Police legally seizing guns under ‘red flag’ laws

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Alexander Mckenzie, a 31-year-old Army veteran who, according to court documents, is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder, recently had his gun confiscated by the Seattle Police Department even though he had committed no crime.

It’s one of 27 guns seized legally by the Seattle Police Department from 16 individuals since last July under Washington State’s new Extreme Risk Protection Order law. 

McKenzie had been acting strange, glaring at customers of a pizza restaurant while carrying his handgun. He now agrees with the firearm seizure.

“I’m grateful that the police got the gun away from me,” McKenzie told Fox News.

Washington is one of six states with high risk or red flag laws. But in the wake of the Parkland school shooting, the Brady Campaign says at least 30 states are considering them.

“I think we’re seeing a building consensus in blue states and red states that this is a good way to balance public safety against people’s Second Amendment rights,” said Jaron Lindbaum of Washington Ceasefire.

A judge determines if the person is a danger to himself or others. If the order is issued, the guns can be seized immediately, but the gun owner gets to make his or her case in court within two weeks.

Guns are removed for one year, but there is due process. Only family, roommates and police can petition the court for the civil order. The burden of proof is on the petitioner. A judge determines if the person is a danger to himself or others. If the order is issued, the guns can be seized immediately, but the gun owner gets to make his or her case in court within two weeks.

Even gun rights advocates, who are afraid of government abuse, say it appears to be working.

“We’ve seen the downside of people who are distraught or crazy taking out their problems on the general public,” said Dave Workman of the Bellevue, Wash.-based Second Amendment Foundation. “We don’t want that to happen here.”

One petition to seize guns was turned down by a King County, Wash., judge. All others have been granted, including the taking of an AR-15 rifle. According to the pastors of the Cross and Crown Church in Seattle, a former member threatened to kill them and wished the recent church massacre in Sutherland Springs, Texas had happened there.

Law enforcement is convinced the law is saving lives.

“I have no doubt,” said King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg, “it is the kind of tool we can use to prevent greater tragedies.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/02/police-legally-seizing-guns-under-red-flag-laws.html

Jim

9 thoughts on “Police legally seizing guns under ‘red flag’ laws

  1. “I’m grateful that the police got the gun away from me,” McKenzie told Fox News.”

    WHAT???

    Did they run him through the brainwashing machine as well?????

    “Law enforcement is convinced the law is saving lives.”

    ‘Law enforcement’ isn’t in the BUSINESS of saving lives (in fact, they take FAR more than they EVER save), so we all know THAT’S a crock of sh#t.

    They’re testing the waters – FL & WA. They need to gauge public opinion… the less outrage there is, the more they’ll up the ante.

    The gloves are finally coming off.

  2. You can get post traumatic stress disorder walking across the street, this law is bullshit.

    Hide guns and ammo in stash locations around your operating area, don’t have them all in one place. Don’t be a fool..

  3. Don’t talk to cops
    Check(old lesson)
    Don’t talk to your doctor either
    Double check
    Don’t ever go to a shrink..check
    STFU and keep reloading
    Buy more guns .. check
    Put them where only you know about … check
    Buy person to person

    Just keep forcing this underground dopes
    Before you know it , more paperless guns
    My glass is half full as they keep tipping their hand

    When this shit goes hot
    Life will be a nightmare for those who played along with the games

    1. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

  4. Sorry
    But the title says they are doing this “legally”
    There’s nothing legal about this law
    It flies in the face of the 2nd A
    This “law” needs to be challenged, now!

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