3 Last Minute Survival Scenarios

We know that waiting till the last second is not a good idea, but for some it is the only option.  So we have taken three  possible average scenarios and broken them down for you.   All scenarios will include a family of 4 – Mom, Dad and two kids under high school age – living in the suburbs of a megaplex city…

 Scenario #1

  1. You have a few cases of water
  2. You have some freeze-dried storage food, maybe a 30 day supply.
  3. You have some sleeping bags and some basic camping supplies.
  4. You have a general idea of the area to which you want to go.
  5. You think maybe something might happen in which case you could need to get your family out of the city.
  6. All supplies are in the garage, ready to load into your minivan should the need arise.

You live in a suburban area of a mexaplex city – first and foremost, where the hell are you going to go?  If you are starting out with only a general idea of where to go, you planning to fail. Knowing exactly where you are going and a little preparation is very much in order.  Even if your plan is to squat on BLM land, National Forest Service land or private land, just having a general idea of where you are going is dangerous.  You, see, in your suburb of a megaplex area, how many other people have the same general idea?  Of those of like mind, most likely that’s a very high percentage.  So have something better than a general idea.  Know exactly where you are going and if it’s remote enough, you can hide supplies (not what you must have for survival, but that which you would like to have with you there) in the trees.  You just need a cammo cargo net and some rope.  Hoist it high into a tree, hidden by the foliage.

Here is an idea I’ve been discussing with people lately.   Call it  Free Advice:  If you have no where to go then the National Forrest my be your best bet. There are several very remote FREE National Forrest camp grounds,  that you can take advantage of.  There is one around here (20 miles away) that is very remote and almost no one comes around unless its elk season (Sept. thru Dec.).  So before you decide on a campground, check out what dates are the hunting season.  Some National Forrest campgrounds have water, some have toilet dumps, most have toilets, some have showers… I have even seen a laundrette at one, and almost no one ever using it.   The occasional park ranger will pass by. The Free campground space can by used for 14 consecutive days at a time.  Some park rangers interpret this to mean that you must leave the park others interpret it that you have to move to another  space in the same campground every 14 days.  Either way, if you had to leave the park for one day, only to return the next day, that works, too.

Next to consider is, what would prompt your leaving?  Most everyone completely ignores this one because they believe that when the time comes, they’ll “just know”.  What is needed is a clear-cut definition of what event would prompt your bugging out.  Even if you jump the gun and get to your survival location too soon, you can always go back to suburbia if you feel the coast is still clear.  Some possible guidelines would be:  war in Syria or Iran, a banking holiday, if you see military troops in your town setting up check points.

Back in the day there was an old hippie bumper sticker that said, “The Revolution Will Not Be Televised”.    It is also true that CNNFOXABCNBCCBSMSNBC et al will NOT have a news flash that says “Marshall law will be declared  in 30 minutes, so if you’re going to boogie, do it now!  Just remember, if you wait until there is clear unambiguous proof that it’s time to go, you just might find yourself in a traffic jam and no further.

For transportation, a minivan is not going to get you any place safe enough.  Consider getting something more robust, such as an older pick up truck (pre-95 is best – simple electronics, less susceptible to EMP and solar flares) with an extend-a-cab or club-cab for the kids.  The RV market has collapsed.  Prices have never been lower on used RVs of all types.  With a pickup truck you could get a cab-over camper  quite inexpensively.  These slip into the cargo area of a pick up. Most sleep 4 or more, have a toilet, shower, water storage tank, oven, range, sink, dining area a closet and cabinet space.  With the economy the way it is, watching craigslist you will find great bargains.  Most people are paying in the neighborhood of $500 for an older but still serviceable cab-over camper.  If a pick up truck is just not something you can do, then you may want to consider a Coleman-type pop-up camper, which can be towed behind even some compact cars with ease (also about $500 on craigslist).  You can use either type of camper to store everything you will need to take with you to your bug-out location, and you’ll be able to just hook up and go when it’s time, no need to think about what to bring.  It’s the ultimate “bug-out-bag”.  You can have hundreds of pounds of food and water and supplies in it, without having to crowd the supplies and the family into the minivan.

If the only  water  you have is a couple of cases, that won’t do it. A case of water is about 2-1/2 gallons of water on average.  How many cases can you carry?  If you have a cab-over or pop-up camper, both have a fresh water tank to store in the area of 150-200 gallons of water.  Check and see if the place you have chosen for your bug-out has any access to water – lake, pond, stream, river, pump, well, etc.  The average person, under Spartan conditions, can just get by on one gallon per day – 2 quarts to drink and a couple of quarts for cooking and hygiene.  Consider the water you’ll need if your food is dehydrated or freeze-dried!  So for 4 of you, with a 200 gallon water tank, you would have enough for about 50 days.

If all you have is freeze-dried or dehydrated items for food, you will want to have some items to supplement that, so that you don’t experience appetite fatigue.  We would suggest some  of the following be added to your supplies for long-term evacuation:

  • Cocoa Powder
  • Sugar
  • Coffee/Tea
  • Cooking Oil
  • Flour
  • Popcorn
  • Spices
  • Dried Fruits
  • Nuts
  • Jerkey
  • Baking Soda
  • Vinegar
  • Molasses
  • Plus any family favorites, just to break the monotony.

Also, throw into your packing some board games, deck of cards, books, etc., toilet paper and RV toilet sanitizer (blue stuff).  If you have extra jeans, socks, shirts, sneakers, shoes/boots – the clothing you can be used outdoors with ease –  as well as toiletries should also be packed.  Don’t forget to include a first aid kit.  For some of you it will be a military medic/field surgical kit, for others it will be some antiseptic and gauze and tape, depending on your skill level.

 Scenario #2

  1. You (and your family) are going to stay in your suburban home.
  2. You have 6 cases of water
  3. You have 6 cases of Dinty Moore Beef Stew and a few miscellaneous canned goods.
  4. You have a shotgun
  5. You don’t want to tell your wife and kids what may be coming up in the near future because it will rock their world.  Besides, they’ll think I’m nuts.

In this scenario, there is no need to have a bug-out time definition.  But you still need to know what to look for so that you know when to hunker down.  So, again, some pre-defined conditions bear strong consideration.  What to do, when such and such a thing happens, including a rendezvous place for children to meet you for picking up.

Food will be your biggest concern.  Let’s first deal with the  “having”.  You’ll need to have food.  Basically, nothing different than the previous scenario, although not having to consider transportation, you can store more of it.  More importantly, you’ll need to be covert.  Being in the suburbs means being around lots of people.  Lots of hungry people.  The smell of cooking can attract predators – of all kinds:  hungry neighborhood dogs and cats going feral, not to mention your neighbors, themselves, who undoubtedly are hungry.  The smell of your cooking anything is going to bring people either knocking on or breaking down your door.  What would you do if your kids hadn’t eaten in a week and you smelled food?

Cooking hot food in the suburban environment could garner you a lot of negative attention.  For these reasons, ready to eat foods (jerkey,  dried fruits and vegetables, cookies and crackers) are most desirable.  For some of you that might be military MREs.  We don’t recommend them as a steady diet – too much GMO and MSG to name a few – but in this case they may be useful against hunger while maintaining a low profile.

The power that pumps water to your house may well be disabled.  That means that you will not have water coming from your faucet, nor to your toilet for flushing.  The -Mart stores sell 5 gallon water bottles (like those used in water coolers) for about $5 each.  Get yourself as many as you can, fill them and cover them up where you have your storage items.  Refer to above scenario for daily requirements.   Also, fill all your sinks and bathtubs with water while you still have power.  Place a garbage bag over the sinks and bathtubs to keep the dust out of the water.  Often times forgotten, your water heater has a spigot at the bottom of it, from which you can access the water in there as well – usually anywhere from 20-40 gallons of additional, usable water.

Some rules about toilet water usage… “If it’s yellow, let it mellow.  If it’s brown, flush it down.”  Save the water from washing up (gray water) to use – as little as possible – to do the flushing.  Pour it into the bowl until the “brown goes down”.  If you want to pour your gray water into your toilet tank, add rocks (too large to get into the flapper hole) or bricks into the tank so that they take up some of the unnecessary water space.

Now, for these scenarios, here is a lesson in “How Not to Be Seen” (with a tip of the hat to Monty Python).   For evacuation scenarios, if you are in a very secluded part of say, the National Forest or private land, it’s a safe bet that if you encounter other people who are not part of your group, you will be encountering trouble.  So my advice would be, “if people move in, move out” and choose another camping sight.

Avoid having large, smoky fires that would attract others.  Do most of your fireside cooking during the day and avoid night time fires completely.  Also, avoid loud talking, loud music, etc.  Don’t think that because you can’t see anyone around you, it’s okay to play your Lead Zeppelin CDs at 800 decibels and no one would notice.  You would be surprised how far sound travels in the wilderness, without car noises, people noises, etc., drowning it out.

For Surburban How not to be seen, use no night time lights, even if you have plenty of candles and flashlights.  If you do need to illuminate something, do it discretely and for a short time, preferably in a room that has few windows.  It’s a good idea to put heavy drapes on your windows also, as long as there are no gaps.  Avoid going outside and therefore being noticed.  If you have a garage, put your car into it. A car parked outside lets others know there are people inside – not what you want to do.  The car battery can be used as a 12 volt power source if needed, and you can hook up a 110 AC power inverter as a house current power source.

I don’t want to tell the wife and kids what may be coming up in the future because I don’t want to shake their world”  Better to have them prepared than having to follow your instructions while they are in a panic.  Like in the movie Knowing, when the little girl’s mother panics, grabs the kids and drives madly toward a cave she knows (so does everyone else), it’s not a good situation.  It doesn’t end well.  Even if your family thinks you are a tin-foil-hat-wearing loon, if you have at least told them in advance what the trigger point would be, when that point arrives it will be that much less of a shock and they will be apt to be much more on board when the time comes.  At some point they’ll have to face it anyway.  Better they be prepared than blissfully ignorant until that point.

 Scenario #3

  1. You (and your family) are already living at our survival retreat.
  2. You are off the grid, self-sufficient and lovin’ the life!
  3. When TSHTF, it will just be another day.

Way to go!

NOTE:  If you are considering making a move but don’t know where to go, we have one more space available in our small survivalist community in New Mexico.  If you would like more information, please contact us at surviving@lavabit.com

Whether or not you are considering changing your lifestyle, please feel free to email us there with any questions you may have.  We are always happy to help others.  That’s what it’s all about, isn’t it?

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9 thoughts on “3 Last Minute Survival Scenarios

  1. Sheila, no offense, but I’m not too fond of your “surviving survivalism” scenario. Also, two things you might want to consider:

    1. You might want to learn how to spell “FOREST” correctly. Not “FORREST”.

    2. FYI: It’s been duly noted that DHS and the military already have plans to take over caves and especially NATIONAL FORESTS during the time of Martial Law as one of the first things on their “to do” list. So I wouldn’t get too comfortable with the idea of laying low in National Forest areas.

    Finally, selling people plots of land in order to survive is nothing more than a scam as far as I’m concerned.

    1. I’ll take doing something over doing nothing every time.
      As for selling land, many people are forming covenant communities for mutual protection and survival and if I had my druthers, I would prefer to live among people who think the way I do. Entrepreneurship is what made us once strong and will again. And, we are all on the same side here, right?

      1. That is exactly what I think Henry. The Loompanics Unlimited book catalogue had a article back in `05? and they called it gulching – if ya have ever heard of it. I`ll snail mail you some articles you may like Henry in the next wk .or so on this subject and other subjects. I just have to get to town and find a copy machine.

      2. While I agree with forming like-minded communities, I don’t like to see people being taken advantage of or someone profiting from it, when it entails your survival. That’s what I’m trying to get at. When in a normal functioning, non-economic crisis, it is fine to profit for something as it is the American way. But when people are barely surviving and are on the brink of civil war, this type of profiting will eventually cause a serious moral dilemma in regards to the profiting off of the misfortunes of others. No different than the corporations. It’s like saying you must pay for the food you get at the soup kitchen when you are starving to death. I know nothing in life is free, but I hope you understand where I’m coming from here.

    2. Agree with NC while not to mention Obozo put through that national preparedness act as a prequel for martial law which means the government can send in military to seize your land, supplies and everything else under authority of the US government.

  2. If its a community and its “advertised” then the bad guys..GOVT> or ROUGHIANS..know exactly where to come to get the stuff.

    Not trying to poo-poo anybodys preps..but that does concern me……its like a flashing neon sign….

    Hey…I could be wrong!

    1. Exactly! I agree with you completely, OldVet. That is also one of my complaints or criticisms about Sheila’s little idea that I forgot to bring up earlier.

  3. Hi All well and good but if you don’t want to live under the conditions consider this. I moved to Mexico 3 years ago. I live on $700.00 a month you could probably do better. I have a nice1b/r house with a yard 75 x 50. Rent $275.00US Elec. $6.00US cable, TV, Phone $30.00us visa $26.00us I picked up a 96 VW Beetle for $1,800 US spent another $1,000 the car is now like new. Or bring your own car. Its easy. I know everyone has a reason they can’t move. But if you can do it now before the border is closed as something is up. Last time through 2 months ago they had installed backscatter radar I.C.E. and military vehicles. They were not there 4 months ago. I was fortunate to sell my home in 24 days but I had owned it for 28yrs. Oh I am 1,200 miles south of the Nogales, Tucson Border and 30 miles from an International Airport. 2nd best climate in the world and the largest expat community in the world of Americans and Canadians. Should anyone need help to guide you out of the states e mail me. RJSCHOEN@JUNO.COM I will do what I can. And BTW
    To criticize a person for a spelling error when they have taken time to try and save your life is just wrong. Please contact a Dr. to check and see if you still have a heart. As you must be an expert I am sure I will see your blog up any time know. oh another friend that is in broadcasting told me that several chiefs of police have been told to prepare for Marshall Law and Civil War, Folks this is no joke anymore the train is about to come off the tracks.

    1. “To criticize a person for a spelling error when they have taken time to try and save your life is just wrong. Please contact a Dr. to check and see if you still have a heart”

      Tell that to the person who advertises to sell you land and takes advantage of your misfortunes, practically advertises her land to the DHS, who will be the first to run down there and grab the land that you paid so much for, knowing that it wasn’t safe in the first place. Especially when DHS said they would confiscate and close it off in the event of a martial law and will round your ass up and put you into a FEMA camp. So if you agree to her ways, then why don’t you go to the doctor and see if you have a heart, dumbass!

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