The Recent Deadly Boeing Crash No One Is Talking About

Intelligencer – by Jeff Wise, March 20, 2019

A few weeks ago a Boeing jet was maneuvering near an airport when it abruptly nosedived and plowed into the ground at tremendous speed, killing everyone aboard. This was not the Ethiopian Airlines crash on March 10 that has transfixed the world, however. It was an American plane, a 767, and its destruction in a muddy bay near Houston remains even more mysterious and, consequently, potentially more disturbing in its long-term implications. 

At 12:30 p.m. on February 3, Atlas Air Flight 3591 was near the end of a flight from Miami to Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport, carrying cargo for Amazon and the U.S. Postal Service. Two pilots were at the controls and another was riding as a passenger. A band of stormy weather lay across the route, and as the plane was descending from 8,500 feet, air traffic control advised the pilots to turn left from a northerly heading, in order to get around a band of precipitation. A different controller then said that they’d be given vectors to clear skies. One of the pilots replied, “Okay.”

A few seconds later, the plane hit a patch of rough air. For reasons that are unknown, the flight crew throttled the engines up to full thrust, and then after the plane pitched slightly up, pushed the controls sharply forward until the plane was descending at a 49-degree angle — about what you’d encounter on the steepest of ski runs. The plane kept diving, even as cockpit warning systems called for the pilots to pull up. Security-cam footage shows the plane plummeting from 6,000 feet:

Eighteen seconds after the trouble started, the plane smashed into the muddy waters of Trinity Bay, killing everyone aboard.

preliminary report by the National Transportation Safety Board on the incident caused a stir when it cited “control input” as the cause for the steep dive. Was this a case of pilot suicide, like the Germanwings pilot who programmed his Airbus A320 to fly into the side of a mountain in 2015? But it’s hard to imagine that, in the midst of trying to maneuver through and around bad weather, a pilot suddenly decided to commit suicide.

A revised version of the NTSB report changed the language to “a nose-down elevator deflection,” which seemed to move responsibility away from the human pilots and raised the possibility that a malfunction, perhaps of the autopilot, could have been responsible. But there are no known autopilot modes that would behave like this.

In online pilot discussion forums, a third idea has been gaining adherents: that the pilots succumbed to a phenomenon called somatogravic illusion, in which lateral acceleration due to engine thrust creates the sensation that one is tipping backward in one’s seat. The effect is particularly strong when a plane is lightly loaded, as it would be at the end of a long flight when the fuel tanks are mostly empty, and in conditions of poor visibility, as Atlas Air 3591 was as it worked its way through bands of bad weather.

The idea is that perhaps one of the pilots accidentally or in response to wind shear set the engines to full power, and then believed that the plane had become dangerously nose-high and so pushed forward on the controls. This would cause a low-g sensation that might have been so disorienting that by the time the plane came barreling out of the bottom of the clouds there wasn’t enough time to pull out of the dive.

It has been speculated that this might have been the cause of another bizarre and officially unsolved accident from three years ago: Flydubai Flight 981, which crashed 2016 in Rostov-on-Don, Russia. That plane had been returning Russian vacationers from Dubai when it encountered bad weather and was unable to land. After circling for an hour and a half, the pilots attempted to land, then aborted the attempt, came around again for another attempt, and then aborted again. After climbing sharply, the plane pitched forward into a steep dive and smashed into the edge of the runway, killing all 62 people aboard.

The crash of two 737 Max airplanes — Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 and Lion Air Flight 610 — in quick succession is horrific, but in a way, this kind of disaster shows how the system is supposed to work: a mishap occurs, officials determine what happened, and then the problem is fixed so that future air travel will be safer. While it’s still too early to draw any kind of conclusions about Atlas Air 3591, the possibility exists that a firm conclusion will never be drawn — and if it is, the cause could turn out not to be a design flaw or software malfunction that can be rectified, but a basic shortcoming in human perception and psychology that cannot be fixed as long as humans are entrusted with the control of airplanes.

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4 thoughts on “The Recent Deadly Boeing Crash No One Is Talking About

  1. You cant believe a godamned thing you read anymore, this was Amazon cargo so God only knows what was really going on here. Pilot might have been paid to T BONE the plane for what ever fkg reason, if it was suicide why would he do it directly over an airport?

    Look at this like this.

    The 737 MAX has just been grounded, billions lost, so if there is/was another software problem with the 767 as well, you know goddamned well they wouldn’t admit it. The location of this crash tells me software, but who am I just another broke Goy right? who happens to hold a commercial pilots liscense.

    Something stinks here. Software is extremely important when close to an airport, the flight computer is busiest at this time.

  2. There is definitely more to this story than we are being told

    Also
    When on a Northerly heading “left “ would be said as West( not left) and usually given a compass heading

    And after the controllers orders “okay” is not the correct professional response
    You repeat back what you were told , with your call sign and an indication you are following those directions ( maybe they were simplifying for the news story I don’t know )

    Rough air , you don’t stress the airframe by throttling up , steady as she goes or even in some cases back off , and fly the dam airplane

    The dive was probably because the stupid fck pilot over stressed the aircraft and broke something by throttling up in turbulence ( again turbulence not “rough air”)
    Than they say “wind shear “ well which one was it
    Turbulence or wind shear?

    So , did this pilot only have 200 hours in type ?
    Like the Ethiopian 737M8?

    Is this another case of inexperienced pilots at the helm ?

    Hey Bezos , are you planing on destroying the air freight business, like yer trying with the trucking industry?
    By not paying the truly skilled what they are worth and putting our lives in danger , much like this stupid illegal immigration and illegal semi drivers ?

    1. As a pilot yourself EOTS, you can understand the fundamentals and filter out all of the bullshit, which you have.

      Read backs to the controller is fundamental in this business, you dont do it, you dont have a job. Speaking of jobs, captains are making in the neighborhood of 200 grand a year easy, more with seniority. You bring up a damn good point, truck drivers make less than half that, and they do three times more work with five times more stress.

      Joo Bezos cant have that can he? You can see where I’m going with this. Commercial jets fly themselves many times all the way to the ground while on auto pilot. Pilots can laterally be on the toilet while the airplane flys itself from point A to point B , so the pilot basically is a professional passenger playing beach blanket bingo with the stewardess.

      Find a you tube channel that sponsor jet pilots flying while on auto pilot, they arent doing shit. Yeah, they’re highly trained yes, but hardly ever actually fly the airplane. Only when absolutley necessary.

      Joo Bezos wants to change how services are paid. Yeah your right, watch for an Amazon airline next.

      This controlled crash can now be used as a vehicle to change from manual to autopilot, saving billions. Out of our pockets, into the Kings pockets.

      1. copy that boss

        It’s getting flat out stupid out there

        Show me a commercial pilot that loads his own aircraft
        Show me a commercial pilot that is fully responsible for the airworthiness of his aircraft
        Show me a pilot in prison for killing anyone ( if he didn’t die in the crash himself)

        Show me a pilot that got a ticket …. for anything

        Show me a pilot that had to deal with a fcktard pig , while holding up his livelihood

        Shit man, show me a commercial pilot that actually hand flew the aircraft from point A-B

        Truck drivers should shove this shit they are getting right back up the tail pipe of congress and let them suck on rolling coal

        I’m about to sell my semi tractor and skateboards and let them KMA

        Bozos can take a flying leap
        His wife didn’t fck him bad enough in the divorce ( and I thought I’d never say that about how that bullshit is played )
        She probably knows how big a scum rat he is that’s why she bailed

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