As of Sunday, November 11, 2012, 18 states have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to “create its own new government”. These petitions were created just days after the 2012 presidential election.
Louisiana was the first State to file a petition a day after the election by a Michael E. from Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas. The government allows one month from the day the petition is submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.
The Texas petition reads as follows:
The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, theTSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.
As of 6:39 pm, Sunday, the following are petition links and signature counts are:
Louisiana, 10,296; Texas, 9196; Florida, 2392; Alabama, 2492; North Carolina, 2434; Kentucky, 1934; Mississippi, 1935; Indiana, 1951; North Dakota, 881; Montana, 1538; Colorado, 1805; Oregon, 1594; New Jersey, 1492; New York, 1727; South Carolina, 117; Arkansas, 86; Georgia, 131; Missouri, 149.
Many more States are expected to follow.
This article has been updated from this one at The Examiner.
http://iroots.org/2012/11/11/18-states-petition-to-secede-from-us-links-included/
Update from Market Daily News: There are now 20 States petitioning to secede.
They are as follows: Louisiana, Texas, Kentucky, Colorado, New Jersey, New York, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Oregon, Arkansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Michigan, and Missouri all filed petitions to secede from the United States.
Thaaaaaaank Gaaaaawwwwwd!!!!!!!………..
This is being done by individuals not the state. Also, you dont ask to do this, YOU DO IT.
Right –
I’ve been doing it for years.
Yea, haven’t you ever heard of Schumachersylvania!?
I do think it’s interesting that it appears to be roughly the same ~13,000 people signing the petitions for all of the states. E.g.: There are a bunch of people from Kentucky that have signed the petition for Colorado…. Again, these are individuals asking the federal government to consider their proposal. Can you imagine if the President and Congress responded to this with “Sure, Louisiana, you’re no longer part of the Union. Goodbye and good luck!” Now THAT would be a mess…
Charles,
Your comment is a little sketchy,
If you think states aren’t going to fight for secession then your living on a different planet. Those signatures don’t mean squat. Why don’t you get your ass over to Staten Island and see how many of those folks want the hell out.
Jesus where do you idiots come from anyway? Unbelievable. The only way that there is going to be any kind of meaningful change is for a majority of the states to stand and fight to get the hell out.
The Constitution has never been shredded as bad as this, it’s like it no longer exists. We are all living on a different planet.
Texas will stand and fight first, watch and learn Charles. Arizona will be right behind them.
I’m watching this one and posting on my LJ and Twitter (@benjammindeth). Add Tennessee to the list with 515 as of 11/11/2012 13:30 PST.
Where do I sign!!
Links on both LJ and Twitter accounts.
Doesn’t this happen after every presidential election?
No
I think MN should also be in the partitions…or they need to impeach him for the Benghazi incident….he knew when all that nasty stuff was going on….he needs to go think a monkey could do a better job!
I have been talking to my congressman in reference to putting in Virginia’s seperation papers in. It is about time we in Virginia do the same thing. Since we do have a President that doesn’t want to do what the majority of the people want, then we all must consider this. Barack Hussien Obama is taking America down a road that is Not, and has Nothing to do with America, he seem’s to have forgotten that America is run by a Constitution, I think he is attempting to remove the Constitution while replacing the Constitution with something else such as Sharia Law, or something close to it. In any case, This President is lost in his own little world, the world that he has made up in his mind since he was a little boy, when he told his postman that one day he was going to be president, and that he has had his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis training him on his perfect government, and since his training days he has perfected that government of his mind, and now it is his time to put it to work, in the mean time the United States has given this President four years, and now that the Citizens has seen this president’s direction, the States in United, is not in agreement, making it difficult to stay as fifty in One.
Barry Soetoro is a communist and that is what he has brought to the United States. I will not live under Sharia Law or any other draconian dictate. But make no mistake, what we are looking at is Fabian socialism – queers, women, and children exercising control over the men. This is how communism was brought to the USSR verbatim. The Muslims need to go home, at least those who want to live under Sharia Law.
But be it made clear that when you are talking about Barack Hussein Obama AKA Barry Soetoro AKA Barry the Rat the south side of Chicago back alley Marxist, it is COMMUNISM!!!!
Obama? Soetoro? How about Davis Jr. Watch “Dreams from my real father”, directed by Joel Gilbert. You’re right about the Marxist, Communist, Socialist, Bolshevik, BiSexual, Psychopathic Lying Mulatto.
THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA have just officially petitioned the US Government for Virginia to Peacefully Secede from the United States of America to form a NEW Government. this is the link to sign the Petition https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-virginia-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/L7DMG8hX
@European American, as far as I know, this has never happened after any presidential election. Nothing like this has happened since right before The War of Northern Aggression (i.e. the so-called Civil War).
Let’s hope they all can get the signatures. But then what happens with the petitions? Who decides what?
DRONE ATTACK? NDAA?- INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Splintered beams and boards on a piece of charred earth were all that remained Sunday where three Indianapolis homes were leveled in a blast that killed two people and rendered homes for blocks uninhabitable.
Either a gas leak or a bomb!
I am suprised that they are not blaming it on a meth lab – they always like to blame a big explosion on a terrorist attack or a meth lab ya know, or so it seems now days.
I don’t get this. Why petition to the government for anything … we are already free. Right? I mean papers claiming Sovereignty have been filed from many of the states with the Hague … so I hear.
No Arizona? Guess I’ll be leaving CA for MT then.
Like the great Janis Joplin says – Freedom is just another word if it is not free. I think that is from her Me and Bobby Magee song, by the way.
Wrong. We’ve been living in a Fascist police state since 9/11, at the very least. Others would say even longer, and I would agree.
As far as CA not being on the list so far, that probably won’t last much longer. I haven’t signed any petitions for a long time (due to the uselessness of doing such), but this one I will DEFINITELY sign.
I’m actually REALLY surprised New York is on the list. Being that my hometown is Buffalo, NY, they are the most liberal and pro-democratic in almost all of the U.S. If it means giving more socialism, food stamps, protection or free rides to themselves and other the low-life bums, they would never think to secede as they are more than happy with what the government can give to them. If they had FEMA camps set up, they would be the first to jump into the camp for a free ride to more Socialism/Communism. Strange. Although, this is how I thought they would think BEFORE FEMA and the National Guard decided to shut down their offices due to weather issues the other day. Now, I’m not so sure as some of them may have actually started to wake up. However, I emphasize only “some”.
Also, given the fact that you have Bloominidiot running things in NYC itself, anything is possible.
If ‘only some’ means ‘more’…..AND they actually DID wake-up…then it’s a good thing, even if it’s ‘only some’.
~Blessed Be to all~
You know, maybe this is what Obama or the elite meant when they said “By next year, the U.S. as we know it, will be no more.” Maybe it will be the Confederate States of America split with the Socialists States of America or something or, more likely, another Civil War, as most of us have been alluding to these past few months. Who knows.
Petitioning the White House for “permission” to secede? Are you all out of your minds? You’re only giving obummer a list of people to add to his enemies list, and you’re liable to be labeled a terrorist, or enemy of the state. You should be petitioning your state legislators instead.
SERIOUSLY???
Too late. We’re already flagged and tagged as “domestic terrorists” by our so-called ‘government’, just for posting on this site alone, if for no other reason.
Oh, and btw……….so are you now.
This is man is not my president. Obama does not represent American values.
Government is a reflection of the “collective consciousness” of the people.
“Obama does not represent American values.”
Maybe not your values, maybe not my values. But he certainly represents values of the “New” America, whether we like it or not.
So Democrats and Republicans in the local states, are disagreeing with the Democrats and Republicans that run the federal government. Or are they helping it by supplying the trigger to enable Obama to “Go Forward”?
The unity of the union starts to get endangered.
Isn’t that one of the defined triggers for federal Martial law?
Yep and for another Civil War. Lincoln wanted to protect the Union at all cost and prevent it from separating. Our president and his mafia are starting up the separation of states in order to declare martial law and protect the Union, in which they started it all to begin with in order to finally establish full control over everyone.
Problem – Reaction – Solution.
We are tired of the Federal Government pushing us around with their strict laws that do not benefit anyone but themselves, we are losing the war on drugs, we are writing these petitions in order to send them a message!
What message? A kind message that a child writes to his father after his father beats the shit out of him for no reason? Yea, I’m sure the mafia fathers of our country will break down in tears and apologize and change their ways, just for you. Don’t be so naive, akoon.
Dang, you beat me to it. 🙂
” we are losing the war on drugs”
There is no war on drugs, there is a war of the elite/burocrats on rights, contractual rights/acknowledgements. Being “high” as one possible way for personal pursuit of happiness.
“we are writing these petitions in order to send them a message!”
You don’t have to send and write petitions to transfer messages.
The Founders wrote a contract between the government and the people. The contract that the government has to hold up for its end to be acknowledged by the people.
Its like your boss, writing a contract to pay you say $800 for 40 hours of work. And you agreeing to keep your end of the contract to work 40 hours for that $800. Now what are you going to say and do, if your employer one sided says, I am going to pay you from now on $400 for your 40 hours? Are you bound by that contract? Are you going to petition your boss, for something he does with intend? Are you going to “message” him something that he drops without further thought in the garbage bin?
Now they only have to get you to think that the Constitution and Bill of Rights are a thing of the past. No longer valid. Coming to think of it. I think that is already a passed station and achieved, since you are now begging for acknowledgement of Rights that at one time were as normal as breathing air.
“Its like your boss, writing a contract to pay you say $800 for 40 hours of work. And you agreeing to keep your end of the contract to work 40 hours for that $800. Now what are you going to say and do, if your employer one sided says, I am going to pay you from now on $400 for your 40 hours? Are you bound by that contract? Are you going to petition your boss, for something he does with intend? Are you going to “message” him something that he drops without further thought in the garbage bin?”
I’ll have you know from working in China as a contract teacher for 5 years, that this is EXACTLY what they do to you. No lie. They try to find any way to save a penny and not fulfill their end of the contract by saying things like, “Well, we’ve been friends for so long. Just do this one thing this one time for us” and you do it and then they tell you that it went well and that you should continue to do it and even though it will take more of your freedom and terms of the contract away through their conditioning process. South Korea and Vietnam are actually notorious for doing the same thing, (Not North Korea) which is why many people have trouble finishing their teaching contracts there. It’s just like how Obama takes more of our Constitution away as he slowly boils the frog. Same tactic is done in Communist China everyday.
Obama administration with DHS says, “We’ll only have TSA at airports” and then they have them everywhere now or “we won’t have drones in our country” and then they slowly condition the people by saying, “Well we will just use it to help the police survey the scene”. Pretty soon they will be bombing us as well. Pure proof that the U.S. is no longer a Republic, but is now under the form of a Communist dictatorship and the sheeple who have never been out of the country, let alone zipcode in their entire life don’t see how our country really is and has become.
Like I always tell people, “You have to go out of the country in order to see how your own country really is within.”
OR
as the old saying goes, “In order to see from within, you have to see from without.”
And once again, it brings me to my favorite saying, “A warrior who only knows one side, leaves himself open for destruction.”
Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Representatives and State Militias that support Secession?
Could Obama use NDAA To Arrest Secessionists on the Premise members are Militants and Belligerents that pose a threat to National Security?
Recently the Obama administration stated to Federal Judge Katherine Forest that under (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 the President had authorization to lock up belligerents indefinitely. That they (were justified) to lock belligerents up indefinitely—because cases involving belligerents directly-aligned with militants against the good of America—warrants such punishment.) Pres. Obama could use NDAA provisions to order U.S. Military Forces to round up without evidence, millions of Americans including Secessionists and Militias by alleging they are belligerents or a threat to National Security. Many observers believe Obama intends to extend NDAA to imprison U.S. Citizens in Indefinite Detention not involved with or associated with enemy forces.
Hitler included similar provisions in his fascist (Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933). Almost immediately after the German Parliament passed Hitler’s laws, the Reich Government ordered the arrest of German Citizens and confiscated their guns without probable cause or evidence; delegated powers to German Police and other authorities to arrest anyone Nazi authorities claimed attempted or incited public unrest: arrested among others were outspoken Germans, writers, journalists, peaceful protestors and artists. After World War II the East German Secret Police (Stasi) used the threat of Indefinite Detention to forcibly recruit thousands of informants.
The U.S. 2012 NDAA legislation Obama signed 12-31-11 is similar to Hitler’s 1933 fascist laws the SS and Gestapo used to target persons in Germany for arrest, imprisonment and execution without probable cause; and confiscate millions of dollars of property. Hitler used his laws to suspend Parliament and the Supreme Court insuring his laws could not be rescinded.
During the Obama Administration’s recent request for a (stay) to stop U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocking enforcement of vague NDAA provisions, the Obama Administration—never clarified what constitutes a (belligerent); or militant; or what belligerent activities (directly aligned with a militant) to order a belligerent’s arrest or indefinite detention; or what is against the good of America. Under vague provisions of NDAA, the President could accuse anyone of being (directly aligned with militants by way of any political or other association; activity, statement, writing or communication with an individual or group government deemed (militant) to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans. Writers, journalists, Americans that disagree with or question U.S. Government or its allies—may under NDAA be subject to arrest and indefinite detention.
NDAA 2012, like Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Decrees enforces censorship; refers to the Patriot Act e.g. warrant-less searches of private property and forfeiture of property from persons not charged with crime. Provisions in NDAA 2012 keep the door open for corrupt U.S. police; government agents and provocateurs which there are many, to falsify reports and statements to target any American, group or organization for arrest, indefinite detention, complete disappearance; civil asset forfeiture of their property.
You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act. The Patriot Act lends itself to Government / police corruption; the Federal Government may use secret witnesses and informants to cause arrests and civil asset forfeiture of Americans’ property. Witness(s) and informants may be paid up to 50% of assets forfeited. Federal Government under 18USC may use a mere preponderance of civil evidence, little more than hearsay to Civilly Forfeit Private Property. Under the Patriot Act innocent property owners may be barred by government knowing the evidence federal government uses to forfeit their property.
Sections of NDAA 2012 are so broad, it appears U.S. Government or the President could (retroactively) deem an American’s past 1st Amendment activities prior to passage of 2012 NDAA—supported hostilities, terrorism or (Belligerents) to order the arrest and Indefinite Detention of any U.S. Citizen, writer, group or organization.
Under NDAA 2012 it should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated, not allowed legal counsel or habeas corpus may be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.
Yep, there is only one big open parameter, that even Obama, his thugs, the bough of or blackmailed senators and congress man are uncertain of.
How many Americans will the moment he tries to go for the Surpass Hitler/Stalin awards, support it actively or act like it is non of their concern? And how many will state their Pledge of Allegiance to the Constitution and will fight him/them as domestic enemies to the document that defines what an American is.
And the moment he revokes the 1st since Congress can’t/is forbidden to do it. Or makes it retroactively punishable to use said right.
The pledges are spoken.
A few for the dictator, most for the Document.
Where is Ca?
Hiding under Jerry Browns dress.
California would have to split the State. The West side remain in Democrats trenches, the East Side leave the Union. That would be a miracle.
California would have to split the State. The West side remain in the Democrat trenches, the East Side leave the Union. That would be a miracle.
It’s a 4chan troll joke no one is really siging this while yes there were some that signed it before but 4chan made it explode that is why you are seeing the numbers you are now.
Secession petitions are good PR but bad politics. There is a way for states to legally and politically secede from the American union but it must be a state-by-state process established by constitutional secession conventions in each state. Read: http://thedailybell.com/28286/Ron-Holland-Secession-Petitions-Good-PR-But-Bad-Politics
The state count is now up to 47! I have links to all of the petitions here:
stevemeadedesigns(dot)com/board/topic/155641-individuals-from-47-states-start-petitions-to-secede-from-the-us/