They have closed the commissaries at all military bases because of the shutdown. They have never done this in a government shutdown before. Why are they doing it this time? They are only doing this for effect.
Imagine the troops overseas right now in Germany and other countries. The prices for food in Europe are outrageous. Troops rely on commissaries to be able to eat at an affordable price. They are now forced to purchase their food in the towns around them. What about the PFC that has three kids and is living paycheck to paycheck? He has to go buy his chow in a German town at three times the price of the commissary.
How would you feel if tomorrow you went to buy your food and it was three times the price? Would you still want to fight for your country? They are using the military as pawns in their game. It is a game to them. But don’t worry, Congress and the Executive Branch still get their free haircuts and all the BS that they don’t earn.
They claim they are closing the stores because they can’t fund them. These are grocery stores. What the hell are they going to do with all of the meat and produce? They will have to throw it all away.
Imagine the military spouse that works at the commissary to help make ends meet. Are they getting paid? No, but the POS’s in DC that caused this are still getting their checks.
They are only doing this to hurt people and piss everyone off.
Don’t blame the Republicans alone. Blame all of them, Democrats and Republicans and the entire Executive Branch. They are intentionally hurting people to further their agenda.
I personally will never support any of these pond scum “representatives” ever again. They do not represent me in any way.
I just spoke to my daughter who is married to an Army Medic stationed at Ft. Riley. She said they are being told that they may not get paid on the 15th of this month due to the shutdown. These scumbags are going to withhold paychecks from our troops to get their point across?
How much longer are we going to put up with this?
Here a story about the commissaries closing from The Press Enterprise – by RICHARD K. De ATLEY
The commissary at March Air Reserve Base is usually a bustling marketplace for active and retired military members and their families, but on Wednesday, Oct. 2, would-be shoppers slowed as they pulled their cars into an empty parking lot with neatly corralled shopping carts and looked into the windows of a dark store.
A large sandwich-board sign near one of the entrances read: “GVMN’T SHUTDOWN COMMISSARY CLOSED.”
Military base commissaries, where eligible shoppers can buy groceries tax-free, were closed throughout the nation Wednesday, the second day of the federal government shutdown.
About 12 million people are eligible to shop at the 246 commissaries on military installations worldwide. The commissaries typically carry everything a national supermarket chain would — including brand-name products — but at much lower prices than their commercial competitors.
Non-essential federal operations stopped at midnight Monday after the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic-controlled Senate failed to reach a deal on funding the government past Oct. 1.
House Republicans want to repeal or delay the Affordable Care Act, often called Obamacare. Democrats and President Barack Obama refused. On Wednesday, Obama called Republican and Democratic congressional leaders to the White House to discuss the matter. No progress was reported.
The shutdown hit too close to home for Mitchell Geriminsky, 59, a retired Air Force veteran. On Wednesday afternoon, Geriminsky pulled up outside the March Air Reserve Base Commissary in his pickup truck and slowed to read the sign.
“This is really ridiculous,” he said.
“For them to close down and hurt the retirement community and also active-duty and reserves is ludicrous. It really is.”
Geriminsky, a Cherry Valley resident who has a business in Riverside, said he shopped at the commissary at least twice a week.
The nearby Base Exchange, which includes civilian stores, remained open Wednesday afternoon.
The military is required to sell goods at its commissaries at cost. There is a 5 percent surcharge on all products to help pay for new commissaries and improve existing ones, but no sales tax on the products sold.
Just outside the base later Wednesday, a small group of union members held signs and a banner across the street from March Air Reserve Base’s main entrance on Cactus Avenue, asking drivers to call their congressmen and urge an end to the shutdown.
The hastily organized late-afternoon protest drew only about five members of the American Federation of Government Employees Local 3854. They did their best to be noticed, holding up the union’s banner and signs urging an end to the federal government shutdown. Passing drivers honked and waved their approval.
“Unpaid Government Workers Can’t Buy Your Stuff,” one sign said.
Todd Shorack, vice-president of the local, said a long stretch of workers without paychecks will have a ripple effect on the local economy.
“So many people have been furloughed, and this local area is going to be impacted,” he said.
He said the civilian workers at March make purchases near the base, buying gasoline, patronizing restaurants and shopping in local stores.
Officials at March said Tuesday they could only disclose that more than 500 civilian employees at the base were furloughed Tuesday.
The base is one of Riverside County’s largest employers, with an estimated 8,500 workers including reservists, civilian workers and military units. Some civilian workers were retained as essential for various duties at the base.
Shorack said he is certain the number of furloughed civilians workers is much higher.
He said his union represents a variety of workers at the base and has about 280 members, including national cemetery workers, air reserve technicians who repair planes, and the American Forces Broadcast Center workers, where Shorack, a Temecula resident, says he worked until he was furloughed Tuesday.
He said the group plans to picket at the same spot from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. daily until the shutdown ends.
The Associated Press contributed to this report
My daughter just called again. Alot of the troops are talking about whether or not is a breech of contract if they dont get paid. I am sure that they worded the contract to ensure that it isnt. They are all a little mad about this. She also said that some of the civilian hospital workers are not getting paid already and still have to go to work.
Only way, seems to me, is if Obama is arrested by a part of the military…the arresting group would put their lives on the line for our country in doing so…unless the act was fully agreed to by all top brass which it wouldn’t be……….
I am not referencing this shut down when calling for his arrest…nobody is doing anything about him. he is allowed to keep destroying us all…
he has what three years left to sit there and destroy us……..thats not acceptable……
Sure its not only Obama. i know!.BUT He is the biggest part…getting that guy would be the biggest and best first step.
Alliances would then change. Courts and judges would step up….
and so forth……..
how to convince some of the military to do their job????
thats the question
“I am not referencing this shut down when calling for his arrest”
You wouldn’t have to. Obama and his adminstration, plus the other two branches of the federal government right down to the dog keeper (because they ignored the cirminal actions they KNOW about making them accomplices). Think not?
28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism: “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.
Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States or Puerto Rico without foreign direction committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.
Art 1 Dec Of Rights, Sec 18: Treason against the State consists only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies, or giving them aid and comfort. A person may not be convicted of treason except on the evidence of two witnesses to the same overt act or by confession in open court. (Obama openly supports the UN and UN”s Agenda 21 which is changing the USA from inside through stealth using zoning, etc)
Title 42 U.S.C. § 1986. Action for neglect to prevent conspiracy…
42 USC § 1983 – Civil action for deprivation of rights..
Art IV Sec 2, Clause 14 says, “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”
18 USC § 241 – Conspiracy against rights: If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
The first LAW statute of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the First Congress on 1 June 1789, was Statute 1, Chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution.
The wording of the Presidential Oath was established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8.
‘Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.”’
Murder in the First Degree – here in the USA no one in any branch of the federal or within any state governments can give themselves the power of murder, even if they try to disguise it as “assassination powers”.
ID Fraud
Election Fraud: The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form? Plus South Bend, Indiana JURY found that fraud put President Obama AND Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. (So not even lawfully the US President.)
And many more crimes including treason agaisnt the USA and her people.
For all three branches:
5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office the three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees are required to take before assuming office.
5 U.S.C. 3333 requires the three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law.
18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.
5 U.S.C. 7311 which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense for anyone employed in the United States Government to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government”.
18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.
The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 which for the purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311.
Executive Order 10450 provision specifies it is a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 for any person taking the oath of office to advocate “the alteration … of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.”
Our form of government is defined by the Constitution of the United States; so Executive Order 10450 plus 5 U.S. 7311 means that ANY act taken by government officials who have taken the oath of office prescribed by 5 U.S.C. 3331 which alters the form of government other then by amendment, is a criminal violation of the 5 U.S.C. 7311.
Title 18 US code section 2381 – Treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
18 USC § 2382 – Misprision of treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.
18 USC § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection: Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
18 USC § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Cal
glad you printed all that…
my calling for his arrest
was referring to just all that….
Besides that. the guy is not an american citizen
When you close off your life, falsify your id’s to get the job….PRES…that tells us all about him.
He belongs in jail or worse…..Seriously
It would seem the the administration is looking for a self inflicted mutiny.You can only poke a bear so many times with a stick before he has you for dinner. The troops can only take getting poked with this stick so many times also, and i would guess that the time for dinner is close at hand. The gov better be real careful at this point or they will get the wrath of the troops in spades.
Maybe the wrath of the troops is what O-dumb-ell is trying to incite so he can sic the foreign troops, who are already here, on the American troops. . . . . . . = a war in the U.S.
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Get a rope!
Mark, I’ll macrame it for him real pretty like. 😉 How many more do you want?
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use a 50 cal machine gun…as I sometimes took to the field in Vietnam………
to hell with the rope
😀 … more efficient that’s for sure.
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You may be closer to the truth than you think Cathleen.This is going to have to get kicked off somehow and soon. Could be the last mouse the cat has to catch.
I can see it now Redhorse … O-bumb-ell with his left hand on his hip, right hand limp wristed in the air … “Oh now, sthee what you made me do?”
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So the pentagon just spent 5 billion dollars on the eve of the shutdown but they can’t find any money to keep the commissary’s open?
On the other hand, I heard the Tyrant in chief’s favorite golf course is staying open…which is located on a military base. So as long as Osatan can still play golf everything is fine.
I think I’ll go braid some more rope this afternoon.
yeah, they made sure that the military contractors were paid the day before the shutdown started. Screw the troops, but the war drone builders are still funded.
You are gonna need alot of rope.
more guns! more ammo! more people behind the guns pulling the triggers.
Each of these three points is out there in our land.
Some of the US Military is going to break from this horseshit….and stand up for whats their own land too!
Interesting!!!!
My USMC father WOULD NOT have stood for this … that’s for sure!
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I’ve been through shutdowns like this with the Commissaries & Exchanges. The only one’s that get hurt are the Junior Officers & Enlisted. Those ranks get pissed off & blame the civilian sector, thus the “breech of contract” discussions which only lead to venting & nothing more.
The DoD cares nothing about Military Families. The main concern is keeping the numbers in ranks. All this sh!t about “Military Caring about Families” is window dressing to entice more enlistments.
If you have family or friends in the military, do the best & help them out with the basics to get through this government self-inflicted crisis. I’ve got family & am doing the best I can for them.
This is a GREAT example to the freeloader “me” crowd; Is the government going to help YOU when they cut your sugar teat off?
Amen Bentspear. We plan to help them out if they dont get paid. They will not have to go to ACS like alot of them will. My daughter is learning the hard way that the Army doesnt give a damn about them. I am hoping that they will NOT reenlist for some stupid bonus. Besides my son-in-law is a medic, we will need him to stitch us all up.
Give you & yours my best. Mine is in the hurtlocker; with her hubby overseas building bases where we shouldn’t. The Navy wives are pulling together to help the best they can with each other. Most of the wives work & the daycare centers are closed too. The civilian contractors employ some of these wives in the work force & are considering laying them off. The families are getting a double whammy for just serving their country.
I did find out that the Navy CPO community is trying to provide Leadership & a way for the E-3 to E-4 families to subsist short-term.
Pisses me off that they can afford a massage chair for the Monkey King when the same cost could feed a 3 person dependant family for several months.
Bentspear,
Mine hasnt had to go yet. I am hoping that they can get out before it happens.
The bastards also decided that keeping the golf courses open was more important than the commissary.
My daughter has always hated discussing anything political. She has changed her views in the last couple of days. She is learning life lessons the hard way now.Daddy wasnt as wrong as she thought I was 🙂
‘Ya gotta be crazy to volunteer to be cannon fodder for talmudic commie jew Uncle Sam. Just plum downright bat-shit crazy.
Time to stop joining the military.
Actually, LONG OVER DUE.
You aren’t “defending” this country….
You are killing innocent people in other countries, and for what?
So a few politicians can make deals and get rich?
So you can come home in a body bag?
Or worse, come home alive but missing limbs and sick with illnesses?
You want peace? STOP SIGNING UP FOR WAR.
Stay home and defend your family, neighbors, and your home town!
Who will protect them when you are gone? Or in another country?
THIS is how they pay you back for your efforts.
Take a cut in pay…lose benefits…
Geeezuz…wake up people…talk to your children about the TRUTH.
All we need is one rope. We can reuse it every 15 min for a year. Everyone left gets set on fire.
Hoe does that line from that movie go? “I love the smell of burning tyrants in the morning…smells like freedom.”