U.S. Sheriffs Rise Up Against Federal Government: Sheriff Threatens Feds With SWAT Team ~ Grass Roots Take Charge!

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1. If you want freedom, you have to back your constitutional Sheriffs. Go volunteer with them, train with them so that you know what you are doing and they know they can trust what you are going to do.

   Create civilian response teams that can be used to “wake up” veterans groups to be used to train others in areas where they might be needed (read at oathkeepers.org). There is a critical need for people to implement preparedness, security, economic independence, and local sovereignty, in their local communities as part of everyone to work at restoring first your state, then the republic.

   Volunteer with the fire department, with local sheriffs, medical training – first aid and beyond. Grow and create supplies of foods, necessary items (TP, bandages, seeds,blankets, ground covers – tarps, etc) fresh water storage so that if something happens in your area, community your community can take care of its own and send FEMA packing.

   Grow gardens, because starving people out is the first thing tyrant governments do – and it is already happening here in the USA. Notice all the laws against feeding the hungry, homeless? The homeless that have been moved “for their own safety” into FEMA camps – but not allowed to, or very rarely allowed to, leave. Shier motto is “out of sight, out of mind” no one will notice the homeless gone. Some figures say over 4,000 people have just disappeared here in the USA over the last year.

   Learn how to grow vertically, because a 4’x 4′ area can grow lots of potatoes – some has said close to 100 lbs of them. Boring fare, yes, but food is a good thing. Winter grow your root vegetables, under quick “row houses”, small individual greenhouses, etc. Can, dry, smoke, make jerky. Don’t count on freezing unless you have lots of snow around you or you make an ice house. They will cut our power.

   Teach your sheriffs, other law enforcemetn (if can), military about what is going on, their constitutional duty – send them to look at CSPOA (.org), oathkeepers.org, tenthamendmentcenter.com (learn about nullifying), http://blackboxvoting.org/ (to learn how machine voting means that it is NOT our vote that is counted), support all alternative media that you can (corbett report has one on a group that is starting to prosecute for 9/11), etc.

   Remember to list all the laws that your individual representatives – both state and federal – (by name) that they have broken and send that list explaining that you are working towards their arrest and prosecution, and as far as your concerned they are FIRED for breaking the contract they agreed to when they took office. The more letters, calls, e mails they get listing their crimes in the open, and that their arrest and prosecution, not only removal by “vote” is being worked for, the more likely they are to start taking you seriously. Key words are ARREST, PROSECUTION, CRIMES COMMITTED
   list them –

   18 USC § 241 – Conspiracy against rights: : If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
   If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured
   They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

   5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office the three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees are required to take before assuming office.

   5 U.S.C. 3333 requires the three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law.

   18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.

   5 U.S.C. 7311 (1): “An individual may not accept or hold a position in the Government of the United States of the government of the District of Columbia if he (1) advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government…” 
   Advocate: To plead in favor of: defend by argument before a tribunal or the public : support or recommend publicly. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary
   Advocate: To speak in favor of or defend by argument. To support, vindicate, or recommend publicly. Black’s Law Dictionary 

   18 U.S.C. 1918: “Whoever violates the provisions of section 7311 of title 5 that an individual may not accept or hold a position in the Government of the United States or the government of the District of Columbia if he (1) advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government [and] shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year and a day or both.” 

   Executive Order 10450: In order to instruct investigating federal officials such as the FBI as to what is a violation of the oath of office under 5 U.S.C. 3331 and 5 U.S.C. 7311, Executive Order 10450 was issued to serve as a guideline for determining what actions constituted a criminal violation of the oath of office by federal officials. The order affirms the law of 5 U.S.C. 7311 that is a criminal violation under 18 U.S.C. 1918 for a member of the government, which includes members of Congress, to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government.”

   Executive Order 10450 states (in part): “Whereas the interest of the national security require that all persons privileged to be employed in…the Government shall be reliable, trustworthy, of good conduct and character, and of complete and unswerving loyalty to the United States… it is hereby ordered as follows:
   (a) The investigations conducted pursuant to this order shall be designed to develop information as to whether the employment or retention in employment…of the person being investigated is clearly consistent with the interests of the national security. Such information shall relate, but shall not be limited, to the following:
   (4) Advocacy of use of force or violence to overthrow the government of the United States, or of the alteration of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.”

   42 USC § 1983 – Civil action for deprivation of rights …

   Check out your state laws that also apply.

   Some court cases to back up what you say:
   Rost v. Municipal Court of Southern Judicial District of San Mateo (1960): “The Legislature, either by amending or otherwise, may not nullify a constitutional provision.”

   Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, 1920: Congress … cannot by legislation alter the Constitution, from which alone it derives its power to legislate, and within whose limitations alone that power can be lawfully exercised.

   Brookfield Construction Company V. Stewart 284 F Sup. 94: “An officer who acts in violation of the constitution ceases to represent the government.”

   “Domestic enemies pursue legislation, programs against the powers of the US Constitution. They work on destroying and weakening the Rights of the People guaranteed by the Constitution. Plus they create laws, amendments, bills, etc that goes against the restraint on the three branches of our government by the Constitution. They are also those who support those in action, or by inaction; vote, voice, money, etc who are going against or trying to weaken the US Constitution and the Peoples written guarantee of the protection of those Rights.”

   Stay Safe and Detention Free All!

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   1. Cal,
      You site the Constitution and then follow up with unconstitutional statutory law as it applies to a judicial interaction between the American national and the government. There is absolutely no authority for the government of the people, by and for, to make laws that allow it to join with the people in any legal capacity. We are separate from our employees. All violations of the Bill of Rights are litigated between we the people as individuals in the court of the common law.
      Your CSPOA includes other so called peace officers outside of the elected offices. This fraudulent government does not have, nor has ever had, any zilch zip nada no authority to create laws that regulate the individual free national’s activities nor any policing agencies to enforce them.
      Your oath keepers consist of past and present members of unconstitutional entities that do and have made up the unconstitutional standing army. It also consists of past and present members of the unconstitutional treasonous policing agencies.
      Our people do need to get ready for the fight, but they need to do so as individuals, free of any collective theology.
      Arm, equip, and train as MILITIA. This movement is on the rise and has become stronger every day because we have refused collectivism and leadership that is bought off every f#@king time.
      You will quit spewing this “the state is going to save you” shit on this site or you will no longer be commenting on this site. Your call.

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      1. there is not a single cop out there that I trust in any way shape or form. The double standards that they live by is enough reason to remove them all when the shit hits the fan. They constantly break the “laws” that they force us to obey. When it all goes south, the only way they can avoid a hemp rope is to immediately remove their badge and uniform and become one of us. If they don’t do that they will be considered enemies. I used to think that we should try to become friends with the cops and bring them over, but I have learned that they are power hungry thugs that love to put the boot down on the necks of Americans. They feed on it. There may be some good cops out there, but there are enough bad ones to make me not trust any of them ever.

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         1. yep your right on the money.

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         2. Agreed Bulldog.

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         3. Exactly! The people only need to learn how to arm and defend themselves as the rest of these bastards are corrupt to the core and until I see it for my own eyes, the sheriffs are just as corrupt as the police and any other government entity. Actions speak louder than words in their case.

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   2. Have you never read the Military Oath (officers too)?

      Surely you know they have all violated their oath by not doing anyhting to stop the threat to the USA (foreign and domestic the oath states).

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      1. Exactly!

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      2. I agree, and I bring that point up a lot to oathkeepers for not pressing charges and prosecutions. But I also have to say that the organization is doing a good job educating the military as to the US Institution, and that the OATH is to support and defend it BEFORE anything else,. even a US president, or presidential orders, or the duties of their position.

         Presidents in our past have given unlawful orders that were carried out, and those that implemented them were prosecuted. This time, BOTH the president who created the orders, and the person carrying them out needs to be prosecuted.

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2. I wish this story were true, but deep down it feels more like propaganda designed to get us to trust our local commie cops and sheriff’s. There is ONLY ONE way to convince me that these people are being honest, and that is for them to actually arrest the bankers and lawyers and judges….and THEN come out in the news and tell us about how they are here to help us take back our Nation. Until then, this is all just propaganda.

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   1. I would agree…I used to teach people in Management Development that there is no such thing as “attitude” when assessing a person’s performance or productivity….because…as the “Manager” you cannot read another person’s mind, or know their complete thoughts …but you can watch what they do…and base your assessment off of their “behavior”…because that is the only tangible thing you can measure, reflect upon… and use as a basis for future improvement in performance.

      As soon as we begin to see some concrete actions on the part of these people…in support of The Constitution…and not this willingness to comply with every order…purchase every combat vehicle…take their people out of tactical gear (all the time)…stop the enforcement of unconstitutional drug laws and prohibitions…stop the enforcement of gun confiscation schemes in their county….

      …yes, I think behavior trumps “trust” every time…and we need to see some non-corrupt-behaviors before I buy into their BS…

      Regards,

      RJ O’Guillory
      Author-
      Webster Groves – The Life of an Insane Family

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      1. “and base your assessment off of their “behavior””

         Sheriff Finch went to jail and was fired by his corrupt governor because he stood up for the 2nd Amendment and released a man who had a weapon on him but committed NO crime: ” former Liberty County Sheriff on trial for official misconduct and altering evidence has been found not guilty on both counts.’

         The people (jury) stood with him despite the judge’s orders and NULLIFIED the “charges” against him and he was released and reinstated as sheriff.

         If the people do not have their back, will not go volunteer and train with them, how can they trust YOU in a life and death situation? You say go “arrest the bankers”, but most sheriffs ONLY have jurisdiction within their state.

         It is IMPORTANT for you to know the laws also, to participate as your state’s militia – REQUIRED by the US Constitution and should LAWFULLY be required by all state constitutions – but a few have dropped that about 10 years ago. The militia is EVERY able-bodied person over the age of 18. They are required to train, and who better to train with then those sheriffs that are CONSTITUTIONAL and with veterans who are keeping their oath.

         That way you learn more about them, they learn where you would be useful of if you are even someone they would take into a dangerous situation such as arresting a corrupt governor, A.J., etc.

         Think I am mistaken? Let me quote to you from the US Constitution about the legislative branches duty to each state’s militia:

         US Constitution, Preamble to the Bill of Rights – which makes it very clear that the US Constitution sets limits on those who serve within the federal government: “… a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added…”

         Constitution of the United States of America, Article I, Section. 1: ALL legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

         This says that there is NOT one executive order, no matter what president wrote it, that is lawful here in the USA. With your training and constitutional sheriffs it means that NONE of them can be implemented within YOUR state – if you’re knowledgeable about it. Remember that the representative in congress or senate for YOUR state is under both the state and the US Constitution. They an be, and should be, held accountable.

         US Constitution, Article I, Section. 8, Clause 11: “To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water”.

         This says that the congress has the duty to grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal – which is using private citizens in their own privately owned crafts to defend the USA and her people. It has been used in our past MANY times to defend our nation, and to defend states.

         Clause 12: “To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years”.

         The money that the congress has illegally spent beyond the lawfully allotted time of two years of supporting a “standing military” must be returned to the people. It was/is a misappropriation of funds (misappropriation n. the intentional, illegal use of the property or funds of another person for one’s own use or other unauthorized purpose, particularly by a public official…)

         “To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years” is really straightforward, and no misunderstanding of the words can be used as an excuse for disobeying that duty. No standing army except in times of war, and ONLY the congress can declare *war. War must be declared by congress to be a lawful war the US military are used to fight in.

         War cannot lawfully be “declared” against a tactic such as the “war against terror” or the “war against drugs”; both are not wars and not even the congress can declare a war against a tactic.

         (*War defined: ‘Open and declared conflict between the armed forces of two or more states or nations’. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/war)

         Clause 12 was put in as a duty of the congress because, as James Madison, the Father of the US Constitution warned: “No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare”.

         Clause 15 requires the congress: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and REPEL INVASIONS”.

         The militia belongs to each state, and can be “borrowed” by the feds to defend the nation from both domestic enemies and foreign enemies until an army can be raised.

         Clause 16 also makes clear that the ARMING OF THE MILITIA OF EACH STATE is a duty the congress is REQUIRED to carry out:

         “To provide for organizing, ARMING, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”.

         The US Congress is under the obligation by the supreme law of this land to arm each state’s militia with the type of arms that will “repel invasions”- the same arms as the modern military uses. Each state has the duty to train the militia in the proper use of those arms.
          
         The question arises often – “Are you saying that the State Militia should have jet fighter-bombers?”  I personally believe that it goes with each State’s militia since the Airforce had its beginnings in the Army as the Army Aircorp. But planes, missiles, drones, etc, all are what the militia needs and must be trained in, everything and anything that an attacking force might use against the USA!

         If they might be used against us here in the USA by enemies foreign or domestic, then it is exactly what each state’s militia LAWFULLY must be supplied with by the congress; and trained in the use of by each state.

         Then you can also be fighting to ban or nullify everything that is NOT constitutional in your state; NDAA, Patriot Act, TSA, Obamacare – yeah, I have read it 3 times, and am partway through a fourth time because they unlawfully change it often, etc.

         Carry a pocket US Constitution and YOUR state’s Constitution with you, plus write down a few key laws that are felonies such as:

         18 USC § 241 – Conspiracy against rights: If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
         If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured
         They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

         42 USC § 1983 – Civil action for deprivation of rights …

         5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office the three branches of our government, the military, ALL law enforcement, the heads of the States, ALL federal employees are required to take before assuming office.

         5 U.S.C. 3333 requires the three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law.

         18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office AND (2) confinement or a fine.

         The Bill of Rights are unalienable rights – “Those rights, then, which God and nature have established, and therefore called natural rights, such as life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, no human legislature has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture (commits a crime, then when the punishment is served, their natural rights are there again, unmodified or altered).”

         Inalienable rights: “a right according to natural law, a right that cannot be taken away, denied, or transferred”

         As always, be careful when you present things to law enforcement or TSA or DHS, or any federal agency. It has been shown that they have been deliberately hiring those officers who got into trouble for violence against the public, etc .. THUGS, CRIMINALS. So stay safe and life to fight for our freedom anther day! Pick a good time to talk with them about THEIR lawful duty to the highest LAW of your state – your state Constitution (!) and the US Constitution and all that is in PURSUANCE thereof it WHEN it applies.

         Stay Safe and Detention Free all!!!

         I do write to my representatives, both state and federal and list the crimes that they have committed and let them know that I, and others, are fighting for their arrest and prosecution. If the crimes qualified as treason or First Degree murder (“assassination powers”) I tell them I am also going to fight that they get the death penalty. So if I ever stop posting here, you will know why … lol.

         But if we shut up, they win. If we do not prepare, train, store food for our families and also for others then they win.

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         1. “If the people do not have their back, will not go volunteer and train with them, how can they trust YOU in a life and death situation? You say go “arrest the bankers”, but most sheriffs ONLY have jurisdiction within their state.”

            Then what’s to stop the sheriffs from arresting the bankers WITHIN their State? Tell them to do their job if you believe in them so much. Duh!

            Keep pushing that foot in your mouth,Cal.

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            1. Actually, the problem with the bankers are not necessarily the “bankers” within your state. They are the Federal Reserve and the higher ups in the major banks.

               Your sheriff cannot arrest them UNLESS a crime is committed by a person working in the local bank.

               It is okay to comment, and I will answer and try to inform you of the laws, will even quote YOUR state’s constitution if you need me to. But it also means that you should take the responsibility to learn YOUR state’s Constitution because it IS the highest law in your state, and just as important or more so, it says EXACTLY what those who are in your state government can and canNOT do.

               If you are telling your sheriff to break the law that the sheriff is sworn to uphold and mad at them that they will not – is NOT their fault. Yet it seems that you want to hold it against them.

               Make the effort to learn the highest laws in the USA and the highest laws in your state. Because if you do not, you might get someone injured or killed for no real lawful reason. As long as you are upholding and demanding that they uphold OUR laws – no one can fault those of us for DEFENDING our nation from domestic enemies and traitors. But they can for other things. It is important to require by phone calls, writing, e mailing that they uphold the laws. Also fight to NOT have any machine voting in your state – they are corrupt and very easily commit election fraud which is why they are used. They also then have the “count” out of the USA with no way for those counts to be verified.

               TRAIN, learn, pass on the knowledge, STAY SAFE.

         2. I agree…nice review as well…however…the examples of independence among law enforcement have been few and far between during my 53 years on the planet…and I hope as you seem to indicate..that there are LEO’s who will stand with the people….well then…”We The People” need quite a bit more example -setting as you described….then we may begin to try to be trusting…perhaps…

            Regards,

            RJ

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            1. Thanks RJ.

               I agree with your assessment of most sheriffs, which is why I say to talk to them and see if they are going to be constitutional sheriffs. IF they say they are – get donations to send them to the CSPOA for training – peer pressure and friends with and among other Constitution supporting sheriffs and law enforcement will assist them in knowing their duties, that they are NOT standing alone, how to carry out their duties in a LAWFUL manner, etc.

               Sheriffs are people, good and bad. Peer pressure works on them, as did the “blue line” mentality that was fostered upon them to get them separated from the people they were to serve. It was Deliberately done.

               See of you can get them back to being US & state LEO’s; instead useful tools for those destroying our nation and to be used for “depopulation”.

               Sheriff Arpaio has over 4000 militia he can count on. Your CONSTITUTIONAL sheriff can always use the militia to assist in law enforcement, emergency assistance, etc – trained of course. No more federal funds for them to “jump through federal hoops for” like a trained dog. They need to get their pride and self-respect, plus their honor back – if they had any to begin with, some do not – and fight FOR this nation, for your state.

         3. Cal,
            THERE IS NO CONSTITUTION! It is an open contract. We are living in a failed state. To think that law that doesn’t exist can be used to correct the situation is ridiculous. It is like passing more laws that say the same things as the ones that are not being enforced.
            Face it buddy, it is fight or die.

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            1. You are incorrect.

               The US Constitution has a lawful way for it to be discontinued, which has NOT been done. You misunderstand what is going on and are buying into the enemies – of the USA and the American people – propaganda.

               The US Constitution and the Constitution’s of each state – OUR way of government – is under attack by both domestic enemies and traitors, plus foreign enemies.

               It is not gone as long as one America is fighting for it, and I can tell you this, even when they MURDER me, I will do my best to still fight on for this country is the ONLY country where the people can be armed. Where they can defend themselves LAWFULLY from corrupt and traitorous people within our nation. Where FREEDOM can really ring.

               Admittedly the attack and propaganda has been going on for a long time, but this time when we win, they will be PROSECUTED no matter who they are or what position they are occupying. A lot who committed treason will get the death penalty. Agencies and corporations that assisted in treason against the USA will lose every building and piece of equipment they have – an I hope we give it to those who STOOD FOR our nation.

               ALL (ALL) involved at whatever level, even those who “just followed orders” or “was just doing their jobs” – like at Nuremberg – will also be prosecuted for their crimes against the USA and her people because it could not have happened if they did not willingly assist them and carry out their orders. I do not care if it was assistance in election fraud, law enforcement, fire department, the post man or any other federal or state worker.

               You see, it IS their fault. None of what is going on could not happen without their giving in to them, or never questioning their orders, etc. The traitors could NOT do it without those “dupes” and one day those “dupes” will pay for it. It is the only way to make it stop for a VERY long time – make an example of all. Teachers who are teaching our children to be “good citizens and “comrades”, good obedient workers, letting them believe the Bill of Rights (written wrongly in the Core school books) is correct, etc.

               We are NOT the “homeland” that was Nazi Germany. It is a BAD word in our dictionary. Why do you think the DHS has it in the name? Are you aware of who created the UN?

            2. These insurgents now occupy our highest seats of power. The only reason we still have our guns is because there are enough of us to kill them if they try to take them. Our rights were won at the barrel of a gun and they are maintained at the barrel of a gun. We cannot address this situation through operation of law, as there is no f#@king law, as the contract is breached which contains the law. This is open war, just like it was back in 1775. Their will against ours. The law we have to enforce is the only law they cannot touch and that is the Bill of Rights and it cannot be enforced through an enemy court as that would require enemy acquiescence and there will be no surrender until there has been a fight. No US statute or state statute applies to an American national and this indeed is what this gunfight will be about, as these statutes, policies, and so called laws are the infringements. And when this whole thing is over, they will no longer exist.
               Citing statutes that are for the government to enforce upon itself is completely ridiculous. The issue is simple, our individual rights and the infringements thereupon.
               I will not attempt to untangle a ball of spaghetti. I will simply wipe it from the table and into the trash where it belongs as it should never have existed in the first place. Once we as individuals enforce our Bill of Rights, all else will be corrected as a consequence.

         4. You cite so many laws and regulation even providing examples in some instances.

            You show where the laws have been breached and even ignored.

            However you have failed to show a feasable solution aside from colorfully saying it cannot be done / should not have been done as if that makes everyhitng OK.

            Gov thugs come in contact with someone & they should simply say “you can’t do (that)” because it is not legal (etc). Such is not a feasible option & far from a solution.

            Words do not protect Joe Citizen from armed Gov thugs. Again, to think otherwise far surpasses idiocy.

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            1. I agree.

               But words can change a person who was taught incorrectly what the “law” is and what their duty is.

               Are you aware that may LEO’s believe that they have to follow orders? Many military believe that their oath is to “support” the US president – which they are NOT.

               Military:
               “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

               All of this: “”I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; ” says what their duties are to the US Constitution, and it is listed FIRST in order of importance.

               Notice that obeying orders of a president and obeying orders of an officer above their rank is listed after the US Constitution, with less words, and put in the SAME section along with “according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice” which says it MUST be a LAWFUL order that is obeyed.

               How do they tell a lawful order, by comparing it to the Bill of Rights.

               All US presidents are held to a higher standard then everyone else in the lawfully REQUIRED oath they take:

               “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, PRESERVE, PROTECT and DEFEND the Constitution of the United States.”

               Everyone else:
               “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will SUPPORT AND DEFEND the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

   2. If right now,..every day they allow unconstitutional crap ,..ordinances…bogus statutes and other Bullsheet to continue and never stand up…
      Are we to believe that somehow some magical way these bastards are going to suddenly stand up and do the RIGHT thing on gun confiscation and Martial Law when the tide turns ugly?
      Thats A fools folly at best!

      All this talk about working and training and teaching LEO’s about the “truth”,..volunteering to help them out and such other crap is BS too.

      Nearly every time a Citizens group,..or Militia Group extends their hand to “help”,…the hand gets bitten off. Dont put your trust in government to ensure your rights……..its your responsibility.

      As diggerdan says……never ever trust a F@&king COP

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   3. Exactly what I’m thinking, Michael. As I said before, “Actions speak louder than words”. Enough talk, DO and ENFORCE! Then we’ll talk about backing them up.

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3. RE: “At the northern California fairgrounds of Yreka last month, seven California sheriffs and another from Oregon gathered with a large group of citizens to say that they are finally going to do something about it.”

   http://www.defendruralamerica.com/DRA/Sheriffs.html

   These Sheriffs in Northern California and Southern Oregon have been working together now for at least a year or two that I’m aware of.
   . . .

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4. I believe those sheriffs are in the county’s of California and Oregon that are talking about seceding from the state and becoming a new state. I know that this has been talked to death over the years and will probably never happen but if it did maybe they might make a difference. However to trust them without any proof that they will stand behind their oath is just plain crazy.

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   1. Yep REDHORSE, I am kind of thinking that these sheriffs are getting scarred because they know that the sh!t is going to hit the fan soon and they want to be on our side and I personally do not trust them one bit either

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5. Well, what happen to the fighter pilots who were on their way to defend
   the USS Liberty and then were ordered by a communist LBJ, McCain,
   McNamara to return. US laws, the laws the Sixth Fleet served under,
   were to defend and protect American troops. This was treason in its
   most callous form but nobody was sentenced to death or even imprisoned.
   If the Sixth Fleet would have followed thru with their duty, this could never
   be construed as mutiny.

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