Are you guys serious? He was born to American parents in a foreign land, that makes him an American by birth. And believe me, I don’t like saying this about our liar in chief, but unless BO’s mother denounced her American citizenship, BO, too, was born to an American parent (one anyway). So he, too, under the Constitution qualifies as an American citizen. I WISH he were born in Kenya to a Kenyan family, but he wasn’t; at least not that anyone has been able to prove.
Getting back to Cruz’ situation though, by your standards, every GI baby ever born on foreign soil, any baby born on foreign soil to a U.S. Ambassador, any baby born to U.S Missionaries on foreign soil would be a citizen of that foreign land, right? But that’s not the case, they are American’s because they were born to U.S. citizen parents.
It’s OUR country that has subverted the anchor baby issue. It’s the progressive left who has declared any baby born on our soil (namely Mexican babies) are automatically American citizens. It doesn’t work the same for American parents having babies in other countries; those babies are American.
So let’s not get Cruz’ birth location screwed up with him being born to American citizens,,,, unless you guys are looking for, oh, I don’t know, Jeb or Billery to run and win? If you would like a conservative to run and win, you might think about someone like Cruz, who refuses to play the DC games. I could think of a few other guys I wouldn’t mind running, like Trey Gowdy, Mike Lee and maybe even Scott Walker.
“If you would like a conservative to run and win, you might think about someone like Cruz, who refuses to play the DC games. I could think of a few other guys I wouldn’t mind running, like Trey Gowdy, Mike Lee and maybe even Scott Walker.”
Still buying the false left-right paradigm, eh?
The ONLY choices are THEIR choices. There IS no ‘lesser evil’. Voting is a TOTAL fraud. Anyone who votes knowing this this is affirming the fraud, and should be considered a traitor, imo.
“He was born to American parents in a foreign land”
Wrong. Only one parent was an American citizen.
His Mother was an American citizen. His Father did not become and American citizen until 2005.
Not that it matters (it only takes one parent being an American citizen for the child to be considered an American citizen). Just getting the facts straight.
Actually, had Obama been born in the USA, his communist mother was ineligible due to her young age to confer citizenship on him at birth under the laws at the time. His communist father, however, was a Kenyan, which means that he would have conferred British citizenship upon his son at birth. The point is rather moot, however, since Obama was born in Kenya by his own admission during his senatorial and community organizer years. He was later adopted by an Indonesian communist, raised as a communist and muslim, and attended college in the USA as a foreign exchange student, again by his own admission. While in college, he traveled to Pakistan with homosexual communist friends (who happened to have ties to terrorist groups) during a time when it would have been impossible for an American citizen to be admitted to Pakistan; he undoubtedly traveled on his Indonesian passport. To my knowledge, Obama has never been naturalized. He has been caught using numerous social security numbers, the most recent having been issued to a Connecticut man born in the 19th century. His own family insists that they attended his birth in Kenya. He insisted that he had been born in Kenya until such time as that became a liability: the moment he threw his hat into the ring for president. Suddenly, and only then, the narrative changed and his people scrambled to concoct this preposterous story of him having been born in Hawaii. It should really scare the hell out of everyone in the USA that a fraud of this magnitude has been paraded around in the light of day and perpetrated with such success.
Obama is an empty suit, a non-person, a shadow, an actor filling the role for which his communist handlers have groomed him. Again, by his own admission he assumes the image people most expect from him. That takes a long, intense level of indoctrination and training; birth would be about the right time to start it.
Remember: communists take the long view. This is the culmination of a plan to destroy the USA started long ago by those whose interests were upset by our Declaration of Independence, revolution, and subsequent recognition as a sovereign republic of free men. We set back their plans by 200 years and the Red Shield do not forget. Nor do they forgive.
“If you would like a conservative to run and win, you might think about someone like Cruz, who refuses to play the DC games. I could think of a few other guys I wouldn’t mind running, like Trey Gowdy, Mike Lee and maybe even Scott Walker.”
Georgianbychoice, your argument is based on the erroneous assumption that we have a functioning government; we do not. What the US has is a national corporation with global reach run by an international criminal cartel, which deceives people into thinking it is a government.
The present US “government” is no more legitimate than the Federal Reserve is the legitimate federal bank; to be clear, neither is legitimate – the government is the criminal business enterprise, and the Federal Reserve is the economy-destroying ponzi debt scheme run by banksters.
And there is no essential difference in “political” candidates: they, of whichever party, are all backed and run by the criminal cartel. Time to turn off the programming machine and stop playing the cartel’s game.
This is not to offend anyone but this has hit a nerve with me. It is the same as saying I am not an American citizen. His mother is American. He may have been born in Canada but he is naturally an American citizen through his mother. I was born in Germany, and I am an American citizen by birth. My dad was American, my mother German. I am a natural born citizen of the United States. So what I am not American because I was born in Germany? I am as American as you are. Not German American… Just American.
Sorry to strike a nerve, Angelfire, but if you were born in Germany to one parent a US citizen and the other a German citizen, then you are an ordinary citizen, not a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, “Both parents must be the citizens of, and the birth must take place in the concerned country, assuming that the citizenship inherited by this child and the loyalty are never changed ever after.” There’s a good discussion of this at http://www.resonoelusono.com/naturalborncitizen.htm.
“Natural born citizen” means a citizen at birth, therefore I am a natural born citizen of the United States of America. I have never had citizenship with any other country. There is no such thing as ordinary citizen, there is such a thing as a naturalized citizen, but that is when someone becomes a U.S. Citizen. The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.
Angefire, your argument is a good example of how the hell we got here and this nation usurped, “interpreting” and changing the meaning of law rather than studying the source of law as applied when it was put into place. Read “Law of Nations,” by Emerich de Vattel, which was cited as a legal source when the Constitution was written, specifically Chapter 19, subsection 212.
You probably think Obama and Cruz are natural born citizens, too. By all means, even though you were born abroad and only ONE of your parents was a US citizen, enjoy YOUR “natural born” citizenship of the US corporation and your corporate enslavement. I’m done arguing.
INELIGIBLE!! Just like the present one.
The one with the blatantly fake birth cert & the SSN of some CT dead guy…born in the 19c.
But that is juuuuuuust fiiiiiine.
The BS never ends
He IS wearing commie red, though.
The RCMP should have switched to fascist black uniforms a long time ago.
You tried a Kenyan – Why not a Canadian? LOL
INELIGIBLE!!
Well Canada is closer eh? LOL
Are you guys serious? He was born to American parents in a foreign land, that makes him an American by birth. And believe me, I don’t like saying this about our liar in chief, but unless BO’s mother denounced her American citizenship, BO, too, was born to an American parent (one anyway). So he, too, under the Constitution qualifies as an American citizen. I WISH he were born in Kenya to a Kenyan family, but he wasn’t; at least not that anyone has been able to prove.
Getting back to Cruz’ situation though, by your standards, every GI baby ever born on foreign soil, any baby born on foreign soil to a U.S. Ambassador, any baby born to U.S Missionaries on foreign soil would be a citizen of that foreign land, right? But that’s not the case, they are American’s because they were born to U.S. citizen parents.
It’s OUR country that has subverted the anchor baby issue. It’s the progressive left who has declared any baby born on our soil (namely Mexican babies) are automatically American citizens. It doesn’t work the same for American parents having babies in other countries; those babies are American.
So let’s not get Cruz’ birth location screwed up with him being born to American citizens,,,, unless you guys are looking for, oh, I don’t know, Jeb or Billery to run and win? If you would like a conservative to run and win, you might think about someone like Cruz, who refuses to play the DC games. I could think of a few other guys I wouldn’t mind running, like Trey Gowdy, Mike Lee and maybe even Scott Walker.
“If you would like a conservative to run and win, you might think about someone like Cruz, who refuses to play the DC games. I could think of a few other guys I wouldn’t mind running, like Trey Gowdy, Mike Lee and maybe even Scott Walker.”
Still buying the false left-right paradigm, eh?
The ONLY choices are THEIR choices. There IS no ‘lesser evil’. Voting is a TOTAL fraud. Anyone who votes knowing this this is affirming the fraud, and should be considered a traitor, imo.
“He was born to American parents in a foreign land”
Wrong. Only one parent was an American citizen.
His Mother was an American citizen. His Father did not become and American citizen until 2005.
Not that it matters (it only takes one parent being an American citizen for the child to be considered an American citizen). Just getting the facts straight.
lol… glitch in the matrix?
LOL
http://www.latinorebels.com/2013/06/20/senator-ted-cruzs-dad-tells-npr-that-he-bribed-his-way-into-the-united-states/
Actually, had Obama been born in the USA, his communist mother was ineligible due to her young age to confer citizenship on him at birth under the laws at the time. His communist father, however, was a Kenyan, which means that he would have conferred British citizenship upon his son at birth. The point is rather moot, however, since Obama was born in Kenya by his own admission during his senatorial and community organizer years. He was later adopted by an Indonesian communist, raised as a communist and muslim, and attended college in the USA as a foreign exchange student, again by his own admission. While in college, he traveled to Pakistan with homosexual communist friends (who happened to have ties to terrorist groups) during a time when it would have been impossible for an American citizen to be admitted to Pakistan; he undoubtedly traveled on his Indonesian passport. To my knowledge, Obama has never been naturalized. He has been caught using numerous social security numbers, the most recent having been issued to a Connecticut man born in the 19th century. His own family insists that they attended his birth in Kenya. He insisted that he had been born in Kenya until such time as that became a liability: the moment he threw his hat into the ring for president. Suddenly, and only then, the narrative changed and his people scrambled to concoct this preposterous story of him having been born in Hawaii. It should really scare the hell out of everyone in the USA that a fraud of this magnitude has been paraded around in the light of day and perpetrated with such success.
Obama is an empty suit, a non-person, a shadow, an actor filling the role for which his communist handlers have groomed him. Again, by his own admission he assumes the image people most expect from him. That takes a long, intense level of indoctrination and training; birth would be about the right time to start it.
Remember: communists take the long view. This is the culmination of a plan to destroy the USA started long ago by those whose interests were upset by our Declaration of Independence, revolution, and subsequent recognition as a sovereign republic of free men. We set back their plans by 200 years and the Red Shield do not forget. Nor do they forgive.
“If you would like a conservative to run and win, you might think about someone like Cruz, who refuses to play the DC games. I could think of a few other guys I wouldn’t mind running, like Trey Gowdy, Mike Lee and maybe even Scott Walker.”
Georgianbychoice, your argument is based on the erroneous assumption that we have a functioning government; we do not. What the US has is a national corporation with global reach run by an international criminal cartel, which deceives people into thinking it is a government.
The present US “government” is no more legitimate than the Federal Reserve is the legitimate federal bank; to be clear, neither is legitimate – the government is the criminal business enterprise, and the Federal Reserve is the economy-destroying ponzi debt scheme run by banksters.
And there is no essential difference in “political” candidates: they, of whichever party, are all backed and run by the criminal cartel. Time to turn off the programming machine and stop playing the cartel’s game.
Well put Enbe.
This is not to offend anyone but this has hit a nerve with me. It is the same as saying I am not an American citizen. His mother is American. He may have been born in Canada but he is naturally an American citizen through his mother. I was born in Germany, and I am an American citizen by birth. My dad was American, my mother German. I am a natural born citizen of the United States. So what I am not American because I was born in Germany? I am as American as you are. Not German American… Just American.
Sorry to strike a nerve, Angelfire, but if you were born in Germany to one parent a US citizen and the other a German citizen, then you are an ordinary citizen, not a natural born citizen. To be a natural born citizen, “Both parents must be the citizens of, and the birth must take place in the concerned country, assuming that the citizenship inherited by this child and the loyalty are never changed ever after.” There’s a good discussion of this at http://www.resonoelusono.com/naturalborncitizen.htm.
“Natural born citizen” means a citizen at birth, therefore I am a natural born citizen of the United States of America. I have never had citizenship with any other country. There is no such thing as ordinary citizen, there is such a thing as a naturalized citizen, but that is when someone becomes a U.S. Citizen. The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.
Angefire, your argument is a good example of how the hell we got here and this nation usurped, “interpreting” and changing the meaning of law rather than studying the source of law as applied when it was put into place. Read “Law of Nations,” by Emerich de Vattel, which was cited as a legal source when the Constitution was written, specifically Chapter 19, subsection 212.
You probably think Obama and Cruz are natural born citizens, too. By all means, even though you were born abroad and only ONE of your parents was a US citizen, enjoy YOUR “natural born” citizenship of the US corporation and your corporate enslavement. I’m done arguing.
No I don’t think Obama is a natural born citizen. But as for Cruz yes, The same as I am. Go ahead and google the definition of Natural Born. This is the real reason we are where we are today: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152860978662357&pnref=story