid Federal Reserve is creating so much money, and even when I tell them that they are stupid for not buying them, they still don’t buy them! Stupid!
These are, I suppose, the same “common people” who went another $2 billion deeper in installment debt last month, taking that source of indebtedness back up to $2,411 billion, which is a cool $24,110 for every private-sector worker in the Whole Freaking Country (WFC), which is an important statistic since only private-sector workers can make a profit with which to pay the taxes which supports half the economy already!
Apparently, the money was used for “personal consumption expenditures,” which increased $17.3 billion, or 0.2%, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, which also reports that “Personal income decreased $16.8 billion, or 0.1 percent, and disposable personal income (DPI) decreased $20.3 billion, or 0.2 percent, in September.”
People made less money, even as things cost more! Yikes!
And as for the terror of inflation and especially the ruinous, runaway inflation that will result from the Federal Reserve creating so much money, the new Gross Domestic Product Deflator is understandably up, hitting 2.3%, which is up from last month’s 1.9%.
Hurriedly concocting some inflammatory and meaningless statistics in a pathetic attempt at attention-getting, I breathlessly declare that this is a gigantic 21% increase in the growth of inflation! Which it is! Check it yourself, moron, if you don’t believe me!
And with the evil Ben Bernanke purposely misusing the Federal Reserve to “target” 2% inflation in prices by creating – out of thin air – whole multiples of that in new money as a percentage of the money supply, the Fabulous Mogambo Advice (FMA) to buy gold, silver and oil as protection against such inflationary horrors rings clearer and louder, although it can be argued that the ringing of inflationary horror can ring louder, but not necessarily clearer.
And as for easy, it hasn’t gotten any easier, either, because it is already so easy to buy gold and silver (“Here’s my money, gimme my metal!”) that those who buy them justifiably say, “Whee! This investing stuff is easy!”
December 6, 2010
Richard Daughty (Mogambo Guru) is general partner and COO for Smith Consultant Group, serving the financial and medical communities, and the writer/publisher of the Mogambo Guru economic newsletter, an avocational exercise to better heap disrespect on those who desperately deserve it. The Mogambo Guru is quoted frequently in Barron’s, The Daily Reckoning, and other fine publications.
Copyright © 2010 Richard Daughty
The Best of Richard Daughty
I thought you might like this henry
Robert Tucker,
That may be the most outstanding, coherent rant that I have ever had the pleasure of reading. Thank you.
by Richard Daughty
The Daily Reckoning
Previously by Richard Daughty: Why Some Think a Gold Standard Wouldn’t Work
I have been grudgingly getting to work every day and on-time since, unfortunately, it looks like my incompetence, stupidity and sheer lazy worthlessness is going to produce another losing quarter, and the rumor is that the Board of Directors is looking for heads to roll.
This prompted me to suggest to my boss that instead of firing me, the company should bail out the business segment that is losing money (mine) by loaning money to it, which everyone knows will never be paid back, so that the consolidated company books could show a huge tax-deductible loss by virtue of loss reserves on the eventual default, and my little division could also help the bottom line by booking a tax-deductible interest expense on the loan that we never pay back!
I carefully explained how the important benefit would be, of course, that I could continue to be my happy – although incompetent, stupid and lazy – self, there would be bonuses for the executive staff, and the company would benefit when everyone would look at me and say to themselves, “Wow! The company must be doing very well if they can afford to hire a half-witted clown!” which will create a kind of “wealth effect”! Money will start flowing! I explained to her, breathless with my hopeful optimism, “It’s like magic!”
Or, I said, triumphantly playing my ace of trumps, the accountants could find a way to “lose” all the money and save enough in evading taxes to offset the whole deal!
Well, I could tell by the look on her face that she was not very keen on the idea to, as she put it, “dare to come into my office and suggest that we commit fraud and evade taxes so that we all land in prison and die in disgrace” but I calmly explained that the Federal Reserve apparently can’t account for $9 trillion in their own off-balance sheet transactions, and nobody is under arrest, or going to jail, or being investigated, or anything! $9 trillion! In an economy that has a GDP of $14 trillion!
“And so,” I went on, “our piddly fraud would be but a triviality compared to $9 trillion, which is a Huge Freaking Amount (HFA) of money, in that it is a whopping 65% of GDP and (coincidentally) 65% of the national debt, and is 4.8 times larger than the entire monetary base of the Whole Freaking Country (WFC)!”
She was visibly choking on her outrage, which I suspected was because she thought I was making this up as part of another Mogambo Scheme Of Desperation (MSOD) to save my worthless butt from the firing squad.
So, to allay her suspicions, I told her that I got this information from Money News, which reported that when “Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Orlando) asked Inspector General Elizabeth Coleman of the Federal Reserve some very basic questions about where the trillions of dollars that have come from the Fed’s expanded balance sheet, the IG didn’t know.”
Shockingly, “nobody at the Fed seems to have any idea what the losses on its $2 trillion portfolio really are,” which probably explains why Rep. Grayson said, “I am shocked to find out that nobody at the Federal Reserve is keeping track of anything.”
TheDailyBell.com, commenting on this interesting news item, said, “During the questioning of Coleman, Grayson asks her over and over if there is a formal accounting available for the trillions in off-book balance sheet activity for the Fed” until she finally “all-but-admits that she actually has no authority even to examine the Fed’s off-balance sheet activities.”
This is where I got all excited at the possibilities, and said, “So all we have to do is to deny anybody the authority to look at a secret set of books!”
Well, tragically, my stupid boss nixed my Terrific Mogambo Plan (TMP), and now I am desperate enough, and scared enough, about losing my stupid job that I show up, on-time, every stupid day to do my stupid job, whereupon I have rediscovered that I hate working and all that effort and striving to be at least minimally competent, which means I have to spend a lot of my Valuable Mogambo Time (VMT) actually handling stupid problems instead of, like previously, ignoring them until they somehow solve themselves or just mysteriously go away.
The worst part, of course, is that I have to be around my stupid co-workers, who stupidly do not buy gold, silver and oil when the horrid Federal Reserve is creating so much money, and even when I tell them that they are stupid for not buying them, they still don’t buy them! Stupid!
These are, I suppose, the same “common people” who went another $2 billion deeper in installment debt last month, taking that source of indebtedness back up to $2,411 billion, which is a cool $24,110 for every private-sector worker in the Whole Freaking Country (WFC), which is an important statistic since only private-sector workers can make a profit with which to pay the taxes which supports half the economy already!
Apparently, the money was used for “personal consumption expenditures,” which increased $17.3 billion, or 0.2%, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, which also reports that “Personal income decreased $16.8 billion, or 0.1 percent, and disposable personal income (DPI) decreased $20.3 billion, or 0.2 percent, in September.”
People made less money, even as things cost more! Yikes!
And as for the terror of inflation and especially the ruinous, runaway inflation that will result from the Federal Reserve creating so much money, the new Gross Domestic Product Deflator is understandably up, hitting 2.3%, which is up from last month’s 1.9%.
Hurriedly concocting some inflammatory and meaningless statistics in a pathetic attempt at attention-getting, I breathlessly declare that this is a gigantic 21% increase in the growth of inflation! Which it is! Check it yourself, moron, if you don’t believe me!
And with the evil Ben Bernanke purposely misusing the Federal Reserve to “target” 2% inflation in prices by creating – out of thin air – whole multiples of that in new money as a percentage of the money supply, the Fabulous Mogambo Advice (FMA) to buy gold, silver and oil as protection against such inflationary horrors rings clearer and louder, although it can be argued that the ringing of inflationary horror can ring louder, but not necessarily clearer.
And as for easy, it hasn’t gotten any easier, either, because it is already so easy to buy gold and silver (“Here’s my money, gimme my metal!”) that those who buy them justifiably say, “Whee! This investing stuff is easy!”
December 6, 2010
Richard Daughty (Mogambo Guru) is general partner and COO for Smith Consultant Group, serving the financial and medical communities, and the writer/publisher of the Mogambo Guru economic newsletter, an avocational exercise to better heap disrespect on those who desperately deserve it. The Mogambo Guru is quoted frequently in Barron’s, The Daily Reckoning, and other fine publications.
Copyright © 2010 Richard Daughty
The Best of Richard Daughty
I thought you might like this henry
Robert Tucker,
That may be the most outstanding, coherent rant that I have ever had the pleasure of reading. Thank you.
Henry MSNBC Keith Oberman just talked about us 99ers and how mad he is so Mad we the 99ers where left to starve!! By the president! right now on msnbc
Henry MSNBC Keith Oberman just talked about us 99ers and how mad he is so Mad we the 99ers where left to starve!! By the president! right now on msnbc
To Henry, Mark S. Nevada, Barbara Ga. , D.Gomez and everybody that wants to read,
New idea, might be stupid but just trying to think outside the box. I wonder if it would gain any attention or make them stop and think just how bad we do need help if thousands of us did the following.
Call, email, fax, write letters, to the President and Senators being polite but very serious and come across this way.
“Hey, it has been made very clear the United States Goverment has no intentions in helping millions of their fellow citizens that are in desperate need, (99ers)
so therefore we beg that at least you can provide us with the neccessary contact information of the Goverment Officals of our Allied Countries so we can beg them to help us out a little.”
If our Goverment knew we were serious and sincere in pursuing help from other Countries, maybe, just maybe they would stop and think, “hey we can’t expose to the World just how bad we are shitting on our very own people”
May be stupid but I thought I would throw it out there anyway.
Mark
Mark,
The idea is brilliant. This is the very kind of thing we need to be doing. To be quite frank I was beginning to become a little disappointed in the of affirmative action being organized through the Think Tank. I will be sending emails, only I will not be humble. I will tell them straight out that they have failed in their duties and are exercising the equivalent of apartheid on the unemployed. You see the fact is we are the majority and our oppressors are the minority, so why shouldn’t we ask for assistance from other countries in ending our suffering and the apartheid we are living under.
Really a good idea Mark. Something that makes a lot of sense. Nothing else seems to be working. Our congressman right now are busy trying to keep the wealthy from having to pay taxes at the moment. They might be a little busy.
To Henry, Mark S. Nevada, Barbara Ga. , D.Gomez and everybody that wants to read,
New idea, might be stupid but just trying to think outside the box. I wonder if it would gain any attention or make them stop and think just how bad we do need help if thousands of us did the following.
Call, email, fax, write letters, to the President and Senators being polite but very serious and come across this way.
“Hey, it has been made very clear the United States Goverment has no intentions in helping millions of their fellow citizens that are in desperate need, (99ers)
so therefore we beg that at least you can provide us with the neccessary contact information of the Goverment Officals of our Allied Countries so we can beg them to help us out a little.”
If our Goverment knew we were serious and sincere in pursuing help from other Countries, maybe, just maybe they would stop and think, “hey we can’t expose to the World just how bad we are shitting on our very own people”
May be stupid but I thought I would throw it out there anyway.
Mark
Mark,
The idea is brilliant. This is the very kind of thing we need to be doing. To be quite frank I was beginning to become a little disappointed in the of affirmative action being organized through the Think Tank. I will be sending emails, only I will not be humble. I will tell them straight out that they have failed in their duties and are exercising the equivalent of apartheid on the unemployed. You see the fact is we are the majority and our oppressors are the minority, so why shouldn’t we ask for assistance from other countries in ending our suffering and the apartheid we are living under.
Really a good idea Mark. Something that makes a lot of sense. Nothing else seems to be working. Our congressman right now are busy trying to keep the wealthy from having to pay taxes at the moment. They might be a little busy.
HACKERS JUST SHUT DOWN MASTERCARD AND VISA THE TRUTH SHALL SET U FREE
HACKERS JUST SHUT DOWN MASTERCARD AND VISA THE TRUTH SHALL SET U FREE
Time To Call The Traitors Bluff!
There are 1.5 million homes foreclosed on currently in the the United States.
I propose that we devise a plan to encourage the Government to somehow assign empty homes in which were involved in the “Mortgage Crises” to needy 99er families until this mess in cleared up. The pay back to the lien holders would be up keep and maintenance of the homes for future resale. Giving the occupants first rights to these homes at a reduced mortgage upon job placement. There could be rules put into place to keep any abuse from getting out of control.
This would alleviate any embarrassments from extensive tent city’s that are going to be inevitable and give back dignity to our population. In times like this there is no reason for us to treat our people like animals. Only the qualified unemployed would be eligible, meaning that you are a homeless unemployed 99er. I see this as a win for both parties being that families would be protected from the elements and the lien holders would have the security of homes being kept up and protected. Not all of the 99er’s are losing there homes so 99er’s with homes could be involved in other ways giving them income. Whether it be administration duties or manufacturing or what ever can be thought up.
Obviously, there would be extensive problems that would have to be worked out but something has to be done here people. We just can’t put our heads in the sand. Why put people through the indignity of tent city’s? Right now these idiots are voting for tax cuts for the top 2 percent! That’s $80 billion dollars over two years! Insane… We could use this money in this way to do so much more good for our country.
Use the homes that have been on the market the longest for starters and see how it works out. We would ask the Government for start money as well as donations from corporations to start business that could provide the resources to convert these homes to solar power. The occupants would be required to install this solar power themselves after training on how to do so which would be provided by the government. Therefore relieving the stress on the electrical grid and at the same time creating jobs for the manufacturing of the solar equipment.
We could call the plan “Back From The Trenches” and administer from this site. We all sign on here and propose our idea to the Government. Any Ideas would propagate directly from here. We would find the highest density of empty homes and start with that location. Then move out from there.
This idea would create jobs and give shelter to not all but a great deal of the unemployed homeless. It would give us something to look forward to and at the same time give us back our dignity. Not only that but it would put vigor back into this economy. All solar would be manufactured in the United State no overseas bullshit.
We could draw up the proposal here and drop it on the laps of the clowns in Congress and see how they respond to it. It would be Interesting to see all of the excuses of why it’s a bad Idea. If we get brushed off then we raise hell to the media and drive home a revolt.
I suggest we start with the states with the highest unemployment which obviously would have the highest foreclosures.
We have incredible talent here for most of the things needed administratively and logistically I’m sure of that.
We could ask for donations from Corporations to help with logistics. We also could have the Government provide these people once in their homes, with a small stipend to provide for groceries and giving tax cuts for property taxes and water and sewage. Far less than unemployment benefits. Providing that the 99er provide for himself after a certain amount of time.
I know that all of this sounds outlandish, but we have to think out of the box to make any kind of a difference. Throw it around and let me know what you think. Homelessness is going to be a reality people and then what? It’s going to be up to us to get things done. These idiots couldn’t find their way out of a paper bag. We are going to have to hold their hands.
Have you heard anybody anywhere with any ideas to get the economy running at the same time helping the 99er’s? Of course you haven’t, lets get this show on the road!
Mark in Nevada that is an excellent idea you have. Maybe even convince the Goverment not just the 99ers that will inhabit said homes, but create a Goverment program in which many other 99ers could work to recieve unemployment benefits while getting these fore-closed homes in condition to re-occupy,
then let the 99ers that move in take on upkeep from that point. You know a lot of foreclosed homes are sitting around being vandalized and in need of much repair just to get them livable again and such a program would give us a job to do so. There are many things the Goverment could do to create jobs for us until things get better, but like you said, seems as though we will have to take their hand and lead them to do so. Great idea Mark, keep a thinking.
Any moneys that are needed should come from the settlements that the “Mafia Banksters” Incurred from the mortgage securities scam amongst others, that was described in my article titled “The Feathery Velvet Touch of the Law” dated 12/8/2010. Make those pieces of garbage pay for it.
Just to make a correction on my above facts. More than 2.3 million homes have been repossessed by lenders since the recession began in December 2007.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/16/homes-lost-foreclosure-percent/
Time To Call The Traitors Bluff!
There are 1.5 million homes foreclosed on currently in the the United States.
I propose that we devise a plan to encourage the Government to somehow assign empty homes in which were involved in the “Mortgage Crises” to needy 99er families until this mess in cleared up. The pay back to the lien holders would be up keep and maintenance of the homes for future resale. Giving the occupants first rights to these homes at a reduced mortgage upon job placement. There could be rules put into place to keep any abuse from getting out of control.
This would alleviate any embarrassments from extensive tent city’s that are going to be inevitable and give back dignity to our population. In times like this there is no reason for us to treat our people like animals. Only the qualified unemployed would be eligible, meaning that you are a homeless unemployed 99er. I see this as a win for both parties being that families would be protected from the elements and the lien holders would have the security of homes being kept up and protected. Not all of the 99er’s are losing there homes so 99er’s with homes could be involved in other ways giving them income. Whether it be administration duties or manufacturing or what ever can be thought up.
Obviously, there would be extensive problems that would have to be worked out but something has to be done here people. We just can’t put our heads in the sand. Why put people through the indignity of tent city’s? Right now these idiots are voting for tax cuts for the top 2 percent! That’s $80 billion dollars over two years! Insane… We could use this money in this way to do so much more good for our country.
Use the homes that have been on the market the longest for starters and see how it works out. We would ask the Government for start money as well as donations from corporations to start business that could provide the resources to convert these homes to solar power. The occupants would be required to install this solar power themselves after training on how to do so which would be provided by the government. Therefore relieving the stress on the electrical grid and at the same time creating jobs for the manufacturing of the solar equipment.
We could call the plan “Back From The Trenches” and administer from this site. We all sign on here and propose our idea to the Government. Any Ideas would propagate directly from here. We would find the highest density of empty homes and start with that location. Then move out from there.
This idea would create jobs and give shelter to not all but a great deal of the unemployed homeless. It would give us something to look forward to and at the same time give us back our dignity. Not only that but it would put vigor back into this economy. All solar would be manufactured in the United State no overseas bullshit.
We could draw up the proposal here and drop it on the laps of the clowns in Congress and see how they respond to it. It would be Interesting to see all of the excuses of why it’s a bad Idea. If we get brushed off then we raise hell to the media and drive home a revolt.
I suggest we start with the states with the highest unemployment which obviously would have the highest foreclosures.
We have incredible talent here for most of the things needed administratively and logistically I’m sure of that.
We could ask for donations from Corporations to help with logistics. We also could have the Government provide these people once in their homes, with a small stipend to provide for groceries and giving tax cuts for property taxes and water and sewage. Far less than unemployment benefits. Providing that the 99er provide for himself after a certain amount of time.
I know that all of this sounds outlandish, but we have to think out of the box to make any kind of a difference. Throw it around and let me know what you think. Homelessness is going to be a reality people and then what? It’s going to be up to us to get things done. These idiots couldn’t find their way out of a paper bag. We are going to have to hold their hands.
Have you heard anybody anywhere with any ideas to get the economy running at the same time helping the 99er’s? Of course you haven’t, lets get this show on the road!
Mark in Nevada that is an excellent idea you have. Maybe even convince the Goverment not just the 99ers that will inhabit said homes, but create a Goverment program in which many other 99ers could work to recieve unemployment benefits while getting these fore-closed homes in condition to re-occupy,
then let the 99ers that move in take on upkeep from that point. You know a lot of foreclosed homes are sitting around being vandalized and in need of much repair just to get them livable again and such a program would give us a job to do so. There are many things the Goverment could do to create jobs for us until things get better, but like you said, seems as though we will have to take their hand and lead them to do so. Great idea Mark, keep a thinking.
Any moneys that are needed should come from the settlements that the “Mafia Banksters” Incurred from the mortgage securities scam amongst others, that was described in my article titled “The Feathery Velvet Touch of the Law” dated 12/8/2010. Make those pieces of garbage pay for it.
Just to make a correction on my above facts. More than 2.3 million homes have been repossessed by lenders since the recession began in December 2007.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/16/homes-lost-foreclosure-percent/
there has been a movement called “take back the land” pertaining to foreclosed homes.
I swear we are hurting and struggling to keep our home! that is one thing we will not loose. no matter what happens !!!!!!
by the way had an interview today with Cigna health care for medical billing and collections. Sandy that was her name head of billing and collections asked me why I was looking into an entry level position . confused and intrigued I suppose. she stated with your experience it seems that you are over qualified for this position . without telling her my long sob unemployment story! I asked for the position stating that our current economy and the job rate has prevented me from obtaining my desired mid level position and that I would be willing to work entry level given the opportunity with my experience I would be an asset to Cigna health care ,
and WOW ! I tell you all that she could say is OK well .we will get in contact with you. dammit I know that over threw her . shit!I know it did! she had no dam response after that at all!
I know I am well overqualified! I know dammit exploit me! but if I sound to desperate that will make them wonder
I hate this I hate this!!
I am ! I am worth More than this bullshit!
sorry to Rant!
Eli,
there has been a movement called “take back the land” pertaining to foreclosed homes.
I swear we are hurting and struggling to keep our home! that is one thing we will not loose. no matter what happens !!!!!!
by the way had an interview today with Cigna health care for medical billing and collections. Sandy that was her name head of billing and collections asked me why I was looking into an entry level position . confused and intrigued I suppose. she stated with your experience it seems that you are over qualified for this position . without telling her my long sob unemployment story! I asked for the position stating that our current economy and the job rate has prevented me from obtaining my desired mid level position and that I would be willing to work entry level given the opportunity with my experience I would be an asset to Cigna health care ,
and WOW ! I tell you all that she could say is OK well .we will get in contact with you. dammit I know that over threw her . shit!I know it did! she had no dam response after that at all!
I know I am well overqualified! I know dammit exploit me! but if I sound to desperate that will make them wonder
I hate this I hate this!!
I am ! I am worth More than this bullshit!
sorry to Rant!
Eli,
i know how you feel eli i had a phone interview for ups job just part time and as soon as i told the guy i was 47 his voice and aditude changed . Imagine that no discremanation there!!!! I sure hope we can get enough people to rally I ve been posting every where to let people know we want to make a stand
i know how you feel eli i had a phone interview for ups job just part time and as soon as i told the guy i was 47 his voice and aditude changed . Imagine that no discremanation there!!!! I sure hope we can get enough people to rally I ve been posting every where to let people know we want to make a stand
Robert did the interviewer ask you your AGE! ? it is illegal! to ask your age, religion, sexual orientation or if you are pregnant! or family status.like how many kids you have married or single,
I will tell you, if you are ever asked these questions make note of it and based on the feel of the interview you will be able to tell like you said regarding tone! how it will turn out . if possible ask the interview what was the purpose of that specific question and if that would be a determining factor? call corporate and advise them of this and request a separate interview and if refused you have a discrimination case! take it immediately to EEOC, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and file a discrimination complaint claim.
I am a Medical office manager administrator! and Human Resource Agent or was !!
Eli,
be careful all regarding these illegal interview questions
Eli,
God bless your good intent but I think there is something I need to tell you. When you became impoverished you entered a different world. A different social class. In the world of the poor you have no rights. There are a whole different set of rules for us poor folk. You are new to this so let me explain.
Rule 1. Poor will follow you to every quarter. It is omnipresent, it encompasses you like a wool bodysuit that has shrunk in the wash.
Do you want to know why 99ers can’t get a job at McDonald’s? When you fill out a work application the first thing they do is run a credit check. That is when they find out you are poor and when you became poor. They then examine you under a microscope as you are the kind of person that might think you can sue them. (uneducated in the reality of poor) They even look at your medical records. I know you are saying McDonald’s can’t look at my medical records without my permission, and you know what, you are absolutely right. But their insurance company can as every time you go to a doctor and sign a consent form for your insurance company to use your information, you are also allowing them to share that information with any insurance company they are affiliated with. And they are all affiliated.
The fact is statistically it is better business for the insurance company if McDonald’s hires an 18 year old in prime shape rather than a 50 year old who might break down.
Rule 2. Poor people have no rights in the courts. Let’s say you did record somebody saying that your age made a difference. All that person has to do, is say they are asking for their insurance company, and all of the sudden it becomes perfectly legal.
As for thinking any attorney would take the case, the first thing you would have to do in the attorney’s office is fill out a credit report. When the attorney finds out you are poor he will tell you that there is no way he could win the case in front of a jury and he’d be right. Remember if it was possible to get it in front of a jury, I promise you it would not be a jury of your fellow 99er peers. The people that are on that jury are going to be middle class people with jobs, some of which listen to Rush Limbaugh every day. And when it is brought up at the trial as to how long you’ve been unemployed all that programming from the mainstream media, that has portrayed you and me as lazy beggars wanting something for nothing, will kick in.
You know what you can do about it? Nothing. You know why? Because you are poor.
I have given you two of the rules that we poor have to live by. There are many more but they are easy to spot. Every time you find yourself shouting “Bullshit! this is against the law, they can’t do this to me!” You have just found another one.
Hope this will help you down the path of re-education. I truly like to help people and cheer them up every chance I get.
RULE 3….. You can rent land have a binding lease, wake up at 2.am to the sound of strangers, unloading 4 horses in your back yard, because the rich land owner decided to double lease the property you have already paid your rent on in full, on time every month for 2 years. then the owner calls the cops when you insist they remove the animals off the property, the cop first takes the owners side, and leaves the scene and leaves the horses,which in the mean time breaks down the neighbors fence, they come knocking on my door mad as hell, then i have to deal with them horses running threw the yard, with my small grandchildren present, my pregnant daughter in law slips on the ice as she was gathering her kids, i call the the sheriffs office quote the man on the phone the law, the cop is ordered to turn around and give the intruders 1 hr to vacate the horses, then i go see a lawyer and she advised me to move out if i did not like being violated, and not to break my lease or be late with any rent for the remaining time i stayed or i could be sued by the owner… the rich have no rules and the poor have no rights!!!!!!!!!!
Henry — I cracked up when I read your explanation to Eli. I know it was not meant to be funny because it is so very true but I just loved the way you explained it. You certainly cheered me up. Now back to work.
yes eli they did ask me my birth date and what year i graduated before that everything was great
Robert did the interviewer ask you your AGE! ? it is illegal! to ask your age, religion, sexual orientation or if you are pregnant! or family status.like how many kids you have married or single,
I will tell you, if you are ever asked these questions make note of it and based on the feel of the interview you will be able to tell like you said regarding tone! how it will turn out . if possible ask the interview what was the purpose of that specific question and if that would be a determining factor? call corporate and advise them of this and request a separate interview and if refused you have a discrimination case! take it immediately to EEOC, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and file a discrimination complaint claim.
I am a Medical office manager administrator! and Human Resource Agent or was !!
Eli,
be careful all regarding these illegal interview questions
Eli,
God bless your good intent but I think there is something I need to tell you. When you became impoverished you entered a different world. A different social class. In the world of the poor you have no rights. There are a whole different set of rules for us poor folk. You are new to this so let me explain.
Rule 1. Poor will follow you to every quarter. It is omnipresent, it encompasses you like a wool bodysuit that has shrunk in the wash.
Do you want to know why 99ers can’t get a job at McDonald’s? When you fill out a work application the first thing they do is run a credit check. That is when they find out you are poor and when you became poor. They then examine you under a microscope as you are the kind of person that might think you can sue them. (uneducated in the reality of poor) They even look at your medical records. I know you are saying McDonald’s can’t look at my medical records without my permission, and you know what, you are absolutely right. But their insurance company can as every time you go to a doctor and sign a consent form for your insurance company to use your information, you are also allowing them to share that information with any insurance company they are affiliated with. And they are all affiliated.
The fact is statistically it is better business for the insurance company if McDonald’s hires an 18 year old in prime shape rather than a 50 year old who might break down.
Rule 2. Poor people have no rights in the courts. Let’s say you did record somebody saying that your age made a difference. All that person has to do, is say they are asking for their insurance company, and all of the sudden it becomes perfectly legal.
As for thinking any attorney would take the case, the first thing you would have to do in the attorney’s office is fill out a credit report. When the attorney finds out you are poor he will tell you that there is no way he could win the case in front of a jury and he’d be right. Remember if it was possible to get it in front of a jury, I promise you it would not be a jury of your fellow 99er peers. The people that are on that jury are going to be middle class people with jobs, some of which listen to Rush Limbaugh every day. And when it is brought up at the trial as to how long you’ve been unemployed all that programming from the mainstream media, that has portrayed you and me as lazy beggars wanting something for nothing, will kick in.
You know what you can do about it? Nothing. You know why? Because you are poor.
I have given you two of the rules that we poor have to live by. There are many more but they are easy to spot. Every time you find yourself shouting “Bullshit! this is against the law, they can’t do this to me!” You have just found another one.
Hope this will help you down the path of re-education. I truly like to help people and cheer them up every chance I get.
RULE 3….. You can rent land have a binding lease, wake up at 2.am to the sound of strangers, unloading 4 horses in your back yard, because the rich land owner decided to double lease the property you have already paid your rent on in full, on time every month for 2 years. then the owner calls the cops when you insist they remove the animals off the property, the cop first takes the owners side, and leaves the scene and leaves the horses,which in the mean time breaks down the neighbors fence, they come knocking on my door mad as hell, then i have to deal with them horses running threw the yard, with my small grandchildren present, my pregnant daughter in law slips on the ice as she was gathering her kids, i call the the sheriffs office quote the man on the phone the law, the cop is ordered to turn around and give the intruders 1 hr to vacate the horses, then i go see a lawyer and she advised me to move out if i did not like being violated, and not to break my lease or be late with any rent for the remaining time i stayed or i could be sued by the owner… the rich have no rules and the poor have no rights!!!!!!!!!!
Henry — I cracked up when I read your explanation to Eli. I know it was not meant to be funny because it is so very true but I just loved the way you explained it. You certainly cheered me up. Now back to work.
yes eli they did ask me my birth date and what year i graduated before that everything was great
I have not been on here in a while, the idea of protesting in fron of unemployment offices turned me off, it would. and if was implemented probably did, get back page news in the local rag coverage at best. I had suggested a law suit. An out of work attorney said it wouldn’t work. This after I had heard from an employed attorney that it could probably pass the “frivolous law suit test” if it were phrased right and said the right things, (an inculsion of of age discrimination being part of it). An ACLU or some other civil rights attorney would be the best for this. If we want to get noticed we need to make a loud noise. Today in London the students made a noise heard around the world. They MARCHED. A protest at our state houses involing thousands, or a march on Washington involving thousands, that will be noticed. Sitting outside our local unemployment offices is preaching to the choir. The people in there know what we are going through and hope we get the help. They talk to us everyday and they are human. The newspapaers are not going to come out for it. You want to get noticed rally where you are not welcome.
John,
The American Civil Liberty Union will tell you if you contact them that they will only talk to you if you have a case of sexual harassment or racial discrimination.
It is true if you just go sit in front of an Unemployment Office no one will take notice, however if 15 or 20 went there and marched up and down carrying signs and screaming on a bullhorn at the cars passing by, and if it happened all across the country on the same day, it is not unconceivable that you might get some media coverage.
A large march on the state or federal capitol would be a great difficulty as most 99ers can’t afford to travel very far. I don’t know that if 40,000 of us marching would accomplish anything either. I mean, look at London today. They came, they marched, the bill was passed anyway.
Sorry, but I don’t think we are going to talk our way out of this one.
If you can get ACLU to take your case, by all means go for it and sign me up. I’m not an attorney but I know enough about the law to feel fairly certain that any such lawsuit would not make it past a federal magistrate. The 14th Amendment to our Constitution makes us subjects to our government. In short, you can’t sue the king, especially if you are poor.
Thats the problem, no body wants to take physical action, if every one thinks they wont make a difference they wont, if people would do the protest together they would be noticed, there are a lot of people who are without income thanks to the thieves in our government , if fact we are big in numbers, do not make them look like they are rite about us, when they say the people on unemployment are not getting out there due to easy u.i checks., then they are sure no one will get off there butts when they run out, let them see we are out there looking for work and we will be out there looking for answers when we get no help or job!!! its not our fault that our economy is in shambles .. we deserve what is ours i could live good on all the taxes they stoled from me over the years, it was my money i worked for it.. i helped out payed more than my share and now when i need help well you know the rest of that story iam treated like a beggar, and all my paid in taxes goes to support illegal aliens who are committing a felony by crossing the borders illegally. having 15 kids so they can collect welfare . thats just what i wanted to do with my hard earned money.. how about you.. this country is a joke, dont be treated like this people get out there in mass numbers.!!!!!
I have not been on here in a while, the idea of protesting in fron of unemployment offices turned me off, it would. and if was implemented probably did, get back page news in the local rag coverage at best. I had suggested a law suit. An out of work attorney said it wouldn’t work. This after I had heard from an employed attorney that it could probably pass the “frivolous law suit test” if it were phrased right and said the right things, (an inculsion of of age discrimination being part of it). An ACLU or some other civil rights attorney would be the best for this. If we want to get noticed we need to make a loud noise. Today in London the students made a noise heard around the world. They MARCHED. A protest at our state houses involing thousands, or a march on Washington involving thousands, that will be noticed. Sitting outside our local unemployment offices is preaching to the choir. The people in there know what we are going through and hope we get the help. They talk to us everyday and they are human. The newspapaers are not going to come out for it. You want to get noticed rally where you are not welcome.
John,
The American Civil Liberty Union will tell you if you contact them that they will only talk to you if you have a case of sexual harassment or racial discrimination.
It is true if you just go sit in front of an Unemployment Office no one will take notice, however if 15 or 20 went there and marched up and down carrying signs and screaming on a bullhorn at the cars passing by, and if it happened all across the country on the same day, it is not unconceivable that you might get some media coverage.
A large march on the state or federal capitol would be a great difficulty as most 99ers can’t afford to travel very far. I don’t know that if 40,000 of us marching would accomplish anything either. I mean, look at London today. They came, they marched, the bill was passed anyway.
Sorry, but I don’t think we are going to talk our way out of this one.
If you can get ACLU to take your case, by all means go for it and sign me up. I’m not an attorney but I know enough about the law to feel fairly certain that any such lawsuit would not make it past a federal magistrate. The 14th Amendment to our Constitution makes us subjects to our government. In short, you can’t sue the king, especially if you are poor.
Thats the problem, no body wants to take physical action, if every one thinks they wont make a difference they wont, if people would do the protest together they would be noticed, there are a lot of people who are without income thanks to the thieves in our government , if fact we are big in numbers, do not make them look like they are rite about us, when they say the people on unemployment are not getting out there due to easy u.i checks., then they are sure no one will get off there butts when they run out, let them see we are out there looking for work and we will be out there looking for answers when we get no help or job!!! its not our fault that our economy is in shambles .. we deserve what is ours i could live good on all the taxes they stoled from me over the years, it was my money i worked for it.. i helped out payed more than my share and now when i need help well you know the rest of that story iam treated like a beggar, and all my paid in taxes goes to support illegal aliens who are committing a felony by crossing the borders illegally. having 15 kids so they can collect welfare . thats just what i wanted to do with my hard earned money.. how about you.. this country is a joke, dont be treated like this people get out there in mass numbers.!!!!!
Henry! I am glad to hear your so roused up! that is what we need!
and Yea! 99er Poor ! here!
anyhow I mentioned that so that if anything as we have interview after interview if we get lucky to have it go that far often, that we do not forget we are being discriminated against! with these bullshit questions and cherry picking tactics ! filing a complaint will hurt the company and make them change their interview practices, I have never been asked my age in an interview . I actually look allot younger than I am, nor have I ever asked ! really all i did is look at the year of graduation to figure that one out, and the credit issue yes I have lost a JOB due to my credit! almost had the job! but after my background check all was fine but my now disgusting credit !! my unpaid student loans where the worst! Well I l say Not doing much good crying about it huh I am ready to get rallying,
I wonder if it is ok to place an add on our local craigslist about NREUI ?
Eli, broke broke broke!!!
Henry! I am glad to hear your so roused up! that is what we need!
and Yea! 99er Poor ! here!
anyhow I mentioned that so that if anything as we have interview after interview if we get lucky to have it go that far often, that we do not forget we are being discriminated against! with these bullshit questions and cherry picking tactics ! filing a complaint will hurt the company and make them change their interview practices, I have never been asked my age in an interview . I actually look allot younger than I am, nor have I ever asked ! really all i did is look at the year of graduation to figure that one out, and the credit issue yes I have lost a JOB due to my credit! almost had the job! but after my background check all was fine but my now disgusting credit !! my unpaid student loans where the worst! Well I l say Not doing much good crying about it huh I am ready to get rallying,
I wonder if it is ok to place an add on our local craigslist about NREUI ?
Eli, broke broke broke!!!
what about the jobs where you are required to speak Spanish!! did they move the boarder when i wasnt looking?
what about the jobs where you are required to speak Spanish!! did they move the boarder when i wasnt looking?
Henry just sent you an E-mail
To Mary I am bilingual Spanish that is not helping me much!
Eli,
thats because the illegal aliens will do your job cheaper with no complaints, i bet there schooling is free to learn to do your job, and maybe even free housing and special head start programs to teach their kids English/ built in baby sitter and funds from the government to pay a baby sitter after schools out!!!!!
Henry just sent you an E-mail
To Mary I am bilingual Spanish that is not helping me much!
Eli,
thats because the illegal aliens will do your job cheaper with no complaints, i bet there schooling is free to learn to do your job, and maybe even free housing and special head start programs to teach their kids English/ built in baby sitter and funds from the government to pay a baby sitter after schools out!!!!!
My Parents are Legal Aliens in this country .Migrated from Mexico they came here legally worked their entire lives and now are retired. That So called Dream they came for. did Not reach us Born in The USA!
my Brothers and sisters have very Strong work ethics because of my hard working parents from Mexico.
I am proud Mexican American . born in the USA and unemployed!! its not a race issue .
THE ILLEGALS ARE TAKING JOBS, FROM AMERICAN CITIZENS, THATS HOW IT AFFECTS UNEMPLOYMENT!!!! and bleeding our government dry, maybe there would be a tier 5 ,6 and 7, if our tax dollars did not go to the special programs offered to them… GO BACK TO MEXICO if you dont like the way american BORN citizens think….
Eli, just one more thing I am a Native American,
My Parents are Legal Aliens in this country .Migrated from Mexico they came here legally worked their entire lives and now are retired. That So called Dream they came for. did Not reach us Born in The USA!
my Brothers and sisters have very Strong work ethics because of my hard working parents from Mexico.
I am proud Mexican American . born in the USA and unemployed!! its not a race issue .
THE ILLEGALS ARE TAKING JOBS, FROM AMERICAN CITIZENS, THATS HOW IT AFFECTS UNEMPLOYMENT!!!! and bleeding our government dry, maybe there would be a tier 5 ,6 and 7, if our tax dollars did not go to the special programs offered to them… GO BACK TO MEXICO if you dont like the way american BORN citizens think….
Eli, just one more thing I am a Native American,
I have kind of a wierd idea, which makes alot of sense. I was watching a show on the history channel about Marajuana and I thaught about it and I think legalizing it, would provide ALOT of revenue for the country. Then they could begin to climb out of the deficit, give the 99er’s another extension, make tons of jobs as well as stimulate the economy. I would have never suggested this if the economy wasn’t in such a mess, but desperate times call for desperate measures
Tina, Yeah and you can make your clothes out of it too.
I have kind of a wierd idea, which makes alot of sense. I was watching a show on the history channel about Marajuana and I thaught about it and I think legalizing it, would provide ALOT of revenue for the country. Then they could begin to climb out of the deficit, give the 99er’s another extension, make tons of jobs as well as stimulate the economy. I would have never suggested this if the economy wasn’t in such a mess, but desperate times call for desperate measures
Tina, Yeah and you can make your clothes out of it too.
Anyone catch wind-of any rallies or protests being organized in NYC ? Please Lmk asap. I have been so ready to mobilize. I will wait no longer. I am producing my signs w/ the text : “Unemployed 2&1/2 yrs. Army Vet 99er” and the other hand-held sign : ” Give me a shot ! Give me a JOB!” I will wear my Army dress-green jacket and my fatigues baseball cap. Too cold today though, I’m shootin’ for next week. Meanwhile, I keep-on replying to most of these “bogus” job ads
Hi, Joe
FlashMobs4Jobs has been taking action every couple weeks. I always seem to hear about it after the fact. The only time they got a tiny bit of coverage was when they did a Sit In at the Unemployment office on Varick St. 4 out of 20 were arrested, cuffed, and hauled away for civil disobedience. Naomi Cohn wrote about them yesterday on the Examiner blog (“NY Labor Commissioner meets with 99ers as unemployment benefits lapse”).
Just checked out their site. They’re calling for a Nation Wide candle light vigil at City Hall on Monday, December 20th.
Cool. I’m on-it!
Anyone catch wind-of any rallies or protests being organized in NYC ? Please Lmk asap. I have been so ready to mobilize. I will wait no longer. I am producing my signs w/ the text : “Unemployed 2&1/2 yrs. Army Vet 99er” and the other hand-held sign : ” Give me a shot ! Give me a JOB!” I will wear my Army dress-green jacket and my fatigues baseball cap. Too cold today though, I’m shootin’ for next week. Meanwhile, I keep-on replying to most of these “bogus” job ads
Hi, Joe
FlashMobs4Jobs has been taking action every couple weeks. I always seem to hear about it after the fact. The only time they got a tiny bit of coverage was when they did a Sit In at the Unemployment office on Varick St. 4 out of 20 were arrested, cuffed, and hauled away for civil disobedience. Naomi Cohn wrote about them yesterday on the Examiner blog (“NY Labor Commissioner meets with 99ers as unemployment benefits lapse”).
Just checked out their site. They’re calling for a Nation Wide candle light vigil at City Hall on Monday, December 20th.
Cool. I’m on-it!
Hello everyone;
I’m a bit confused about the passing of the bill. Are the 99’ers abandoned again or not ? They kepp saying that the extension will cover “the long term unemployed”. Are they twisting words ? I’m still joining the candlelight demonstration @ City Hall tomorrow regardless.
Joe,
You are confused. The 99ers are screwed again. It just continues Tiers 1-4 who haven’t used up their 99 weeks.
Hello everyone;
I’m a bit confused about the passing of the bill. Are the 99’ers abandoned again or not ? They kepp saying that the extension will cover “the long term unemployed”. Are they twisting words ? I’m still joining the candlelight demonstration @ City Hall tomorrow regardless.
Joe,
You are confused. The 99ers are screwed again. It just continues Tiers 1-4 who haven’t used up their 99 weeks.
Henry — Weeks ago I mentioned trying to hook up with foreign countries for emergency relief. Do you have any ideas on this matter? I know it would make the news. We have got to try everything possible to draw attention to us. I have ideas I just don’t know how to implement them.
Barbara, I had a friend once who was a Viet Nam Vet who couldn’t get his GI loan. So he wrote a letter to Fidel Castro and asked if he would give him one of the checks our country sends to Cuba every year to pay the rent on Guantanamo Bay. Cuba does not cash these checks as they do not want us at Guantanamo Bay. Anyway, the state department stopped his letter from getting through.
I would think that the identity of say, a minister in France who is responsible for foreign aid could be ascertained through a little research. And technology being what it is today, he or she probably has Facebook and Twitter account, if not surely a website. It’s worth taking a look anyway. Hope this helps.
Henry — Weeks ago I mentioned trying to hook up with foreign countries for emergency relief. Do you have any ideas on this matter? I know it would make the news. We have got to try everything possible to draw attention to us. I have ideas I just don’t know how to implement them.
Barbara, I had a friend once who was a Viet Nam Vet who couldn’t get his GI loan. So he wrote a letter to Fidel Castro and asked if he would give him one of the checks our country sends to Cuba every year to pay the rent on Guantanamo Bay. Cuba does not cash these checks as they do not want us at Guantanamo Bay. Anyway, the state department stopped his letter from getting through.
I would think that the identity of say, a minister in France who is responsible for foreign aid could be ascertained through a little research. And technology being what it is today, he or she probably has Facebook and Twitter account, if not surely a website. It’s worth taking a look anyway. Hope this helps.
It appears Tony the Troll is frothing at the mouth through frustration. He wants to rub salt in our wounds but I won’t let him on the site. It really makes me wonder exactly what his trip is.
At any rate, what a pathetic creature.
I bet he’s going nuts. Most of these clowns are a crate short of a full load anyway.
It appears Tony the Troll is frothing at the mouth through frustration. He wants to rub salt in our wounds but I won’t let him on the site. It really makes me wonder exactly what his trip is.
At any rate, what a pathetic creature.
I bet he’s going nuts. Most of these clowns are a crate short of a full load anyway.
Henry,
Have you heard anything about H.R.6556 and if so do you think it has any chance?
Mark-Tenn,
If it passed we might be able to access it, however it is very vague. The bottom line is those in Congress do not care about issues which do not affect them. At this point in the ball game they do not see the 99ers as affecting them. I think the Speaker of the House would have to bring the legislation to the floor for debate and Harry Reid has already shown that unless the legislation involved a gay illegal, he could care less.
I’m not going to get my hopes up.
Henry
I agree, not getting my hopes up neither and you are so right, they could care less about us. What every one of those corrupted bastards needs is a good old fashioned ass stomping.
Henry, I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas the best that you can under the circumstances we all face.
Henry,
Have you heard anything about H.R.6556 and if so do you think it has any chance?
Mark-Tenn,
If it passed we might be able to access it, however it is very vague. The bottom line is those in Congress do not care about issues which do not affect them. At this point in the ball game they do not see the 99ers as affecting them. I think the Speaker of the House would have to bring the legislation to the floor for debate and Harry Reid has already shown that unless the legislation involved a gay illegal, he could care less.
I’m not going to get my hopes up.
Henry
I agree, not getting my hopes up neither and you are so right, they could care less about us. What every one of those corrupted bastards needs is a good old fashioned ass stomping.
Henry, I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas the best that you can under the circumstances we all face.
Henry,
Maybe putting a barter exchange area on the site might be a good idea. Might generate a lot of interest.
Mark,
I’ve always liked the idea of barter, however I think that any such endeavor would have problems. If you look at our Organized Resistance, States Represented So Far list the people signed up are few and far between. In this scenario a straight across barter would turn into a shipping nightmare. Even if you had a site just for barter, the distance between potential barterers would be a problem. If the site were to be a success, monitoring it would become the next nightmare. Take a look at Craigslist, if not watched closely you would find the FCC knocking on your door wanting to talk to you about somebody wanting to barter sex for gold rings. I don’t know that the idea is not feasible, but I think someone should make an in-depth study of the logistics before proceeding. This would be interstate commerce. At any rate, let me know what you think.
Yeah, I see your point. Might get a little sticky legally. I was thinking web-site design for simple para legal work things like that. Also was thinking maybe a place for people to post their resume’s on the site. Leaving their resumes somehow for other to see and evaluate. Might get some match-ups. Might be something to think about once we get more traffic.
Henry,
Maybe putting a barter exchange area on the site might be a good idea. Might generate a lot of interest.
Mark,
I’ve always liked the idea of barter, however I think that any such endeavor would have problems. If you look at our Organized Resistance, States Represented So Far list the people signed up are few and far between. In this scenario a straight across barter would turn into a shipping nightmare. Even if you had a site just for barter, the distance between potential barterers would be a problem. If the site were to be a success, monitoring it would become the next nightmare. Take a look at Craigslist, if not watched closely you would find the FCC knocking on your door wanting to talk to you about somebody wanting to barter sex for gold rings. I don’t know that the idea is not feasible, but I think someone should make an in-depth study of the logistics before proceeding. This would be interstate commerce. At any rate, let me know what you think.
Yeah, I see your point. Might get a little sticky legally. I was thinking web-site design for simple para legal work things like that. Also was thinking maybe a place for people to post their resume’s on the site. Leaving their resumes somehow for other to see and evaluate. Might get some match-ups. Might be something to think about once we get more traffic.
Just found this site…Live in Washington state (Spokane). Not a 99er yet but getting close. I’m all in…but for 5 million people that were handed a s**t sandwich for Christmas by congress, there sure doesn’t appear to be much anger to change their lot…The definition of insanity…Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results…The system is broke and we are being screwed…What do we need to do?
Just found this site…Live in Washington state (Spokane). Not a 99er yet but getting close. I’m all in…but for 5 million people that were handed a s**t sandwich for Christmas by congress, there sure doesn’t appear to be much anger to change their lot…The definition of insanity…Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results…The system is broke and we are being screwed…What do we need to do?
MANY GREAT SPIRITS HAVE ENCOUNTERED GREAT OPPOSITION FROM MEDIOCRE MINDS!!!!!
MANY GREAT SPIRITS HAVE ENCOUNTERED GREAT OPPOSITION FROM MEDIOCRE MINDS!!!!!
It’s to organize and march upon them. Put the fear of God in them. Make them afraid very afraid!!
It’s to organize and march upon them. Put the fear of God in them. Make them afraid very afraid!!
I have many thoughts on things… I would like to share my ideals and thoughts on these subjects. I must ask though, how safe is it to post such things when big bro is certainly paying attention. Perhaps I am being overly paranoid, but I know what “black bags” are for. Direct communication appears much more secure. Granted, going through hoops is a pain, but it may be the best way to have more secure conversations. I’ll elaborate if anyone is interested.
I have many thoughts on things… I would like to share my ideals and thoughts on these subjects. I must ask though, how safe is it to post such things when big bro is certainly paying attention. Perhaps I am being overly paranoid, but I know what “black bags” are for. Direct communication appears much more secure. Granted, going through hoops is a pain, but it may be the best way to have more secure conversations. I’ll elaborate if anyone is interested.
What I would like to see us do is start preparing dossiers on all the Congressmen. These “fact sheets” will do several things for us…It will allow us to understand who we are truly up against, It will expose weakness that might be exploited in our favor, and it will cause the congressmen to take notice that the unemployed (the little folks to these Aristocratic Elitists) are getting organized. First step in any engagement is to know your enemy. The dossiers are pretty easy to put together, there is enough public information available on these people, that we could get some interesting reading. While we are working on these dossiers we need to the let the press know that we are collecting information on all congressmen in order to determine who we will recommed to our constituency of over 15 million people for reelection in 2012, and that if they cover this, we would happily turn over any tidbits of information that might be discovered….Additionally, we can add the VP and President, and all potential candidates for election in 2012…This will cause heads to turn…Email me at gordon@unemployedandangry.com if you are interested…
What I would like to see us do is start preparing dossiers on all the Congressmen. These “fact sheets” will do several things for us…It will allow us to understand who we are truly up against, It will expose weakness that might be exploited in our favor, and it will cause the congressmen to take notice that the unemployed (the little folks to these Aristocratic Elitists) are getting organized. First step in any engagement is to know your enemy. The dossiers are pretty easy to put together, there is enough public information available on these people, that we could get some interesting reading. While we are working on these dossiers we need to the let the press know that we are collecting information on all congressmen in order to determine who we will recommed to our constituency of over 15 million people for reelection in 2012, and that if they cover this, we would happily turn over any tidbits of information that might be discovered….Additionally, we can add the VP and President, and all potential candidates for election in 2012…This will cause heads to turn…Email me at gordon@unemployedandangry.com if you are interested…
Henry and Barbara,
Thank you doesn’t seem enough to say to you both.
Barbara, like you, I’ve been reading anything I can find on 99ers and Tier V. Many sites won’t allow me to post either.
Out of curiosity, has anyone been reading the latest from All247News about organizing the 99ers?
What are your thoughts, Henry?
Angel, Everyone seems to operating on the premise that the 99er dilemma is all just one big misunderstanding. It is not. The fact is the culling of the 99ers is a well thought out plan and a part of its execution is misinformation through the media. Ex-Federal District Court Judge Andrew Napolitano stated on his show that the unemployed are getting three years of unemployment. This is not an error. I promise you this man can read a piece of legislation and know what it says. This is deliberate misinformation.
As for writing local newspapers the one where I live is owned by the same international corporation that owns half of this state and is working on owning the other half.
As for organizing the 99ers, maybe I missed something, but I thought that is what we were doing here. When I first put up this site there was no place for the 99ers to organize. Since I’ve put it up, every Tom, Dick, and 247News has tried to make their site the 99er organizing site. So they come here and try to draw people off in a hundred different directions doing a hundred different things, instead of people taking coordinated actions. These people are seeking personal power and numbers to increase the size of their website. Frankly I’m getting a little sick of it. These people cannot even spell the word strategy, let alone know how to develop one. They have become like leaches on my ass cheeks.
So from now on if anyone comes here trying to promote another site in order to siphon people off of this site their comments are going in the fucking trash.
Thanks, Henry. Actually, I thought we could try to post information about this site to siphon people off of their sites. Like Barbara, I try. Maybe some one else would have better luck. I’m very sorry if you misunderstood and thought I was doing the opposte.
Angel, I don’t mean to discourage you and certainly not to insult, but look at their steps on All247News. We are past this. The present agenda is the media. The media has made themselves our sworn enemy. We do not consolidate with an enemy. We destroy it and then move on to the next enemy.
I do not like to get abrasive but when I first started writing on the 99er situation and trying to affect a change everyone else had pretty much given up and it was a dead issue. If you look at my old articles you will see that my agenda was to educate, unite, and then bring the 99ers together in a common effort and use common slogans to project unity and force. I could walk away from this thing today and sit back and watch it die as the people who are wanting to take over the helm have never fought a war like this before. I have.
I’m just getting a little sick of people trying to use me as a strategy bank for their own purposes. If everyone on our Organized Resistance list did go out on the net in a single day and put in three or four hours trying to bring people here to unite we might actually accomplish something. But as sure as we get a few people coming here there would a few people trying to get them to go somewhere else and do something else. I will not be left wiping my ass on a hula hoop. If all these people out there starting up and converting sites to the 99er issue knew what they were doing I would not have had to learn how to put up a web site. The fact is I’m not going to be used by other people.
You have been at this site from the beginning, so I consider you one of us. But any time you see one of these new leaders pop up with one, two, or twenty steps to success go back in my articles and you will see where they contrived their ideas.
Again, if I offended you I apologize, but the fact is we need to start working on some of our agendas, like attacking the mainstream media as it is at present the greatest obstacle standing between us and success in our cause. Keep up the good work. Your friend, Henry
Why is it that I feel the line between legal and not-so-legal must be blurred for us to have success in taking on the mainstream media? If it must be done, so be it. Give me a specific goal to accomplish and it will be done. That is, in between trying to survive with no income and continue looking for work of any sort. I am here to make a change because my government has stabbed me in the back, let alone choosing to spew lies to the general media zombie audience. After all, the government’s general policy of just not providing information and making things disappear works well. Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble, haven’t ate a good meal in a while. Anyway, I am off to find some sort of breakfast (as it will be my first food of the day). Take care everyone, Happy New Year! =)
Henry and Barbara,
Thank you doesn’t seem enough to say to you both.
Barbara, like you, I’ve been reading anything I can find on 99ers and Tier V. Many sites won’t allow me to post either.
Out of curiosity, has anyone been reading the latest from All247News about organizing the 99ers?
What are your thoughts, Henry?
Angel, Everyone seems to operating on the premise that the 99er dilemma is all just one big misunderstanding. It is not. The fact is the culling of the 99ers is a well thought out plan and a part of its execution is misinformation through the media. Ex-Federal District Court Judge Andrew Napolitano stated on his show that the unemployed are getting three years of unemployment. This is not an error. I promise you this man can read a piece of legislation and know what it says. This is deliberate misinformation.
As for writing local newspapers the one where I live is owned by the same international corporation that owns half of this state and is working on owning the other half.
As for organizing the 99ers, maybe I missed something, but I thought that is what we were doing here. When I first put up this site there was no place for the 99ers to organize. Since I’ve put it up, every Tom, Dick, and 247News has tried to make their site the 99er organizing site. So they come here and try to draw people off in a hundred different directions doing a hundred different things, instead of people taking coordinated actions. These people are seeking personal power and numbers to increase the size of their website. Frankly I’m getting a little sick of it. These people cannot even spell the word strategy, let alone know how to develop one. They have become like leaches on my ass cheeks.
So from now on if anyone comes here trying to promote another site in order to siphon people off of this site their comments are going in the fucking trash.
Thanks, Henry. Actually, I thought we could try to post information about this site to siphon people off of their sites. Like Barbara, I try. Maybe some one else would have better luck. I’m very sorry if you misunderstood and thought I was doing the opposte.
Angel, I don’t mean to discourage you and certainly not to insult, but look at their steps on All247News. We are past this. The present agenda is the media. The media has made themselves our sworn enemy. We do not consolidate with an enemy. We destroy it and then move on to the next enemy.
I do not like to get abrasive but when I first started writing on the 99er situation and trying to affect a change everyone else had pretty much given up and it was a dead issue. If you look at my old articles you will see that my agenda was to educate, unite, and then bring the 99ers together in a common effort and use common slogans to project unity and force. I could walk away from this thing today and sit back and watch it die as the people who are wanting to take over the helm have never fought a war like this before. I have.
I’m just getting a little sick of people trying to use me as a strategy bank for their own purposes. If everyone on our Organized Resistance list did go out on the net in a single day and put in three or four hours trying to bring people here to unite we might actually accomplish something. But as sure as we get a few people coming here there would a few people trying to get them to go somewhere else and do something else. I will not be left wiping my ass on a hula hoop. If all these people out there starting up and converting sites to the 99er issue knew what they were doing I would not have had to learn how to put up a web site. The fact is I’m not going to be used by other people.
You have been at this site from the beginning, so I consider you one of us. But any time you see one of these new leaders pop up with one, two, or twenty steps to success go back in my articles and you will see where they contrived their ideas.
Again, if I offended you I apologize, but the fact is we need to start working on some of our agendas, like attacking the mainstream media as it is at present the greatest obstacle standing between us and success in our cause. Keep up the good work. Your friend, Henry
Why is it that I feel the line between legal and not-so-legal must be blurred for us to have success in taking on the mainstream media? If it must be done, so be it. Give me a specific goal to accomplish and it will be done. That is, in between trying to survive with no income and continue looking for work of any sort. I am here to make a change because my government has stabbed me in the back, let alone choosing to spew lies to the general media zombie audience. After all, the government’s general policy of just not providing information and making things disappear works well. Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble, haven’t ate a good meal in a while. Anyway, I am off to find some sort of breakfast (as it will be my first food of the day). Take care everyone, Happy New Year! =)
Henry-
This is the kind of thing that chaps my ass. Sounds like this guy has stolen your play book. It was just posted about 15 minutes after your last post. I mean, you would think this guy would at least use his own words.
http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/No-Tier-5-Unemployment-Extension-For-99ers-A-Means-To-WWIII.aspx
Mark, I do not mind articles like the one on RantRave one bit. This is a positive as it is a perpetuation of the education and it shows that more people are waking up. What I do mind is when individuals start trying to drag the movement in 20 different directions as this is the opposite of uniting. I would not have cared who caused the 99ers to be united, I just do not like going to work on something and having people who want nothing more than personal power screwing things up.
Yeah, well it’s mind boggling how these clowns get first page status in the Google line-up and getting some decent exposure, while Trenches World Report are getting held underwater. Makes you feel like your running againts 170 MPH winds.
Mark, Yeah that’s a fact, but it does establish that they fear us and if we do not quit they will have no choice but to put us in their search engine after which our cause will explode. We are going to win this, we just have to stay determined and not allow anyone to push us around or use us.
Henry,I am new here and I commend you on the great job you are doing.
Even tho I have my own (very small) site,I would not want you to think I am trying to siphon people from you to me. That is not my intent. I believe my site is just my private hell to have a place to scream into the darkness.
I will drive any and all I can towards your site. We 99ers need to stick together and raise a little hell and be noticed.
thanks
Kegroening,
Brother, I do not begrudge you your site in any way. I wouldn’t care if there were a hundred 99er sites, if they could all just agree on a single strategy and work in unison towards a common goal. The problem arises when you have people who get to thinking about the power that can be welded by a single person if that person could control the actions of a million. That is why I have always said we must stay as individuals. The last thing we need is another one or two or five people trying to control us. A loose command structure is one of the things our enemies fear as there are no orders form headquarters. Our enemies’ greatest fear is the lone wolf. Imagine 15 million lone wolves, following a single idea. We have to remember we are dealing with control freaks and they fear what they can not predict.
Thanks and I agree. the only power I want to weld is the power to change (and help ) how us 99ers are treated.
Henry-
This is the kind of thing that chaps my ass. Sounds like this guy has stolen your play book. It was just posted about 15 minutes after your last post. I mean, you would think this guy would at least use his own words.
http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/No-Tier-5-Unemployment-Extension-For-99ers-A-Means-To-WWIII.aspx
Mark, I do not mind articles like the one on RantRave one bit. This is a positive as it is a perpetuation of the education and it shows that more people are waking up. What I do mind is when individuals start trying to drag the movement in 20 different directions as this is the opposite of uniting. I would not have cared who caused the 99ers to be united, I just do not like going to work on something and having people who want nothing more than personal power screwing things up.
Yeah, well it’s mind boggling how these clowns get first page status in the Google line-up and getting some decent exposure, while Trenches World Report are getting held underwater. Makes you feel like your running againts 170 MPH winds.
Mark, Yeah that’s a fact, but it does establish that they fear us and if we do not quit they will have no choice but to put us in their search engine after which our cause will explode. We are going to win this, we just have to stay determined and not allow anyone to push us around or use us.
Henry,I am new here and I commend you on the great job you are doing.
Even tho I have my own (very small) site,I would not want you to think I am trying to siphon people from you to me. That is not my intent. I believe my site is just my private hell to have a place to scream into the darkness.
I will drive any and all I can towards your site. We 99ers need to stick together and raise a little hell and be noticed.
thanks
Kegroening,
Brother, I do not begrudge you your site in any way. I wouldn’t care if there were a hundred 99er sites, if they could all just agree on a single strategy and work in unison towards a common goal. The problem arises when you have people who get to thinking about the power that can be welded by a single person if that person could control the actions of a million. That is why I have always said we must stay as individuals. The last thing we need is another one or two or five people trying to control us. A loose command structure is one of the things our enemies fear as there are no orders form headquarters. Our enemies’ greatest fear is the lone wolf. Imagine 15 million lone wolves, following a single idea. We have to remember we are dealing with control freaks and they fear what they can not predict.
Thanks and I agree. the only power I want to weld is the power to change (and help ) how us 99ers are treated.
henry is it true that we will be counted in there new unemployment # s i seen an article yesterday saying that they were going to change it from 2yrs to 5 years so the economists could get a real sense of how bad it really is but i could be wrong not real sure
Robert,
It is true but they only count to five years starting January 1st. So the way it looks on its face they are not going to count anyone who lost their job before tomorrow, at least that is the way it looks to me and the report will not come out until April.
henry is it true that we will be counted in there new unemployment # s i seen an article yesterday saying that they were going to change it from 2yrs to 5 years so the economists could get a real sense of how bad it really is but i could be wrong not real sure
Robert,
It is true but they only count to five years starting January 1st. So the way it looks on its face they are not going to count anyone who lost their job before tomorrow, at least that is the way it looks to me and the report will not come out until April.
This is just a thought and may not be a good one but nothing ventured nothing gained.What about contacting people like Ed Schultz and Rachael Maddow who do speak out about the 99ers or even shows like Good Morning America and local news outlets.That’s what politicians do when they want to get their point of view out there. Put faces to our cause so we are not just an article spoken about or read about. Any way,I would like to wish everyone a happy and hopefully new year.
Debbie,
I agree that the 99ers need to contact news people and instead of having rallies near or around the capitol the rallies should take place in front of the news studios or where newspapers are printed. If hundreds and hundreds of people showed up in front those locations they will report it since it’s in their back yard and not miles away and some of the organizers may even be interviewed. But remember it has to be done orderly with passion lots of passion or the people viewing these rallies will be turned against the 99ers instead being their extra voice.
Happy New Year everyone
Debbie, We have the enemy identified. We must remember the mainstream media is owned by the very same corporations that want the 99ers to just go away. Ed Schultz and Rachael Maddow have spoken out for the 99ers but when they do so unfortunately we are put in the same category in the minds of our fellow citizens as communists and gays. When Ed Schultz spoke at the rally in Washington DC, I checked into who was sponsoring it. That is when I found out that are many openly communist groups operating in our country. Ed Schultz and company would have us accept communism as an avenue to food.
If we enforce our Constitution we can take back all that has been stolen and do away with NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT as they accomplish the opposite of what our representative government is supposed to be doing, which is protect American jobs and industry as is dictated in the Constitution.
The press is the obstacle standing in our way at the moment. We have to remember what the press is, propaganda being put forth as viable information. We have to show the propagandists for what they are, liars and cheaters serving special interests. I promise you if we investigate these people’s past and present and publish the dirt we find on You Tube, we can discredit them to the point that they will pacify us just to get us to stop. Once we force them to report on the activities of the 99ers, then we can change our strategy to use the press we get to outrage our fellow working brothers and sisters. Once this is accomplished the corporations will be forced to give or face a united population, determined to destroy them before they destroy us.
But first and foremost, we must have the numbers.
You know that many of us have printers why not make up flyers and hand them out put them on car windows or even put them on door knobs there are many ways to do thing other than the papers or press. you could even start a small paper.
Dee Dee, As to your comment on Face Book, issues like racism exist and covering them up does nothing to solve the problem. Our freedom of speech is under attack in this country. We cannot accept allowing our scope of knowledge to be reduced to what they want us to know or what is politically correct.
As for handing out flyers it is a good idea and I know of some people who have been doing it for months.
Henry if you havent noticed our freedom of speach has been under attack for a long time now not just recently as for reducing our scope of knowledge that has also been happening forever we are only told what they want us to hear and unless we as a body of people question and find out for ourselves then we all have let the gov. put the blinders on us. It’s sad that it takes something like this for people to open their eyes to who and what our enemys are doing to this country and we elected them.
Dee Dee, I am unfortunately quite aware of the attack our Republic has been under literally since its inception. I am a regional commander in the United States Militia and have been fighting as a patriot for the past thirty years. I have had my bones broken, my blood spilled, and have served time as a political prisoner. In short, none of this is new to me. If I had a copy of all the lists I am on and it was on micro-fish I would need a dump truck to haul it around in.
It is always refreshing to see someone with your enthusiasm step forth. Welcome aboard.
Jackson: Send Me Your Resumes
Friday, 07 January 2011 00:00
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Andrew Wilson
January 7, 2011 (202) 225-0773
JACKSON: SEND ME YOUR RESUMES
National Effort to Dramatize Unemployment Problem Begins Today
Today, Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. issued a call for resumes on the floor of the House of Representatives, in order to demonstrate the unemployment problem in the country. Following his remarks, he made the following statement:
“Today, I began an effort to mobilize the unemployed, the under-employed and the economically desperate. I will be collecting resumes of out-of-work Americans in order to submit them for the Congressional Record as a way of putting a face on the jobs crisis we confront. By sending their resumes to me, the unemployed will be permitting me to use their stories as we fight for jobs and enter their curriculum vitae into the Record.
“Of course, sending me a resume will not put anybody first in line for a job. It will not be forwarded to anybody who is hiring. But it will put the jobs issue front and center before the government so that we can remind elected officials that we need to go to work everyday for those who aren’t allowed to go to work everyday, but want to,” Jackson concluded.
Resumes can be emailed to ResumesforAmerica@mail.house.govThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or sent by mail to:
Congressman Jesse L. Jackson, Jr.
2419 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC, 20009
Jackson’s remarks on the floor of the House, as prepared for delivery, are as follows:
“Mr. Speaker, as we enter 2011, we find ourselves in the same jobs situation as in 2010.
“In order to show the huge need for jobs, I’ll be collecting resumes from Americans who are unemployed or underemployed. I’ll submit them for the Congressional Record.
“Unfortunately, submitting these resumes for the Record will NOT get anybody a job.
“By collecting these resumes, I hope to dramatize the shameful condition of unemployment and compel action to do something about it. I hope to remind my colleagues every day that we work for those Americans who have been left behind, but who want to work.
“Today I call on my fellow Americans to send me your resume and your story to resumesforAmerica@mail.house.govThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . If you are out of work, send me your resume and story so that I can use it to remind our government of the need to act.
“Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said that America has issued a bad check, that it has come back marked insufficient funds….But the vault of opportunity of this nation is not bankrupt.
“Again, Mr. Speaker, sending a resume to me will not put you first in line for any job. But it will put you front and center to remind your government that so many Americans are in need, and that we must create jobs.
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker.”
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This is just a thought and may not be a good one but nothing ventured nothing gained.What about contacting people like Ed Schultz and Rachael Maddow who do speak out about the 99ers or even shows like Good Morning America and local news outlets.That’s what politicians do when they want to get their point of view out there. Put faces to our cause so we are not just an article spoken about or read about. Any way,I would like to wish everyone a happy and hopefully new year.
Debbie,
I agree that the 99ers need to contact news people and instead of having rallies near or around the capitol the rallies should take place in front of the news studios or where newspapers are printed. If hundreds and hundreds of people showed up in front those locations they will report it since it’s in their back yard and not miles away and some of the organizers may even be interviewed. But remember it has to be done orderly with passion lots of passion or the people viewing these rallies will be turned against the 99ers instead being their extra voice.
Happy New Year everyone
Debbie, We have the enemy identified. We must remember the mainstream media is owned by the very same corporations that want the 99ers to just go away. Ed Schultz and Rachael Maddow have spoken out for the 99ers but when they do so unfortunately we are put in the same category in the minds of our fellow citizens as communists and gays. When Ed Schultz spoke at the rally in Washington DC, I checked into who was sponsoring it. That is when I found out that are many openly communist groups operating in our country. Ed Schultz and company would have us accept communism as an avenue to food.
If we enforce our Constitution we can take back all that has been stolen and do away with NAFTA, CAFTA, and GATT as they accomplish the opposite of what our representative government is supposed to be doing, which is protect American jobs and industry as is dictated in the Constitution.
The press is the obstacle standing in our way at the moment. We have to remember what the press is, propaganda being put forth as viable information. We have to show the propagandists for what they are, liars and cheaters serving special interests. I promise you if we investigate these people’s past and present and publish the dirt we find on You Tube, we can discredit them to the point that they will pacify us just to get us to stop. Once we force them to report on the activities of the 99ers, then we can change our strategy to use the press we get to outrage our fellow working brothers and sisters. Once this is accomplished the corporations will be forced to give or face a united population, determined to destroy them before they destroy us.
But first and foremost, we must have the numbers.
You know that many of us have printers why not make up flyers and hand them out put them on car windows or even put them on door knobs there are many ways to do thing other than the papers or press. you could even start a small paper.
Dee Dee, As to your comment on Face Book, issues like racism exist and covering them up does nothing to solve the problem. Our freedom of speech is under attack in this country. We cannot accept allowing our scope of knowledge to be reduced to what they want us to know or what is politically correct.
As for handing out flyers it is a good idea and I know of some people who have been doing it for months.
Henry if you havent noticed our freedom of speach has been under attack for a long time now not just recently as for reducing our scope of knowledge that has also been happening forever we are only told what they want us to hear and unless we as a body of people question and find out for ourselves then we all have let the gov. put the blinders on us. It’s sad that it takes something like this for people to open their eyes to who and what our enemys are doing to this country and we elected them.
Dee Dee, I am unfortunately quite aware of the attack our Republic has been under literally since its inception. I am a regional commander in the United States Militia and have been fighting as a patriot for the past thirty years. I have had my bones broken, my blood spilled, and have served time as a political prisoner. In short, none of this is new to me. If I had a copy of all the lists I am on and it was on micro-fish I would need a dump truck to haul it around in.
It is always refreshing to see someone with your enthusiasm step forth. Welcome aboard.
Jackson: Send Me Your Resumes
Friday, 07 January 2011 00:00
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Andrew Wilson
January 7, 2011 (202) 225-0773
JACKSON: SEND ME YOUR RESUMES
National Effort to Dramatize Unemployment Problem Begins Today
Today, Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. issued a call for resumes on the floor of the House of Representatives, in order to demonstrate the unemployment problem in the country. Following his remarks, he made the following statement:
“Today, I began an effort to mobilize the unemployed, the under-employed and the economically desperate. I will be collecting resumes of out-of-work Americans in order to submit them for the Congressional Record as a way of putting a face on the jobs crisis we confront. By sending their resumes to me, the unemployed will be permitting me to use their stories as we fight for jobs and enter their curriculum vitae into the Record.
“Of course, sending me a resume will not put anybody first in line for a job. It will not be forwarded to anybody who is hiring. But it will put the jobs issue front and center before the government so that we can remind elected officials that we need to go to work everyday for those who aren’t allowed to go to work everyday, but want to,” Jackson concluded.
Resumes can be emailed to ResumesforAmerica@mail.house.govThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , or sent by mail to:
Congressman Jesse L. Jackson, Jr.
2419 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC, 20009
Jackson’s remarks on the floor of the House, as prepared for delivery, are as follows:
“Mr. Speaker, as we enter 2011, we find ourselves in the same jobs situation as in 2010.
“In order to show the huge need for jobs, I’ll be collecting resumes from Americans who are unemployed or underemployed. I’ll submit them for the Congressional Record.
“Unfortunately, submitting these resumes for the Record will NOT get anybody a job.
“By collecting these resumes, I hope to dramatize the shameful condition of unemployment and compel action to do something about it. I hope to remind my colleagues every day that we work for those Americans who have been left behind, but who want to work.
“Today I call on my fellow Americans to send me your resume and your story to resumesforAmerica@mail.house.govThis e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . If you are out of work, send me your resume and story so that I can use it to remind our government of the need to act.
“Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said that America has issued a bad check, that it has come back marked insufficient funds….But the vault of opportunity of this nation is not bankrupt.
“Again, Mr. Speaker, sending a resume to me will not put you first in line for any job. But it will put you front and center to remind your government that so many Americans are in need, and that we must create jobs.
“Thank you, Mr. Speaker.”
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I think we need to start adding more names to the enemies list. Start thinking of the traitors in Congress who you want on there, and I will start to take them apart piece by piece. We need to put some pressure on people. Not that we arn’t already, but not enough IMOP.
A little investigation and fact finding goes along ways.
Mark,
Where do I add names at ?
Debbie From Philadelphia
Add the names above int the “Know Your Enemies” section above. If your thinking about adding a bunch of Hollywood celebrities names it might be better to attack them as a group instead. I can relate to what your talking about when it comes to these people hiding money overseas. These people are as guilty as sin when it comes to this.
Thanks
Better yet Debbie, just add your ideas or names right here in the think tank. We will take it from there.
Kind regards,
I think we need to start adding more names to the enemies list. Start thinking of the traitors in Congress who you want on there, and I will start to take them apart piece by piece. We need to put some pressure on people. Not that we arn’t already, but not enough IMOP.
A little investigation and fact finding goes along ways.
Mark,
Where do I add names at ?
Debbie From Philadelphia
Add the names above int the “Know Your Enemies” section above. If your thinking about adding a bunch of Hollywood celebrities names it might be better to attack them as a group instead. I can relate to what your talking about when it comes to these people hiding money overseas. These people are as guilty as sin when it comes to this.
Thanks
Better yet Debbie, just add your ideas or names right here in the think tank. We will take it from there.
Kind regards,
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Henry and friends,
Have been very interested in your site for quite a while now, and really applaud your efforts to move forward and demand change. I’m as passionate as most of you, read alot about the new world order and the grand plan to eliminate millions, and can’t believe we haven’t united yet. I agree with
Gordon and James, (exposing the criminals), but believe it’s time to find a way to scare the shit out of at least one powermonger, show them we don’t believe their bull, at all. May scare a few more, in turn. Don’t know how much longer we can actually just talk, write and wait.
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org, wikipedia, the internet, are all great places to start to find the dirt on “officials”
Ready-
429,000 fewer jobs than needed during November and December. Probably be about six years before there will be enough jobs to even things out to pre-depression levels. I don’t think that it will be to much longer before you start to see Americans take Washington apart. Google the words ” Militia’s in the United States” and well, we will just leave it at that.
Or think of it this way, 26.5 million unemployed/underemployed and only 3.5 million jobs available. 8 people for every 1 job. The public will start to understand, very clearly soon, how they have been burned by the corporate mafia.
Henry and friends,
Have been very interested in your site for quite a while now, and really applaud your efforts to move forward and demand change. I’m as passionate as most of you, read alot about the new world order and the grand plan to eliminate millions, and can’t believe we haven’t united yet. I agree with
Gordon and James, (exposing the criminals), but believe it’s time to find a way to scare the shit out of at least one powermonger, show them we don’t believe their bull, at all. May scare a few more, in turn. Don’t know how much longer we can actually just talk, write and wait.
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org, wikipedia, the internet, are all great places to start to find the dirt on “officials”
Ready-
429,000 fewer jobs than needed during November and December. Probably be about six years before there will be enough jobs to even things out to pre-depression levels. I don’t think that it will be to much longer before you start to see Americans take Washington apart. Google the words ” Militia’s in the United States” and well, we will just leave it at that.
Or think of it this way, 26.5 million unemployed/underemployed and only 3.5 million jobs available. 8 people for every 1 job. The public will start to understand, very clearly soon, how they have been burned by the corporate mafia.
A job application asks for your name, address, phone number, date of birth – then it gets trashed. Some employers, to be on the safe side, will check your credit too. Do you know why older Americans are being targeted? Because we have the most to be taken away. After we all are left broke, they will target the next group of Americans, and then the next. The “loot” will become smaller and smaller, but its still “loot.” How can we put up a fight for our rights when we have nothing? Are federal workers next? Are they going to lose their jobs when their credit becomes less than stellar? Suddenly, after years of working hard and abiding by the laws, we are being treated as borderline criminals or worse. How many of us have “given up looking for employment” like the media is portraying. Giving up looking for a job never entered my mind – glad to know these people can tell us what we are doing… especially after we have worked hard for decades to remain productive members of society and prepare ourselves for retirement. Now look. Robbed and kicked to the curb.
Before anything will change, we must make it intolerable for everybody. How do we do that? Especially when we are being attacked and robbed piece by piece.
A job application asks for your name, address, phone number, date of birth – then it gets trashed. Some employers, to be on the safe side, will check your credit too. Do you know why older Americans are being targeted? Because we have the most to be taken away. After we all are left broke, they will target the next group of Americans, and then the next. The “loot” will become smaller and smaller, but its still “loot.” How can we put up a fight for our rights when we have nothing? Are federal workers next? Are they going to lose their jobs when their credit becomes less than stellar? Suddenly, after years of working hard and abiding by the laws, we are being treated as borderline criminals or worse. How many of us have “given up looking for employment” like the media is portraying. Giving up looking for a job never entered my mind – glad to know these people can tell us what we are doing… especially after we have worked hard for decades to remain productive members of society and prepare ourselves for retirement. Now look. Robbed and kicked to the curb.
Before anything will change, we must make it intolerable for everybody. How do we do that? Especially when we are being attacked and robbed piece by piece.
Unite, holler like hell, get in their face, expose them for what they are and don’t stop until the public takes notice and thinks hey wait a minute is this going to happen to me? You have to fight corruption with any and every means possible where there is a will there is a way educate yourself to who is doing what when and where and expose them.
Unite, holler like hell, get in their face, expose them for what they are and don’t stop until the public takes notice and thinks hey wait a minute is this going to happen to me? You have to fight corruption with any and every means possible where there is a will there is a way educate yourself to who is doing what when and where and expose them.
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Posts: 25 Just thought I’d post a topic on this, since I think it’s a lot more than other press have done (that I’m aware of).
The Philly Inquirer had a Front Page story today about the unemployed. The writer will be doing a series called “60 Profiles in 60 Days.”
Please check the News for “Stuck Out in the Cold.”
January 9, 2011 at 9:53 PM
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Posts: 25 Just thought I’d post a topic on this, since I think it’s a lot more than other press have done (that I’m aware of).
The Philly Inquirer had a Front Page story today about the unemployed. The writer will be doing a series called “60 Profiles in 60 Days.”
Please check the News for “Stuck Out in the Cold.”
January 9, 2011 at 9:53 PM
Stuck Out in the Cold–Ranks of Long-Term Jobless Are Growing
Posted by Jane on January 9, 2011 at 1:04 PM comments (0)
The articles below are on the Front Page of the Philadelphia Inquirer today.
The writer, Jane M. VonBergen, will be doing “60 Profiles in 60 Days,” profiles of long-term unemployed. She has written several article about the long-term unemployed.
The first link is the main article (3 pages):
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_p…
Debbie from Philadelphia
Tried that link and it didn’t work. This seems to work fine
http://unemployedworkersactiongroup.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/5800512-stuck-out-in-the-cold-ranks-of-long-term-jobless-are-growing
Stuck Out in the Cold–Ranks of Long-Term Jobless Are Growing
Posted by Jane on January 9, 2011 at 1:04 PM comments (0)
The articles below are on the Front Page of the Philadelphia Inquirer today.
The writer, Jane M. VonBergen, will be doing “60 Profiles in 60 Days,” profiles of long-term unemployed. She has written several article about the long-term unemployed.
The first link is the main article (3 pages):
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_p…
Debbie from Philadelphia
Tried that link and it didn’t work. This seems to work fine
http://unemployedworkersactiongroup.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/5800512-stuck-out-in-the-cold-ranks-of-long-term-jobless-are-growing
The crisis that is coming to this country. We, as 99ers, are part of the initial destruction of this republic. Are rights, like those of our fellow country men, are being eliminated. The government running this country is a tyrannical government. It is time that we must all consider what is most important to ourselves, our families, and our children. Our constitutional rights are being threaded upon. We must choose between life and freedom. If one must be lost, which is the one worth saving. We are still able to embrace our 2nd amendment rights. With this we are entitled to much more. Use the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th amendment rights for how our forefathers gave us to protect us from a tyrannical government. I ask you, my brothers and sisters, are you going to sit back and let this once great nation fall into the hands of such a government. Think hard on this. Remember how you are treated 99ers. May whatever God you place your trust in watch over you and protect from the ills of this tyranny.
Important for you all to know, this is. Our 2nd amendment rights are intact. However, the government has another plan. No, they aren’t really limiting the production of firearms. Things are mostly normal in that regard. What is happening is a reduction in ammunition manufacturing. What good is a firearm when no one has ammunition. I will continue to post more information as I encounter it. Rest assured, brothers and sisters, there are enough true patriots to change this tyrannical government. I ask not for your support now, just when the time comes. May your God of choice protect you and watch those you care about.
I wish I could elaborate more, but doing even the little I am doing now, puts me in jeopardy of big brother. Best wishes and god speed.
The crisis that is coming to this country. We, as 99ers, are part of the initial destruction of this republic. Are rights, like those of our fellow country men, are being eliminated. The government running this country is a tyrannical government. It is time that we must all consider what is most important to ourselves, our families, and our children. Our constitutional rights are being threaded upon. We must choose between life and freedom. If one must be lost, which is the one worth saving. We are still able to embrace our 2nd amendment rights. With this we are entitled to much more. Use the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th amendment rights for how our forefathers gave us to protect us from a tyrannical government. I ask you, my brothers and sisters, are you going to sit back and let this once great nation fall into the hands of such a government. Think hard on this. Remember how you are treated 99ers. May whatever God you place your trust in watch over you and protect from the ills of this tyranny.
Important for you all to know, this is. Our 2nd amendment rights are intact. However, the government has another plan. No, they aren’t really limiting the production of firearms. Things are mostly normal in that regard. What is happening is a reduction in ammunition manufacturing. What good is a firearm when no one has ammunition. I will continue to post more information as I encounter it. Rest assured, brothers and sisters, there are enough true patriots to change this tyrannical government. I ask not for your support now, just when the time comes. May your God of choice protect you and watch those you care about.
I wish I could elaborate more, but doing even the little I am doing now, puts me in jeopardy of big brother. Best wishes and god speed.
Seems we are now known! and not allowed on some sites, even with an alias . the second I post this site
from the trenches world report.com my posts seem to disappear. I began posting back when Henry was at the other site and recall posts from Barbara, I am very much on board, waiting for the call to action!
also to all can you please visit the entrepreneur’s page on this site, Henry as usual Thank you.
Eli
Seems we are now known! and not allowed on some sites, even with an alias . the second I post this site
from the trenches world report.com my posts seem to disappear. I began posting back when Henry was at the other site and recall posts from Barbara, I am very much on board, waiting for the call to action!
also to all can you please visit the entrepreneur’s page on this site, Henry as usual Thank you.
Eli
Found this article on another site, We are up against more than just the politicians.
Hollywood Celebrities Betray 99ers – Tier 5 Unemployment Now
By advocating and donating to foreign charities, shameless self-promoting Hollywood celebrities are betraying 99ers and saving on taxes in the process.
By emphasizing the need of foreigners, Hollywood celebrities are taking the focus off of the starvation and homelessness faced by all 99ers across America. Notice that the foreign charity advertising images always show children starving in Third World countries. Where are the images of the starving children of 99ers in America?
By “donating” money to foreign charities (i.e. tax-shelters), some Hollywood celebrities are cheating the IRS out of millions of tax dollars per year. Remember, wealth in the United States is concentrated in the bank accounts of a small number of extremely affluent people. A few foreign “donations” by that group can seriously upset the economic balance in America.
To add insult to injury, many Hollywood celebrities take American money and use it to live in foreign countries.
Boycott any Hollywood celebrities who advocate and/or donate to foreign charities. This small group of (undeservedly) influential people is directly contributing to the destruction of the American economy, and assisting in the cover-up of the genocide of 99ers.
Keep the cash in America and use it to fund a Tier 5 Unemployment Benefits extension.
Pastor Dinary
Found this article on another site, We are up against more than just the politicians.
Hollywood Celebrities Betray 99ers – Tier 5 Unemployment Now
By advocating and donating to foreign charities, shameless self-promoting Hollywood celebrities are betraying 99ers and saving on taxes in the process.
By emphasizing the need of foreigners, Hollywood celebrities are taking the focus off of the starvation and homelessness faced by all 99ers across America. Notice that the foreign charity advertising images always show children starving in Third World countries. Where are the images of the starving children of 99ers in America?
By “donating” money to foreign charities (i.e. tax-shelters), some Hollywood celebrities are cheating the IRS out of millions of tax dollars per year. Remember, wealth in the United States is concentrated in the bank accounts of a small number of extremely affluent people. A few foreign “donations” by that group can seriously upset the economic balance in America.
To add insult to injury, many Hollywood celebrities take American money and use it to live in foreign countries.
Boycott any Hollywood celebrities who advocate and/or donate to foreign charities. This small group of (undeservedly) influential people is directly contributing to the destruction of the American economy, and assisting in the cover-up of the genocide of 99ers.
Keep the cash in America and use it to fund a Tier 5 Unemployment Benefits extension.
Pastor Dinary
Henry, I have sent an e mail to ( feedamerica.org ) and asked that they acknowledge our situation regarding us 99ers asked that they post my story and so many of us 99ers stories and ask they bring to light that our children are also going hungry! some of us do not meet the food stamp income guidelines most of us own a home and are barely getting by on one income. i am hoping that they post the email or in some way mention us 99ers on their site.
Eli,
Henry, I have sent an e mail to ( feedamerica.org ) and asked that they acknowledge our situation regarding us 99ers asked that they post my story and so many of us 99ers stories and ask they bring to light that our children are also going hungry! some of us do not meet the food stamp income guidelines most of us own a home and are barely getting by on one income. i am hoping that they post the email or in some way mention us 99ers on their site.
Eli,
David Arquette’s got a lot going on — one of his biggest passions is his work with Feeding America, the country’s leading charity for domestic hunger relief. Arquette is the chairman of the organization’s Entertainment Council.
lets all e mail them and David,
Eli
David Arquette’s got a lot going on — one of his biggest passions is his work with Feeding America, the country’s leading charity for domestic hunger relief. Arquette is the chairman of the organization’s Entertainment Council.
lets all e mail them and David,
Eli
Henry,
I sent you an e-mail with an article and suggestions let me know what you think.
Henry,
I sent you an e-mail with an article and suggestions let me know what you think.
HELLO ALL ! PLEASE ! I need your opinion, I have just filled out an application for employment. i decided to copy and paste this portion of the all to familiar application process!! by all means I am not at all worried of any background check pertaining to any convictions DMV records drug testing or physical eval!
what bothers the crap out of me is this continuous bullshit ! about a credit check !!!!!! really!
my credit is shot! late on every single bill! student loans now in default! medical bills, my credit report makes me look like a complete looser!!! in serious debt So please tell me do I even have a shot? please pleas your opinion!! I am crying right now I hate this!!!!!
Should a search of public records (including records documenting an arrest, indictment, conviction, initials
civil judicial action, tax lien or outstanding judgment) be conducted by internal personnel employed by (BLANK ) ,I am entitled to copies of any such public records obtained by (BLANK) unless I mark the check box below. If Iam not hired as aresult of such information,
I am entitled to a copy of any such records even though I have checked the box below.
Eli,
HELLO ALL ! PLEASE ! I need your opinion, I have just filled out an application for employment. i decided to copy and paste this portion of the all to familiar application process!! by all means I am not at all worried of any background check pertaining to any convictions DMV records drug testing or physical eval!
what bothers the crap out of me is this continuous bullshit ! about a credit check !!!!!! really!
my credit is shot! late on every single bill! student loans now in default! medical bills, my credit report makes me look like a complete looser!!! in serious debt So please tell me do I even have a shot? please pleas your opinion!! I am crying right now I hate this!!!!!
Should a search of public records (including records documenting an arrest, indictment, conviction, initials
civil judicial action, tax lien or outstanding judgment) be conducted by internal personnel employed by (BLANK ) ,I am entitled to copies of any such public records obtained by (BLANK) unless I mark the check box below. If Iam not hired as aresult of such information,
I am entitled to a copy of any such records even though I have checked the box below.
Eli,
Job less talk radio on LIVE ! Call-in Number: (347) 857-2884 twelve pm pacific!!!!!BlogTalkRadio.com. be sure to mention TTWR! if you call
Eli,
Job less talk radio on LIVE ! Call-in Number: (347) 857-2884 twelve pm pacific!!!!!BlogTalkRadio.com. be sure to mention TTWR! if you call
Eli,
Henry,
If we had some sort of word document, maybe a “Mission Statement” or something
to be used as a template, I would gladly print, copy and hand them out as far as I could
reach to get the word out to as many as possible to let them know of and join our cause
at least for more recognition. If this same “Mission Statement” was plastered all across the
Country it might get more people aware of the seriousness of our plight. There are so
very many that have no internet or are aware of this sight. Do we already have something
such as this? Just a thought. I realize we need to act quickly.
I have added a Flyer page that can be highlighted and copied to be printed. Pass them out or post them where ever you think might do the most good. Unemployment offices, food stamp offices, to name a few.
Already underway. Thank you Henry.
Once again, We Will NOT Go Quietly!!!
God Bless the 99er’s.
Henry,
If we had some sort of word document, maybe a “Mission Statement” or something
to be used as a template, I would gladly print, copy and hand them out as far as I could
reach to get the word out to as many as possible to let them know of and join our cause
at least for more recognition. If this same “Mission Statement” was plastered all across the
Country it might get more people aware of the seriousness of our plight. There are so
very many that have no internet or are aware of this sight. Do we already have something
such as this? Just a thought. I realize we need to act quickly.
I have added a Flyer page that can be highlighted and copied to be printed. Pass them out or post them where ever you think might do the most good. Unemployment offices, food stamp offices, to name a few.
Already underway. Thank you Henry.
Once again, We Will NOT Go Quietly!!!
God Bless the 99er’s.
ease send me new stuff i see old thinks on here or are we done if so we are going to die please dont stop
Darius,
The new information is on the front page.
ease send me new stuff i see old thinks on here or are we done if so we are going to die please dont stop
Darius,
The new information is on the front page.
Over the past several months I’ve joined or subscribed to many websites similar to From The Trenches. I’ve written dozens of emails and made as many calls to my so-called representatives in DC and locally. A lot of F’n good it did. After 26 months of joblessness, yesterday, thanks to the efforts of several friends, I was made an offer and accepted a position in my field. Although I had to take a 35% cut in salary (after 27 years of experience), I am finally have a place to go M-F mornings.
However, the reason I’m posting here is to say what all of you already know: the only way these criminals in DC and elsewhere will listen to us, is to take a cue from 1960’s America and 2011 Egypt. In addition to constant local demonstrations, we need to make our presence in Washington, DC just as constant. Those in DC, including Prez Obama, are representing the wealthy people and large corporations (oh, wait. Now they are people, too.) who not only finance their campaigns, but have turned OUR country into a CORPORATIST NATION. We MUST remind these people in Washington WHO THEY ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED TO REPRESENT—WE THE FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE!!! The only way they’ll get it is if they see us rally in their front yard…and often.
I’m one of the few lucky people who have been jobless for more than two years who has found a REAL job. However, that DOES NOT mean I’m finished demonstrating, organizing rallies or remaining active in political organizations and third parties like: Democracy For America or The American 99ers Union. Once they find a job, too many Americans become indifferent to the plight of the many millions of American Citizens who continue to need money coming in to feed their children, themselves, pay the rent or mortgage and even keep their cars.
I always have, and will continue to actively remind the politicians that: 1. They represent the citizens of the USA; 2. WE ARE THEIR BOSSES; we pay their bills, purchase their heathcare, food, transportation and housing for them and their families. 3. They are OUR equals (not the other way around), and should receive the same benefits they do…certainly when it has been the ingnorant and selfish Domestic and Foreign Policy decisions over the past forty or so years which have caused the crisis millions of Americans are now suffering though.
Sorry for the rant, but I lived thru the countless lies and stupid decisions of our so-called leaders since LBJ took office in 1963. I just hope that my post somehow makes a difference in some peoples attitudes.
Marty
Over the past several months I’ve joined or subscribed to many websites similar to From The Trenches. I’ve written dozens of emails and made as many calls to my so-called representatives in DC and locally. A lot of F’n good it did. After 26 months of joblessness, yesterday, thanks to the efforts of several friends, I was made an offer and accepted a position in my field. Although I had to take a 35% cut in salary (after 27 years of experience), I am finally have a place to go M-F mornings.
However, the reason I’m posting here is to say what all of you already know: the only way these criminals in DC and elsewhere will listen to us, is to take a cue from 1960’s America and 2011 Egypt. In addition to constant local demonstrations, we need to make our presence in Washington, DC just as constant. Those in DC, including Prez Obama, are representing the wealthy people and large corporations (oh, wait. Now they are people, too.) who not only finance their campaigns, but have turned OUR country into a CORPORATIST NATION. We MUST remind these people in Washington WHO THEY ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED TO REPRESENT—WE THE FLESH AND BLOOD PEOPLE!!! The only way they’ll get it is if they see us rally in their front yard…and often.
I’m one of the few lucky people who have been jobless for more than two years who has found a REAL job. However, that DOES NOT mean I’m finished demonstrating, organizing rallies or remaining active in political organizations and third parties like: Democracy For America or The American 99ers Union. Once they find a job, too many Americans become indifferent to the plight of the many millions of American Citizens who continue to need money coming in to feed their children, themselves, pay the rent or mortgage and even keep their cars.
I always have, and will continue to actively remind the politicians that: 1. They represent the citizens of the USA; 2. WE ARE THEIR BOSSES; we pay their bills, purchase their heathcare, food, transportation and housing for them and their families. 3. They are OUR equals (not the other way around), and should receive the same benefits they do…certainly when it has been the ingnorant and selfish Domestic and Foreign Policy decisions over the past forty or so years which have caused the crisis millions of Americans are now suffering though.
Sorry for the rant, but I lived thru the countless lies and stupid decisions of our so-called leaders since LBJ took office in 1963. I just hope that my post somehow makes a difference in some peoples attitudes.
Marty
Th republicans are going to wish they hadn’t discounted the millions of 99ers when the November elections roll around. You don’t soon forget who caused you to go hungry, lose your home, and your dignity when it comes time to vote their collective backsides out of office
Th republicans are going to wish they hadn’t discounted the millions of 99ers when the November elections roll around. You don’t soon forget who caused you to go hungry, lose your home, and your dignity when it comes time to vote their collective backsides out of office
I too have heard over and over that we need to organize a march and I agree. I have no idea how to go about this, we need to do this. If someone(s) could help let’s do it, it’s way over due. Look at wisconsin. This could be at a national or local level. Does anyone know where to start?????????????
I too have heard over and over that we need to organize a march and I agree. I have no idea how to go about this, we need to do this. If someone(s) could help let’s do it, it’s way over due. Look at wisconsin. This could be at a national or local level. Does anyone know where to start?????????????
The following is from a Feb 18th post, “Advocates continue to push for 99er unemployment extension after setback” by Naomi Cohn of the examiner:
“NEW NOTE TO READERS. A TELEVISION REPORTER WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW AN UNEMPLOYED WOMAN AGE 50 TO 62 WHO WORKED SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE SAME COMPANY. IF YOU FIT THIS CATEGORY AND ARE WILLING TO APPEAR ON CAMERA, PLEASE CONTACT NAOMI COHN AT NaomiCohn@gmail.com. THANK YOU.”
The following is from a Feb 18th post, “Advocates continue to push for 99er unemployment extension after setback” by Naomi Cohn of the examiner:
“NEW NOTE TO READERS. A TELEVISION REPORTER WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW AN UNEMPLOYED WOMAN AGE 50 TO 62 WHO WORKED SEVERAL YEARS FOR THE SAME COMPANY. IF YOU FIT THIS CATEGORY AND ARE WILLING TO APPEAR ON CAMERA, PLEASE CONTACT NAOMI COHN AT NaomiCohn@gmail.com. THANK YOU.”
My suggestion is to call the speaker of the house Eric Cantor (during business hours) and other republican leaders. Tell them that the solution to paying for unemployment is to take a 10% pay cut and place the money into an account for the unemployed, because the unemployed have taken a 75%-100% pay cut; case is solved. I have called the speaker, Eric Cantor and Scott Brown and spoke to whoever was working the phone lines. I was told that the message would be passed to them. Also, keep emailing the speaker of the house; you will receive an email stating that your email has been received. I hope this information is helpful.
My suggestion is to call the speaker of the house Eric Cantor (during business hours) and other republican leaders. Tell them that the solution to paying for unemployment is to take a 10% pay cut and place the money into an account for the unemployed, because the unemployed have taken a 75%-100% pay cut; case is solved. I have called the speaker, Eric Cantor and Scott Brown and spoke to whoever was working the phone lines. I was told that the message would be passed to them. Also, keep emailing the speaker of the house; you will receive an email stating that your email has been received. I hope this information is helpful.
Correction: John Boehner is the Epeaker of the House, Eric Cantor is the Majority Leader.
Speaker of the House: John Boehner.
Correction: John Boehner is the Epeaker of the House, Eric Cantor is the Majority Leader.
Speaker of the House: John Boehner.
OK we are in this mess because of our elected officials. the only way the get booted out of office is if the do something inappropriate sexually or racial. They need to be held countable and prosecuted for making laws and bills that benefit big business and hurt the people and/or the environment like FRACKING For Natural Gas eg. They need their terms limited to 6 to 8 years. No Cars, Trimmed expense accounts, they need to be kept modest and be put on notice they REPRESENT the people of the United States not Businesses or Special Interests or Lobbyists. They need to be held to a higher standard of honesty and trust and have a CODE OF ETHICS with NO LOOPHOLES! NO MORE CAREER POLITICIANS WITH HUGE PAY SCALES AND KICK BACKS. CIVIL SERVENTS GET MODEST PAY NOT EXUBERANT PAY!!!!!!
Oh I forgot Time to do away with political parties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK we are in this mess because of our elected officials. the only way the get booted out of office is if the do something inappropriate sexually or racial. They need to be held countable and prosecuted for making laws and bills that benefit big business and hurt the people and/or the environment like FRACKING For Natural Gas eg. They need their terms limited to 6 to 8 years. No Cars, Trimmed expense accounts, they need to be kept modest and be put on notice they REPRESENT the people of the United States not Businesses or Special Interests or Lobbyists. They need to be held to a higher standard of honesty and trust and have a CODE OF ETHICS with NO LOOPHOLES! NO MORE CAREER POLITICIANS WITH HUGE PAY SCALES AND KICK BACKS. CIVIL SERVENTS GET MODEST PAY NOT EXUBERANT PAY!!!!!!
Oh I forgot Time to do away with political parties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we need to march on april 2 anyone in washington state I would love to join you
we need to march on april 2 anyone in washington state I would love to join you
We are in this mess because of our elected officials. It makes me angry that they think they are doing such a great job and that everyone else should suffer. The sheeple need to wake up and realize that they are laughing at us (especially the TEA PARTY). I used to vote during every election. I have not voted now in the last few elections. Kerry/Bush was about all I could take, I haven’t voted since. I didn’t like Obama so I obviously didn’t vote for him. We have become complacent and pardon the cliche: dumbed down. I believe politicians are happy with this. We believe their lies and sit and watch our country fall apart and just eat bad food and watch more Survivor and FOX news. We have become mindless drones/slaves, becoming less and less in control of our own lives. It’s time for change! Real change!
We are in this mess because of our elected officials. It makes me angry that they think they are doing such a great job and that everyone else should suffer. The sheeple need to wake up and realize that they are laughing at us (especially the TEA PARTY). I used to vote during every election. I have not voted now in the last few elections. Kerry/Bush was about all I could take, I haven’t voted since. I didn’t like Obama so I obviously didn’t vote for him. We have become complacent and pardon the cliche: dumbed down. I believe politicians are happy with this. We believe their lies and sit and watch our country fall apart and just eat bad food and watch more Survivor and FOX news. We have become mindless drones/slaves, becoming less and less in control of our own lives. It’s time for change! Real change!
Henry — I don’t know if we could do something like this but I wanted to run this by you. They always have websites to help victims of war, hunger, disasters etc. What is happening in the United States is a disaster, a man made disaster. Why can’t we set up some sort of website to accept donations from the American people? We could say help the U.S. or Japan. Not exactly that way but you know what I mean. If we get some money built up we could do so much more. If this is dumb please remove it so no one else will see it.
We are raising a lot of money for Japan. We should be raising even more for the American people.
Henry — I don’t know if we could do something like this but I wanted to run this by you. They always have websites to help victims of war, hunger, disasters etc. What is happening in the United States is a disaster, a man made disaster. Why can’t we set up some sort of website to accept donations from the American people? We could say help the U.S. or Japan. Not exactly that way but you know what I mean. If we get some money built up we could do so much more. If this is dumb please remove it so no one else will see it.
We are raising a lot of money for Japan. We should be raising even more for the American people.
My Idea is fairly simple, I would like to request that every 99er or unemployed person please print out their rejection emails and somehow get them to your local representatives office for mayday May 1st 2011, show them we are NOT lazy people with our hands out, show them we are applying time and time again for every opening we can find and yet still be passed aside, show them there still is a crisis, ask them where these so-called jobs they are touting are? remind them that the only reason layoff numbers and unemployment are dropping is because there are no more workers left to lay off and we are not counted as ” unemployed ” since we do not receive benefits, we can’t continue to let them off the hook when they toss us a scrap….we are the people, we deserve much better!
My Idea is fairly simple, I would like to request that every 99er or unemployed person please print out their rejection emails and somehow get them to your local representatives office for mayday May 1st 2011, show them we are NOT lazy people with our hands out, show them we are applying time and time again for every opening we can find and yet still be passed aside, show them there still is a crisis, ask them where these so-called jobs they are touting are? remind them that the only reason layoff numbers and unemployment are dropping is because there are no more workers left to lay off and we are not counted as ” unemployed ” since we do not receive benefits, we can’t continue to let them off the hook when they toss us a scrap….we are the people, we deserve much better!
I think we ought to pick a weekend and shut our TV’s off. How much longer are we going to let the media feed us all this bullshit? They are acting like we don’t exsist. Pick a weekend and turn the propaganda off. Like maybe Memorial weekend. 8 days from now. The hell with these clowns.
They aren’t even talking about how we have an illegal for president.
I think we ought to pick a weekend and shut our TV’s off. How much longer are we going to let the media feed us all this bullshit? They are acting like we don’t exsist. Pick a weekend and turn the propaganda off. Like maybe Memorial weekend. 8 days from now. The hell with these clowns.
They aren’t even talking about how we have an illegal for president.
Work is the answer labor in highway development threw the ground 30 feet down at a 45 degree angle outward placing tens of thousands of truckers to work immediately giving the highway a face-lift there would be no need for bridges that fall no more animals would be senselessly murdered no more children slaughtered for nothing the desighn would have 300 foot sections with hood’s that reflect light to the glass walls that would have the light from the surface on them you would not even know you where threw the ground the above ground could be also used for the current trafic the air would be sucked threw the ground cleaning it with water in essence you would have five time the space threw the ground and utilizing everything currently that you have above the ground also. The design would be like the pyramids of Egypt only in 300 feet sections the roofs would reflect light to the walls of glass fixing every polluted city on earth! once they where pressurized air could be pushed threw them just like you see at banks the tube that gives you cash! the air would also stop any animal from being senselessly murdered from cars this design could also be used for trains so that people do not have to stop and wait for them or get ran over by them also! when they come to a cross section the air would regulate the traffic so that no one would ever wreck! like the turn around wise men made above ground only threw it! you might ask how would it protect the above part OK the air wall would be pushing it out as well in essence making it impossible for anyone to go threw it cleaning not only the air threw the ground but also the air we breath water would be used under it all also if there was ever and earth quake it would push they system up above the ground with the 45 degree angle system moving traffic aside while it rose and temporarily shutting down the system until it was safe to reseed back into itself! this design would also repair itself by having ejecting hollow walls that are filled with water for now using a hydrological design for the first one ‘Placing every able bodied man woman and even children to work giving also the oligarchs a chance to prove themselves to be ‘Americans as this would cost allot of money to make the resources that it gave though would out way the cost as everything could be used threw the ground that you take! ‘Giving america a new deal like the rail did in the 20’s
‘Amen ‘ I will help with the design, ‘Police would than not be asked to police the highways but to guard the system from vandals!
Work is the answer labor in highway development threw the ground 30 feet down at a 45 degree angle outward placing tens of thousands of truckers to work immediately giving the highway a face-lift there would be no need for bridges that fall no more animals would be senselessly murdered no more children slaughtered for nothing the desighn would have 300 foot sections with hood’s that reflect light to the glass walls that would have the light from the surface on them you would not even know you where threw the ground the above ground could be also used for the current trafic the air would be sucked threw the ground cleaning it with water in essence you would have five time the space threw the ground and utilizing everything currently that you have above the ground also. The design would be like the pyramids of Egypt only in 300 feet sections the roofs would reflect light to the walls of glass fixing every polluted city on earth! once they where pressurized air could be pushed threw them just like you see at banks the tube that gives you cash! the air would also stop any animal from being senselessly murdered from cars this design could also be used for trains so that people do not have to stop and wait for them or get ran over by them also! when they come to a cross section the air would regulate the traffic so that no one would ever wreck! like the turn around wise men made above ground only threw it! you might ask how would it protect the above part OK the air wall would be pushing it out as well in essence making it impossible for anyone to go threw it cleaning not only the air threw the ground but also the air we breath water would be used under it all also if there was ever and earth quake it would push they system up above the ground with the 45 degree angle system moving traffic aside while it rose and temporarily shutting down the system until it was safe to reseed back into itself! this design would also repair itself by having ejecting hollow walls that are filled with water for now using a hydrological design for the first one ‘Placing every able bodied man woman and even children to work giving also the oligarchs a chance to prove themselves to be ‘Americans as this would cost allot of money to make the resources that it gave though would out way the cost as everything could be used threw the ground that you take! ‘Giving america a new deal like the rail did in the 20’s
‘Amen ‘ I will help with the design, ‘Police would than not be asked to police the highways but to guard the system from vandals!
How would you power such a thing ? that is the million dollar question SOLAR light reflectors also water could be sent to every city state and town farmers would not wonder when it was going to rain and this thing could power every city state and town in america with just 100.000.00 sections made! and once you seen the power it generated all nuclear power plants would become obsolete!
How would you power such a thing ? that is the million dollar question SOLAR light reflectors also water could be sent to every city state and town farmers would not wonder when it was going to rain and this thing could power every city state and town in america with just 100.000.00 sections made! and once you seen the power it generated all nuclear power plants would become obsolete!
The air that it pushed threw itself would drive generators also that would in essence replace every bank of power times the tenth power!
The air that it pushed threw itself would drive generators also that would in essence replace every bank of power times the tenth power!
The philosopher and economist John Rawls had the motto, “Justice is fairness”. Thats one of my grips against government. I got real lucky three years ago when I ended up falling into the job i have now. The company I work for now needed a butcher right then and my own business was on its very last leg. It was perfect timing. I realize most people aren’t that lucky, especially at my age, in this day in age. Now, my salery is 35k a year, no insurance, no retirement. Oh, the company used to have those benefits, but they eroded away over the years. My salery is exactly the median salery of the people who are fortunate enough to have jobs, which means, more people earn what i make than any other level of pay.
Your congressman earns 178k a year, has health benefits, an extremely nice retirement package, an expense account, an office complete with aides and so forth. He is allowed to send out mail free of charge, he can violate all but the most major of crimes while on his way to congress or in congress.I get a speeding ticket on my way to work, its like 175 bucks. Your “elected offical” doesnt have to pay into social security, which is like 7 percent of my gross pay. But guarrantted, once he leaves office, he will try to get a job in the private sector, pay into social security long enough to double dip, or draw SSI and his government pension.
A friend and co worker recently summed up my feelings for me. He said, “you feel like you are taking care of everyone and no one is watching out for you.” Thats exactly how I feel about it. Here in wisconsin, there was a real moe by the state government to break the govt employee unions.I sympathise with the workers right to collectiely bargain but thats about it. These guys got it real good, and i am paying for it. (welcome to what the private sector has been goingf through for the past 30 years guys!!!!) Who’s looking out for me? Not my government, thats for damn sure. They take your money, talk to you like you’re stupid and lazy, then act like you’re garbage if you want assistance, especially if you are a white male!!! (i am done being potically correct too at this point).
This site is for ideas, you want justice, you want fairness? Here’s an idea. A national referendum for one) no government employee or elected offical can earn more than 10 percent over the median (not average) wage of the people of the United States. At this point in time, that would be 38,500 a year. They hae to pay their own health insurance, use their own cars, buy their own gas, pay for their own postage except for government business, which does not include postage for campaigning or fund raising. Furthermore, make them pay into social security and end their retirement package. Make corporate donations to political canadates or political parties not only taxable, but illegal, punishable by time in a maximum security prison in general population.(no more of these country club prisons niether. Does anyone on this site really think if you got sentenced to prison, you’d be going to one of those country club prisons!!).
Two) Pass a special terriff on goods coming into the United States called the “labor value added tax”. What ever goods are coming into the United States, especially from third world countries, to be sold at places like Walmart or Family Dollar, get taxed at what ever the difference of the cost of labor is between that same good being made in say china as opposed to the cost of labor here in the united States. There’s your new tax revenue folks. The idea is to end the unfair advantage these countries like china have because of cheap labor costs (screwing their workers and ours) in trade and two, so american manufactures lose the incentive to move overseas.
three) Pass a real wage law. This is for companies like Walmart. For each and every employee you have, the hourly minimum wage you have goes up 5 cents above the minumum wage. Here in Wisconsin, the minimum wage is 6.50 hour. Thus the minimum wage of the first person the Mom and Pop store has to pay is 6.50 an hour, If they had 10 employees, it becomes 7.00 an hour. if they had a hundren, it becomes 11.50 an hour, you can figure what all these big corporations with their thousands of employees would have to pay, and how it would cut into the CEO’s salery and benefit package. The idea is to introduce more equity into the American economy. Theres a web site called the http://www.lcurve.com, which brings to light the issue I am talking about. He starts out with a football field. One on side is the stack of hundren dollar bills equal to the poorest person in America’s income, then as we move down the football field, the stacks grow larger. When we pass the 50 yard line, or the midean, the stack of hundren dollar bills is about an inch tall. When we get to the other end, the stack is like 30 miles tall, equal to the richest man in America’s income(Bill Gates). The United States of all the industrialized nations has the greatest inequities of wealth. THIS IS OUTRAGIOUS!!!! The salery of CEO’s and the elites have grown over 70 times of what they were in 1970, Has yours? I tell you now to pay real close attention to the economies of countries in Africa or south east asia folks, They are your future, or the future of your children and grand children if we don’t change currant trends now. Again, “Justice is fairness.”
four) end prohibition on marawhana, prostitution, and gambling. End this crusade against obsessity, tobacco,and guns. Let gays marry and keep the right for women to have abortions. I dont condone any of these actions and i am not particularly against any of them either. but its a big waste of time to keep arguing about them and trying to enforce them. Think of all the money spent on law enforcement, court time, time law makers spend arguing for or against….and they divert our attention from real issues, like the war in iraq, like the inequities of wealth and income, like growing poverty in america. Do you really think it was just by pure chance George W Bush tried to make a constitutional amendment to make gay marrage illegal at the same time we invaded Iraq. Honestly, who really cares, especially congress, (as they dont care about us anyhow) if gay people want to get married.
Five) take all these gang leaders and have a lottery among all their victems families. the ten lucky winners, armed with clubs, get 30 minutes alone with the guy has hes handcuffed to a chair and put it on TV. I have alot more to worry about with these street gangs than with any islamic terrorist. All this home land security crap is just a rouse to take away the cival liberties of the american people and censor the press. Firthermore, it makes me sick to my stomach to think that us, the american people, would ever start fighting with each other, while the government is laughing at us behind our backs. Whites against blacks, both against hispanics, and everybody hates aribs now. these corporations keep getting richer, we keep getting poorer, these gangs run amuch on the streets, but we are all supposed to be scared of “terrorists”. What do you think these gangs are. Put an end to all this crap and clean up our own side of the street first before worrying about what the rest of the world is doing wrong.
In and of itself, no matter which canadate or which party you vote for, things will never get better and only worse if left to the government and as long as people expect the government to solve their problems for them. take the power back, and pass laws through referendum (even if you think i am totally wrong with everything i am saying here). this is your country, you have the the right to decide how its run.
Jeff Collins,
So much common sense in one comment. I concur verbatim and am left to wonder why so few can see the obvious.
The philosopher and economist John Rawls had the motto, “Justice is fairness”. Thats one of my grips against government. I got real lucky three years ago when I ended up falling into the job i have now. The company I work for now needed a butcher right then and my own business was on its very last leg. It was perfect timing. I realize most people aren’t that lucky, especially at my age, in this day in age. Now, my salery is 35k a year, no insurance, no retirement. Oh, the company used to have those benefits, but they eroded away over the years. My salery is exactly the median salery of the people who are fortunate enough to have jobs, which means, more people earn what i make than any other level of pay.
Your congressman earns 178k a year, has health benefits, an extremely nice retirement package, an expense account, an office complete with aides and so forth. He is allowed to send out mail free of charge, he can violate all but the most major of crimes while on his way to congress or in congress.I get a speeding ticket on my way to work, its like 175 bucks. Your “elected offical” doesnt have to pay into social security, which is like 7 percent of my gross pay. But guarrantted, once he leaves office, he will try to get a job in the private sector, pay into social security long enough to double dip, or draw SSI and his government pension.
A friend and co worker recently summed up my feelings for me. He said, “you feel like you are taking care of everyone and no one is watching out for you.” Thats exactly how I feel about it. Here in wisconsin, there was a real moe by the state government to break the govt employee unions.I sympathise with the workers right to collectiely bargain but thats about it. These guys got it real good, and i am paying for it. (welcome to what the private sector has been goingf through for the past 30 years guys!!!!) Who’s looking out for me? Not my government, thats for damn sure. They take your money, talk to you like you’re stupid and lazy, then act like you’re garbage if you want assistance, especially if you are a white male!!! (i am done being potically correct too at this point).
This site is for ideas, you want justice, you want fairness? Here’s an idea. A national referendum for one) no government employee or elected offical can earn more than 10 percent over the median (not average) wage of the people of the United States. At this point in time, that would be 38,500 a year. They hae to pay their own health insurance, use their own cars, buy their own gas, pay for their own postage except for government business, which does not include postage for campaigning or fund raising. Furthermore, make them pay into social security and end their retirement package. Make corporate donations to political canadates or political parties not only taxable, but illegal, punishable by time in a maximum security prison in general population.(no more of these country club prisons niether. Does anyone on this site really think if you got sentenced to prison, you’d be going to one of those country club prisons!!).
Two) Pass a special terriff on goods coming into the United States called the “labor value added tax”. What ever goods are coming into the United States, especially from third world countries, to be sold at places like Walmart or Family Dollar, get taxed at what ever the difference of the cost of labor is between that same good being made in say china as opposed to the cost of labor here in the united States. There’s your new tax revenue folks. The idea is to end the unfair advantage these countries like china have because of cheap labor costs (screwing their workers and ours) in trade and two, so american manufactures lose the incentive to move overseas.
three) Pass a real wage law. This is for companies like Walmart. For each and every employee you have, the hourly minimum wage you have goes up 5 cents above the minumum wage. Here in Wisconsin, the minimum wage is 6.50 hour. Thus the minimum wage of the first person the Mom and Pop store has to pay is 6.50 an hour, If they had 10 employees, it becomes 7.00 an hour. if they had a hundren, it becomes 11.50 an hour, you can figure what all these big corporations with their thousands of employees would have to pay, and how it would cut into the CEO’s salery and benefit package. The idea is to introduce more equity into the American economy. Theres a web site called the http://www.lcurve.com, which brings to light the issue I am talking about. He starts out with a football field. One on side is the stack of hundren dollar bills equal to the poorest person in America’s income, then as we move down the football field, the stacks grow larger. When we pass the 50 yard line, or the midean, the stack of hundren dollar bills is about an inch tall. When we get to the other end, the stack is like 30 miles tall, equal to the richest man in America’s income(Bill Gates). The United States of all the industrialized nations has the greatest inequities of wealth. THIS IS OUTRAGIOUS!!!! The salery of CEO’s and the elites have grown over 70 times of what they were in 1970, Has yours? I tell you now to pay real close attention to the economies of countries in Africa or south east asia folks, They are your future, or the future of your children and grand children if we don’t change currant trends now. Again, “Justice is fairness.”
four) end prohibition on marawhana, prostitution, and gambling. End this crusade against obsessity, tobacco,and guns. Let gays marry and keep the right for women to have abortions. I dont condone any of these actions and i am not particularly against any of them either. but its a big waste of time to keep arguing about them and trying to enforce them. Think of all the money spent on law enforcement, court time, time law makers spend arguing for or against….and they divert our attention from real issues, like the war in iraq, like the inequities of wealth and income, like growing poverty in america. Do you really think it was just by pure chance George W Bush tried to make a constitutional amendment to make gay marrage illegal at the same time we invaded Iraq. Honestly, who really cares, especially congress, (as they dont care about us anyhow) if gay people want to get married.
Five) take all these gang leaders and have a lottery among all their victems families. the ten lucky winners, armed with clubs, get 30 minutes alone with the guy has hes handcuffed to a chair and put it on TV. I have alot more to worry about with these street gangs than with any islamic terrorist. All this home land security crap is just a rouse to take away the cival liberties of the american people and censor the press. Firthermore, it makes me sick to my stomach to think that us, the american people, would ever start fighting with each other, while the government is laughing at us behind our backs. Whites against blacks, both against hispanics, and everybody hates aribs now. these corporations keep getting richer, we keep getting poorer, these gangs run amuch on the streets, but we are all supposed to be scared of “terrorists”. What do you think these gangs are. Put an end to all this crap and clean up our own side of the street first before worrying about what the rest of the world is doing wrong.
In and of itself, no matter which canadate or which party you vote for, things will never get better and only worse if left to the government and as long as people expect the government to solve their problems for them. take the power back, and pass laws through referendum (even if you think i am totally wrong with everything i am saying here). this is your country, you have the the right to decide how its run.
Jeff Collins,
So much common sense in one comment. I concur verbatim and am left to wonder why so few can see the obvious.
thank you.
thank you.
This is part two of my rant:
We also need to pass a national referendum that ends all taxes except a flat rate income tax for all….no exemptions or exceptions. in return, we end all property taxes, utility taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, liquir taxes, and the like(the only exception is the labor value added tarriff)….wake up people…we americans for the most part pay sixty percent in taxes and get very little compared to other first world democracies on the planet….and two percent of your federal taxes goes to pay congress!!!!! of course, this 60 percent applies to the working class, not the elites…its outragious to think billionaries can get away with paying zero taxes, and its happened, more than once. plus with a flay rate tax, can you imagion how much we can slim down the irs and how much simplier doing your taxes would be.
Second, the heath insurance companies have created their own demand in the medical field….you either have health insurance and pay high premiums or you can forget about getting decent health care in the united states. rather it is an intentional plot to steer the united states towards socialism or to keep the masses in line or just a pure random result of unchecked capitalism, more than 40 percent of the US population doesnt have coverage and thus denied all but emergancy health care in a country where we have had the most advanced health care in the world (for those who can afford it). The problem is having a third party payer. economist like to paint a pitcher where the patient abuses the system, when the oppisite is true, the third party payer is more interested in making a profit than the patients best interest, or that is the insurance companies. the solution is to elemente the third party payer, health care becomes like any other commodity….that is between buyers and sellers, patients and doctors. health care providers have to enter the market and compete with other providers for customers, forcing their prices down to affordable levels if they wish to stay in business. this is basic adam smith economics. OUTLAW health insurance companies and sieze their assetts to pay down the national debt.
This is part two of my rant:
We also need to pass a national referendum that ends all taxes except a flat rate income tax for all….no exemptions or exceptions. in return, we end all property taxes, utility taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, liquir taxes, and the like(the only exception is the labor value added tarriff)….wake up people…we americans for the most part pay sixty percent in taxes and get very little compared to other first world democracies on the planet….and two percent of your federal taxes goes to pay congress!!!!! of course, this 60 percent applies to the working class, not the elites…its outragious to think billionaries can get away with paying zero taxes, and its happened, more than once. plus with a flay rate tax, can you imagion how much we can slim down the irs and how much simplier doing your taxes would be.
Second, the heath insurance companies have created their own demand in the medical field….you either have health insurance and pay high premiums or you can forget about getting decent health care in the united states. rather it is an intentional plot to steer the united states towards socialism or to keep the masses in line or just a pure random result of unchecked capitalism, more than 40 percent of the US population doesnt have coverage and thus denied all but emergancy health care in a country where we have had the most advanced health care in the world (for those who can afford it). The problem is having a third party payer. economist like to paint a pitcher where the patient abuses the system, when the oppisite is true, the third party payer is more interested in making a profit than the patients best interest, or that is the insurance companies. the solution is to elemente the third party payer, health care becomes like any other commodity….that is between buyers and sellers, patients and doctors. health care providers have to enter the market and compete with other providers for customers, forcing their prices down to affordable levels if they wish to stay in business. this is basic adam smith economics. OUTLAW health insurance companies and sieze their assetts to pay down the national debt.
So I’ve mulled over a lot of your ideas & solutions as I have not had a real job in over 4 years. I just finished up a project working in my trade via a Temporary Agency. The problem is that I’ve collected unemployment when I first was laid off up until the 99 week cut off while always maintaining a job search but to my avail not one job was there to be had as I’m a electrician with nothing to wire. Today there are commercial jobs available for a electrician in my area but the competition is fierce. The biggest problem for myself though is that there isn’t really any job openings but just Temporary positions with a possible permanent hire on. Well I am again unemployed searching for work with my newly modified mortgage from one of the Big Banks Bailed Out by my tax dollars threatening to take my house if I miss one payment. The problem is the way small business has come to terms with this economic down spin & we need to address the problem here from the bottom up! Firstly we must stop letting small business utilize the temporary agencies to get out of their responsibilities to their employees by not taking the jobs temp agents are offering on Craigslist or your local paper. The mindset of the employers today is that the economy is bad & therefore none of them want risk involved. Other words they do not want to pay into unemployment, they do not wish to pay out for benefits nor do they want to pay holidays or vacation pay. They are now part of the problem! Today small business owners are not doing business the old fashioned way but they are utilizing the temps for their own gain. Call it capitalistic but they (Small Business) have found away to do the job cheaper(By buying inferior Chinese parts and materials) hiring temps (who by the way cost more hourly than a regular employee) as the temp agencies take a portion from each head of cattle the put in the field. I believe my temp. agency was getting $5.00 for every hour I worked. So the problem is that I don’t get the extra money & at the same time the temp agents are at war constantly devaluing my trade worth by landing contracts with the contractors cheaper than the next agency while all along killing my chance for a stable job with benefits! The Temps have to go and when these contractors need employees they need to hire them, give them what they deserve as far a right to health benefits & treat their fellow man like a human being instead of a piece of shit! Get rid of the Temp agencies by not taking the bait and eventually the small business owners will have to interview face to face another person with feelings, financial needs for their families and the utmost desire to hold down a steady job that is the answer to all of the problems as far as I can see? We tried to get help from Washington and our Congressmen but really when was the last time the very wealthy did a F’n thing for you?!! We need to start from the bottom and build our way up to the top (who incidentally want to stay there) by beginning in changing the mind set of the Small Business owners to stop using Temporary Agencies in order to put the money back in the working mans pockets. To now be able to go to the Doctor when he or she is sick & to offer back stability into our American homes. We are the middle class &we are the ones who bailed out the big banks & major corporations out without any extra consideration as this economy continuously heads for a great depression which will eventually tear down the walls of class and destroy whats left of a once Grand opportunity for all.
Karl Vasone,
By jingle brother you’ve almost got it. Now for the kicker. The rest of the story. The final nail in the coffin. The corporations own the temp agencies.
So I’ve mulled over a lot of your ideas & solutions as I have not had a real job in over 4 years. I just finished up a project working in my trade via a Temporary Agency. The problem is that I’ve collected unemployment when I first was laid off up until the 99 week cut off while always maintaining a job search but to my avail not one job was there to be had as I’m a electrician with nothing to wire. Today there are commercial jobs available for a electrician in my area but the competition is fierce. The biggest problem for myself though is that there isn’t really any job openings but just Temporary positions with a possible permanent hire on. Well I am again unemployed searching for work with my newly modified mortgage from one of the Big Banks Bailed Out by my tax dollars threatening to take my house if I miss one payment. The problem is the way small business has come to terms with this economic down spin & we need to address the problem here from the bottom up! Firstly we must stop letting small business utilize the temporary agencies to get out of their responsibilities to their employees by not taking the jobs temp agents are offering on Craigslist or your local paper. The mindset of the employers today is that the economy is bad & therefore none of them want risk involved. Other words they do not want to pay into unemployment, they do not wish to pay out for benefits nor do they want to pay holidays or vacation pay. They are now part of the problem! Today small business owners are not doing business the old fashioned way but they are utilizing the temps for their own gain. Call it capitalistic but they (Small Business) have found away to do the job cheaper(By buying inferior Chinese parts and materials) hiring temps (who by the way cost more hourly than a regular employee) as the temp agencies take a portion from each head of cattle the put in the field. I believe my temp. agency was getting $5.00 for every hour I worked. So the problem is that I don’t get the extra money & at the same time the temp agents are at war constantly devaluing my trade worth by landing contracts with the contractors cheaper than the next agency while all along killing my chance for a stable job with benefits! The Temps have to go and when these contractors need employees they need to hire them, give them what they deserve as far a right to health benefits & treat their fellow man like a human being instead of a piece of shit! Get rid of the Temp agencies by not taking the bait and eventually the small business owners will have to interview face to face another person with feelings, financial needs for their families and the utmost desire to hold down a steady job that is the answer to all of the problems as far as I can see? We tried to get help from Washington and our Congressmen but really when was the last time the very wealthy did a F’n thing for you?!! We need to start from the bottom and build our way up to the top (who incidentally want to stay there) by beginning in changing the mind set of the Small Business owners to stop using Temporary Agencies in order to put the money back in the working mans pockets. To now be able to go to the Doctor when he or she is sick & to offer back stability into our American homes. We are the middle class &we are the ones who bailed out the big banks & major corporations out without any extra consideration as this economy continuously heads for a great depression which will eventually tear down the walls of class and destroy whats left of a once Grand opportunity for all.
Karl Vasone,
By jingle brother you’ve almost got it. Now for the kicker. The rest of the story. The final nail in the coffin. The corporations own the temp agencies.
Is there anyone who can compile the jobs created by state and unemployment compensation data for the last 2 years (or more for historical references) and make a true count of how many 99ers are really out there? Right now they call 60,000 (highly doubted) and do a survey to see if you are working, looking for work or whatever. I’ve never been called. The trick is they only call 7,500 “NEW” people per month for the survey. They repeat calling the others until they fall off after 8 months. This isn’t a good method for any statistical approach. Using information like this is a start. http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/06/alabama_businesses_likely_wont.html
This is what we need to find out. Then battle the media to show the real information.
Is there anyone who can compile the jobs created by state and unemployment compensation data for the last 2 years (or more for historical references) and make a true count of how many 99ers are really out there? Right now they call 60,000 (highly doubted) and do a survey to see if you are working, looking for work or whatever. I’ve never been called. The trick is they only call 7,500 “NEW” people per month for the survey. They repeat calling the others until they fall off after 8 months. This isn’t a good method for any statistical approach. Using information like this is a start. http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/06/alabama_businesses_likely_wont.html
This is what we need to find out. Then battle the media to show the real information.
Nice job with the “In the News” section Henry. This is the kind of thinking that will help bring numbers to the site. Nice work! Looking forward to more great ideas!
Nice job with the “In the News” section Henry. This is the kind of thinking that will help bring numbers to the site. Nice work! Looking forward to more great ideas!
Henry,
One of the things worth considering is maybe changing the colors of the site to red, white and blue somehow. Maybe a white background front page, with more blue and red text. This might bring in more numbers. Maybe these darker colors currently in place are psychologically throwing people off. Maybe brighten things up a bit. Something is throwing people off, can’t quite put my finger on it. Sure our content scares people, but I think we are past that now. Just a thought.
Visual cues that are appealing to the eye.
Mark,
Since it’s start From the Trenches has grown above the average, right up until the day Google let loose its attack.
Most of our demographic consists of people our age. When the site first went up there were many comments on the design of the site, all favorable. The most frequent was in reference to it being easy on the eyes as opposed to the bright flashy sites.
The reason people are not coming to From the Trenches is because Google is making it harder and harder to find. When all our articles were indexed in Google News anyone searching a term that was contained in our content was brought to our site.
We will get our numbers back when we put a live broadcast online and the main thing we have to do in the meantime for those who have remained loyal is not change – not the format, not the design, not the content. What we have left to build on is there because of the impression we have left and that is what we must rebuild on – hard core, intellectual content without pulling a single punch.
Roger that henry,
I’m just pissed because I saw one of your articles go to thirty thousand hits. Now these bastards are trying to zero us. I’m with you 198.74 percent Henry. I have six more months before the SHTF. With a little luck, things will change, still can’t believe these bastards did this to us though.
Could you elaborate a little on how the broadcast is going to work? Will it be just like an info war type thing, where you broadcast the content, and then we download or listen live?
It will be live. Exactly how it works, I’m not completely sure, but the guys at Liberty Tree Radio will help me set it up. As for building the broadcast, that is what I’m going to school for. I’m sure I could do it right now, but I want to have every bit of information from the school that I can get as I want the broadcast to be top of the line.
Henry,
One of the things worth considering is maybe changing the colors of the site to red, white and blue somehow. Maybe a white background front page, with more blue and red text. This might bring in more numbers. Maybe these darker colors currently in place are psychologically throwing people off. Maybe brighten things up a bit. Something is throwing people off, can’t quite put my finger on it. Sure our content scares people, but I think we are past that now. Just a thought.
Visual cues that are appealing to the eye.
Mark,
Since it’s start From the Trenches has grown above the average, right up until the day Google let loose its attack.
Most of our demographic consists of people our age. When the site first went up there were many comments on the design of the site, all favorable. The most frequent was in reference to it being easy on the eyes as opposed to the bright flashy sites.
The reason people are not coming to From the Trenches is because Google is making it harder and harder to find. When all our articles were indexed in Google News anyone searching a term that was contained in our content was brought to our site.
We will get our numbers back when we put a live broadcast online and the main thing we have to do in the meantime for those who have remained loyal is not change – not the format, not the design, not the content. What we have left to build on is there because of the impression we have left and that is what we must rebuild on – hard core, intellectual content without pulling a single punch.
Roger that henry,
I’m just pissed because I saw one of your articles go to thirty thousand hits. Now these bastards are trying to zero us. I’m with you 198.74 percent Henry. I have six more months before the SHTF. With a little luck, things will change, still can’t believe these bastards did this to us though.
Could you elaborate a little on how the broadcast is going to work? Will it be just like an info war type thing, where you broadcast the content, and then we download or listen live?
It will be live. Exactly how it works, I’m not completely sure, but the guys at Liberty Tree Radio will help me set it up. As for building the broadcast, that is what I’m going to school for. I’m sure I could do it right now, but I want to have every bit of information from the school that I can get as I want the broadcast to be top of the line.
I suggest stopping your cable TV or satellite this stops the flow of money. When physically protesting, uphold the law, don’t litter remember this is our land keep it clean, respect the people who live where you are protesting.
Don’t give the police the opportunity to arrest anyone. You have to represent yourselves as upstanding Americans who are in a legal protest to right the wrongs done to all of us.
I’m not trying to preach. I want justice for all!
I live on Social Security, I pull out electric plugs after using appliances, all my light bulbs are florescent, in the summer I hardly use the air when I do it’s on eighty, In winter, I use a water distiller for drinking water and to heat my apartment. I know when you don’t have money even these things are help very little but if you have a little money these things make a difference. I hope this helped.
I suggest stopping your cable TV or satellite this stops the flow of money. When physically protesting, uphold the law, don’t litter remember this is our land keep it clean, respect the people who live where you are protesting.
Don’t give the police the opportunity to arrest anyone. You have to represent yourselves as upstanding Americans who are in a legal protest to right the wrongs done to all of us.
I’m not trying to preach. I want justice for all!
I live on Social Security, I pull out electric plugs after using appliances, all my light bulbs are florescent, in the summer I hardly use the air when I do it’s on eighty, In winter, I use a water distiller for drinking water and to heat my apartment. I know when you don’t have money even these things are help very little but if you have a little money these things make a difference. I hope this helped.
I woke up this morning to the news reporting that the Salvation Army needed more donations for Christmas. My daughter-in-law stood in a long line behind a bunch of Mexicans that could not speak a word of English, with their 5 year old translator, which our tax dollars paid to teach him at the Head Start programs, to find out by the time she got her turn they had no toys left for my Native American Grandchildren. Is it not enough that they are here by committing a felony? Is it not enough they have one anchor kid after another on our welfare system and the men are taking all the jobs for peanuts? I see them in stores with new brand name clothes, gold chains, filling up their baskets with all kinds of nice things and the 6 kids also pushing baskets full of food and clothes etc., then at the check out they can’t speak English, but they whip out those hundred dollar bills, then that food stamp card for the groceries. Next time you’re outside a store and the man dressed like Santa is ringing a bell, and you’re digging for a little left over change, be aware that your money is funding this crap.
I woke up this morning to the news reporting that the Salvation Army needed more donations for Christmas. My daughter-in-law stood in a long line behind a bunch of Mexicans that could not speak a word of English, with their 5 year old translator, which our tax dollars paid to teach him at the Head Start programs, to find out by the time she got her turn they had no toys left for my Native American Grandchildren. Is it not enough that they are here by committing a felony? Is it not enough they have one anchor kid after another on our welfare system and the men are taking all the jobs for peanuts? I see them in stores with new brand name clothes, gold chains, filling up their baskets with all kinds of nice things and the 6 kids also pushing baskets full of food and clothes etc., then at the check out they can’t speak English, but they whip out those hundred dollar bills, then that food stamp card for the groceries. Next time you’re outside a store and the man dressed like Santa is ringing a bell, and you’re digging for a little left over change, be aware that your money is funding this crap.
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Join local taxpayer and civic groups. Don’t be afraid to be the lone wolf and speak out even if you suspect nobody will agree with you. You may be pleasantly surprised to learn that they are eagerly awaiting a wolf that will lead them against the lion that has been running things and actually aiding their enemies. A case in point. I’d never paid attention to the Bucks County Taxpayers’ Association until I read it was calling for a State income tax to fund the schools. I went to the next meeting to let the association know that it didn’t represent this taxpayer. I called for local tax to support locally controlled schools. I received strong opposition from the outgoing president (he’d parlayed that position into a twp supervisor’s post) who was pushing it. I think he was stunned to see “his” people nodding in agreement with me.
I joined the association that night. Within a month I was asked to sit on the board of directors and withing two to three months the official position of the Bucks County Taxpayers’ Association was to support local taxes for local schools.
That’s only one instance where my big mouth revealed an opposition to control from above. Never be silent.
Your point is spot on, it applies to any and all groups. With young kids, I am going to local school board meetings and people rarely speak up. I challenge statements made by my elected politicians. I also put out ideas no matter how unpopular. The way politics controls the people is to control the direction of the message from both sides (right or left wing) so adding a third voice breaks the power monopoly on ideas. This is the root of why we have a two party system; it is the only manageable way to divide and conquer the people politically. Well if you don’t speak up (the local people) how can you expect local control. Be assertive to speak your mind and your reasoning for your opinion. Then let it sit in the room for other to consider. If more of us do this simple task then we would have fewer problem form top-down management within our (the people’s) Government.
Eminent domain is basically the siezing of private property for public use. Trying to take their very expensive homes and use them as shelters for the homeless would almost be a little like Karma. After all, you can’t pay your mortgage if you don’t have a job and your unemployment has run out and before you know it your family home is siezed by the bank and you are kicked out onto the streets.
Well, kick em back, dammit, and show them exactly how it feels. Then move in the very people their actions put on the streets. Do it in the name of We, the People or something patriotic and set it up so it hits the first group of them on the same day you will not only have the attention of the Nation but they will be behind you and in support of your cause because they are We, the People.
Keep it all as quiet as possible so when it hits it explodes.
Make the first group big but not too big so they will be sure to realize they aren’t alone in this but it does not include everyone either and the fingerpointing will begin because they will need to know Who is to Blame and the media loves reporting on the blame game. I don’t think it will be long before the world knows the targeted Senators and Congressmen are blaming this horrible unfair travesty on We, the People…..
Then give the first group a few days to really stew about it then hit the second group…..then the third…..fourth…..by then the rest of them should realize they need to change their evil ways or We, the People will be coming for them too. In all reality though, even if none of them end up actually losing their homes they will have to fight it out through the courts and that is going to cost them a lot of money because the attorneys will exploit the financial opportunity. Hit them in the wallet and you will have their attention.
We all know that something needs to be done and we are waiting for somebody to start it. The fair sense of justice is something Americans stand for and we still have the right to do this legally……this little idea has the potential to make alot of noise.
I know there is much I don’t know about the process of eminent domain but I know it is something that can be done so if you think it is workable get with an attorney to be sure to protect yourself. You will likely be ruffling ALOT of high dollar feathers so be safe. Peace.
There are so many things a person can do to get ready. where do I start? Ok, you are home without water or elect. What do you do? We have to have water to live. But if you think about it. there will be 1000’s of gallons water under your feet. The water lines(pipes) that feed all the houses around you, are BIG. If you will invest in a 12 volt water pump? Or a hand pump? You can get that water into your home. Make sure all the water outlets are off. Tie into the easest one to work with. open water and start pumping. Save all you can. because it will not last for ever. But will let you have a stock of water. I have did this and know it works. As far as elect. As you drive around your home town. LOOK! You will see solar panels everywhere. Railroads us them all over. Buy a 1500 watt inverter. You will be out of gas. So take that batt. and hook it up. 1500 watts will run most iceboxes. Be sure to cut it back. lowest setting. For a small investment. You can get through this. Might want to cover windows. people will see you have lights? They WILL TAKE YOUR STUFF!!!
What about just digging wells? Forget their contaminated water.
This my Idea….You want peaceful media attention? You get 20 to 30 kids with adults to walk across one of our States—choose any one of them. Each adult and child is wearing a shirt with the face of the traitors in our Government with something written under the traitor’s face indicating what the creep voted for or against: 1) Holder- Lied to congress. 2) A shirt that gives the real unemployment number. I think you get the Idea. There is no doubt it would draw attention, good or bad—it works. Nothing on the shirts would be false information, only the truth along with your website. Any Interviews would be the way in which you tell people about your website and what you are doing. I’m just putting this out there…It reminded me of Forest Gump running across the USA, and the attention he got…sometimes Life can imitate art.
In your list of basic needs you missed one that makes a major difference when it comes to resistance to parasites. Your health….The number one damper on action is chronic pain it may come as a surprise but a simple sprained ankle which causes you to “limp” for a day or two will over time destroy you. Take a minute and think about “limping” in mechanical terms. What happens is you shift weight and muscle use to avoid aggravating the injury, that shift results in the misalignment of joints and the imbalancing of muscles which then cascades through out your entire body. The results are chronic pain, lower physical performance and a greater risk of further injury and disease/complications. One of the major benefits of using this process is that you heal and your enemy does not which means in a war of attrition he runs out of thugs before you run out of “activists”.
http://jamesb.hubpages.com/hub/Speed-healing-of-trauma-injuries-through-self-directed-regeneration
Subject:: Civil Defense
Some of us are old enough to remember the Civil Defense system of emergency shelters in the 1960’s. The prevailing idea (initiated by President Kennedy?) was to protect a large portion of our population from any nuclear fallout from a local blast. Some people were constructing their own underground shelters, equipped with water, food, lighting, generator, fuel, medical supplies, etc.
That mindset fell away with production of huge quantities of bombs, with a promise of “nuclear deterrence”. Then we had a reduction of nuclear arsonals (USSR-cum-Russia & US), and now we just sit here waiting for the next terrorist network to detonate a series of bombs. What do we do with natural disasters?
We “send out the National Guard” to maintain security (against looting). Red Cross responds with medical triage and support. Some volunteer agencies gather a group to zoom into a stricken zone. FEMA is constructing remote sites for epidemics: they are planning for transport of huge numbers of people for
quarantine, recovery or disposal. That’s our plan.
Now compare our plan with China’s underground safety net. They can quickly recover from any disaster with
few lives lost. We have already constructed at least 50 underground cities for the survival of our federal
government figureheads and their families, built by contractors under gag order secrecy. These cities are
allegedly connected with tunnels and mag-lev trains. Too bad for the rest of the population-they don’t know
about or have access to these DUMB’s (Google this subject for leaked information and photos). These are built
with off-budget federal funds, so you won’t be able to track them through OMB, or even read about them at
government websites because they are secret operations.
After one of those hurricanes in Oklahoma, I recall one resident being interviewed who proposed that schools
be required to provide an underground shelter with generator, water, toilets and food available. That would be a good start. Local building codes could be set to require such facilities underneath new buildings, if that is the
will of the people. Local funds would be required to finance such projects, so that’s the hang-up.
Here’s the question: do US citizens want a national civil defense network of shelters?
It’s time for us to get a campaign moving us toward
ok NATO is a club. One for all, all for one. An attack on one is an attack on all. Now with Turkey and Israel not liking each other much. What would happen if Israel attacked Turkey militarily? Being a NATO member (Turkey) does the US and NATO defend Turkey?
Reality is even uglier than I thought. The conflicts of the warmongering neoconservative zionists are disabling our young military vets in preparation for Homeland Security’s impending martial law. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-05-28/veteran-disability/55250092/1
I realize many comments are national/international here.. .but. . .
I read the comment on speaking out in local school board meetings. I now pose a situation to you and ask advise. My home is full of readers. We have had no media propaganda in our home for 15+ years a.k.a. no television or hollywood productions being in our home.
A local thrift store here (professing Christianity) and its workers there being drug re-hab men, sells books among many other things. I discovered they weekly destroy/recycle about 2,000 books. . WEEKLY. (This is epidemic throughout the nation). The Salvation army is doing it too. THOUSANDS of books, weekly.
Well, at one time I was going through their “discards” because someone there allowed me in to build the library of a new classical approach private school that had opened, locally.
I immediately discovered the workers there did not know the value of the books being thrown out. It was all random. I was discovered after about 5 months and told to leave. The man who let me in suddenly left also. Weird coincidence.
A year went by and I had zero peace on this. I then thought to upgrade THEIR store of books being sold. I got in again and it was lovely. I slaved there pulling the good books to put on their shelves which would also help local book sellers. Why not? Bless others as they are blessed. This thrift store/rehab/Christian organization profits in the millions every year. Within a few days, I was discovered and asked to fill out a volunteer application. (I’ve shopped there for years and they all know me already).
No one responded to my application. After many phone calls and e-mails I finally got a lying e-mail saying pretty much that though they were impressed by my qualifications, they did not have need for me.
I was furious and wrote a long letter itemizing the “untruths” and inconsistencies of this response cc’ing it to many people including the head guy.
No response.
QUESTION: WHICH BATTLES DO WE PURSUE AND WHICH BATTLES DO WE DROP?
I’m ready to write letters to all the board members of this organization. However I suspect maybe they are in on it too.. one of those Board Members was caught in perversion.
The men there have confided in me, saying such things as the founder, if he were alive, would “roll in his grave” at what goes on there.
ADVISE PLEASE????
Thank you!
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My fellow Americans may not like what I have to share as an activist and investigator, and I believe, a patriot who served with distinction in the Army during the Vietnam War and draft by society asking us to serve this nation. I would do it again if society asked me no matter how manipulated the wars have been by the elitists: Americans need to wake up and stop the sleepwalking and repeating the nonsense lies. Europeans are alarmed at us for not being more aware geo-politically and seeing through the disinformation we are being inundated by, and being so lazy and complacent(they go out into the streets and stay there until the manipulators step down). Case in point, we had 500 show up in Las Vegas for three days in 1990 to hear the truth about gene-spliced AIDS, were told to network and head off the 30% virological benchmark(3 out of 10 testing positive worldwide) in Oct-Nov 1992 and right on schedule, but because lazy Americans didn’t act because they think someone else must be doing enough if they see red flags waving, did nothing, we did not head off the deadline, and then 5000(imagine) showed up at the next meeting angrier than sin and dismayed at our lazy and spoiled selves in this country. We are being targeted socially, financially, and with advanced technology(Weather Warfare) and need to network and confront only after we have sufficient numbers(their biggest concern). Their primary aim is to take away all of those freedoms we have, so don’t be mislead. Suds, ball games, going to meetings, and talking about our favorite conspiracy subjects over apple pie and coffee late night, isn’t enough. Most of what we hear doesn’t add up so we need to hear the truth no matter how difficult it is(AWARENESS). Next we need to NETWORK actively to increase our numbers which empowers us, and even help those activists burdened financially(elitist banking system). Generally we are divided not united. We need to saturate cyberspace by IT specialists, radio talk shows, public but private presentations with the geo-political and socio-economic truth(gene-spliced viruses, Persian Gulf War genocide-overthrow attempt, secret genocides by the same group, completely revised Constitution behind the Constitutional Convention push, financial war, how we are being doped to be complacent and helplessly apathetic, elitist privately-owned IRS, FED, USPS) how America has lost its allies with our government being run by the world elitists as a democracy with secret genocides, and not by the people, of the people, and for the people in a constitutional republican gov. The radio and live audience presentations should be taped and sold to help support the FTTWR.com effort. We need to reach out to the other organizations sputtering and network and UNITE. It is our last opportunity and MI around the globe who is aware of all herein, needs us to do our part, as they battle secretly militarily. The elitists will not stop(notice?) until we CONFRONT them with sufficient numbers. – a Supporter
We are doing more than talking ! We have built a large Aquaponics system that requires only 10% of the normal amount t of water to grow fruits and veggies and grows them 3 x faster than in the ground. very easy and can produce an incredible amount of fresh food quickly and efficiently. Please look into these type of systems they are very versatile. They can be underground with led light source or in a green house or just under some shade cloth if your in Fl .
Aquaponics is the bomb! And so is hydroponics and several variations of that. People can grow a lot of food in a little bit of space and with a lot less water than they think.