Now governors are abusing executive orders to trample on the 2nd Amendment as well.
With strong resistance in Congress to gun control measures, Obama has taken to working outside his constitutional authority yet again.
But he, his pen and his phone, are not alone this time.
To bring teeth to his pending executive orders, President Obama is working to enlist the help of many of the state governors who he hopes will sign their own executive orders.
To that end, Gov. Dannel Malloy in Connecticut is taking the first plunge in this end run around that pesky Constitution and Bill of Rights. Of course, Connecticut, home to the Sandy Hook shootings, has already seen its gun rights eviscerated:
NBC Connecticut reports:
Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy plans to sign the first executive order in the nation to ban the sales of guns to people on federal government watch lists.
“We intend to prevent, by executive order through my powers as governor, those on government watch lists from obtaining a permit to purchase a firearm in Connecticut,” the Democratic governor said in a news conference Thursday.
Anyone who wishes to buy a gun in Connecticut must first apply for a permit from a public safety agency, then a thorough background check is conducted, Malloy said.
“The executive order would add an additional level of protection and require those who apply for a permit to be screened against government watch lists,” Malloy said during the news conference.
It’s not clear how many people this executive order would cover, but the governor said he has reason to believe people living in the state are on watch lists and the state should be in a position to deny permits to those individuals.
The state created some of the strictest gun laws in the country after 20 students and six educators were killed in a 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. Those laws banned assault weapons in Connecticut.
Gov. Malloy also discussed his intent to take away legally-purchased guns from owners on the watch list, as well, though others in Connecticut are already questioning his legal authority to do enact any of these policies. (See video here)
As SHTF explained the other day, the federal No Fly terror watch list is one of the worst instruments that could possibly be used. Firstly, it is has never stopped a terrorist from acting, though some may have been indentified ahead of time.
But, more importantly, the No Fly watch list has put thousands of people on its list for reasons of mere suspicion alone – it is not based upon past crimes or direct accusations based on evidence. The practices for being added to the list are secretive, and there is virtually no way of appealing, or being taken off the list. That is despite the fact that many of the people on the no fly list – who have been barred from getting on a plane and traveling – are on the list simply because they share a last name with a suspect, or a similar name.
In short, it is a civil rights disaster that is fewer degrees away from Nazi Germany than it is from Kevin Bacon. Using this No Fly list to bar people from buying a gun – a constitutionally protected right – is compounding that problem and denying due process to Americans.
Gov. Malloy has said that those who are denied will be able to appeal the decision, but nevertheless, it seems like something very close to this:
(cue at :36 seconds)
I’ve heard that people on the no-fly list are not arrested when they show up at the airport to fly, they simply deny them to board the plane, no arrests, rebuke, period. So if these no-fly list people are so dangerous, why then is there no arrest etc.?
Are they simply using this boogie man word “No-fly list” to get people to bite, etc..
They are all morons, full of hot air, just ready to be deflated.
“So if these no-fly list people are so dangerous, why then is there no arrest etc.?”
No crime, no arrest, Katie. The only ones these “no-fly list people” are dangerous to is the so-called ‘government’.
It’s safe to assume you’re on it… being a Trencher.
#1 I understand “no crime, no arrest.”
“The only ones these “no-fly list people” are dangerous to is the so-called ‘government’.”
I understand this also. My point is, they keep throwing this no-fly list term about trying to scare people.
I’ve heard babies and young children are on this thing, c’mon really.
Just like everything the stupid ‘govt.’ does they screw up royally.
Not really sure of my point, just that this won’t fly, no pun intended.
“My point is, they keep throwing this no-fly list term about trying to scare people.”
It will only scare the people who are ‘programmed’ well enough into believing that anyone on it should be considered DANGEROUS, Katie. This helps the “see something, say something” program to a certain degree.
The ONLY thing that ‘list’ is designed to do is target true patriots (as I’m sure you already know). It is by far THE most blatant violation of the 2nd we’ll ever see… IF Obummer makes good on his threat to use it to ‘confiscate’ our guns.
I think, Katie, that the “no fly list” and the unconstitutional “executive orders” are being employed to get Americans used to the idea of the government being able to put them on one list or another without any form of due process, and get them used to executives (governors or presidents) having supreme authority.
Neither action will have any significant effect on gun ownership, so it may be only being done for its conditioning effect on the population. It’s like a physical form of propaganda, and as soon as Americans accept this, they’ll move onto the next step. (what many have called the boiling frog effect)
And once this stupid “no fly” list is enacted this way (to prevent gun purchases) without any resistance from Americans, you can bet the list will double in length, and be used to deny people other rights or privileges.
And Americans won’t resist this, because it’s just one in a hundred things happening that require resistance from Americans, and this leaves all Patriots overwhelmed, and waiting for the revolution that they see is necessary, and that they see as the only solution.
The revolution can be postponed indefinitely by simply keeping everyone fed, and entertained (distracted). They may be waiting for our generation to be too old to fight, because the next generation is too young to remember freedom. They don’t know what’s been stolen from us, because they were raised under this tyranny.
You’ve pretty much nailed it. So much crap they got going on, hard to stay on top of it all, but this is BIG.
It’s more likely that none of us are on the list. I flew often this year and the ADL (Abe Foxmen) quoted me in his “Domestic terrorists/threat” report to the state department back in 2008/09, whenever it was. It seems that you have to do quite a bit to be a thorn in their side.
You can scan that report for “Brewer”.
“It’s more likely that none of us are on the list.”
If true, only to avoid redundancy.
So, sworn to defend the Constitution, eh? My left one.
Law by fiat is no law at all, even if enforced with pr#@ks with guns and badges.
“It will only scare the people who are ‘programmed’ well enough into believing that anyone on it should be considered DANGEROUS, Katie. This helps the “see something, say something” program to a certain degree.”
Yeah, this sums it up. I tend to forget that some, most, how ever many people out there that can’t put 2+2 together will fall for this stuff.
Their buffoonery is so blatant it’s hard to imagine anyone would fall for anything said by any single one of these corporate criminals.
Once again, our Congress will do nothing about this out of control maniac in the White House. What to hell are they good for except lining their own pockets?
We are all on the no fly list. The list has nothing to do with flying in an airplane. Did the supposed San Bernadido couple that were first from Saudi Arabia and then Pakistan have any problems flying or getting implements. Do the cia sponsored cartels have any problems going to and fro while eric holder was running implements? Or hillary and the benghazi isis created bloodbath. The “man”and his special ops their was running implement to turkey and syria.
Its getting deep folks and even the idiots are waking up.
This is nothing more than a “long” period of frog in the pot syndrome.
Make no mistake, we are at a “very” critical point.
The gubberment handlers are throwing everything they can for total control.
When the sheeple wake up, they have lost and they know it.
I know an eighty seven year old woman who was been a life long democrat and watches cnn and the weather channel all day tell me the country has gone to shyt.